Re: Poke

2015-11-02 Thread John 

Don't forget The Strawbs.

On 11/1/2015 4:23 PM, knarf wrote:

The Cranberries.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:56:40 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:

Now I know why you never sleep.

Alan C

-Original Message-
From: knarf
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Poke

Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their
favourite group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The
Lemonheads
and then Bananarama.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:

They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
"melon"choly.

Alan C

-Original Message-
From: knarf
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Poke

Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
Once
in a while I'll buy organic.

The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit
creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really

have

the
vocabulary to properly describe it.

Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John <sesso...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?

I

mean other than the cost?

On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost

made

a

mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular

ones.

Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

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Re: Poke

2015-11-01 Thread knarf 
The Cranberries.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:56:40 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
>Now I know why you never sleep.
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:49 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Poke
>
>Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their 
>favourite group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The
>Lemonheads 
>and then Bananarama.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
>>They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
>>"melon"choly.
>>
>>Alan C
>>
>>-Original Message- 
>>From: knarf
>>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>>
>>Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
>>Once
>>in a while I'll buy organic.
>>
>>The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit
>>creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really
>have
>>the
>>vocabulary to properly describe it.
>>
>>Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>frank
>>
>>On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John <sesso...@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>>Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?
>>I
>>>mean other than the cost?
>>>
>>>On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>> We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost
>made
>>>a
>>>> mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular
>ones.
>>>> Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Matyola
>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: Poke

2015-10-31 Thread knarf 
Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their favourite 
group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The Lemonheads and then 
Bananarama. 

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
>"melon"choly.
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>
>Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
>Once 
>in a while I'll buy organic.
>
>The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit 
>creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have
>the 
>vocabulary to properly describe it.
>
>Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John 
>wrote:
>>Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?
>I
>>mean other than the cost?
>>
>>On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made
>>a
>>> mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
>>> Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>

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Re: Poke

2015-10-31 Thread Alan C 

Now I know why you never sleep.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Poke

Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their 
favourite group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The Lemonheads 
and then Bananarama.


Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:

They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
"melon"choly.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Poke

Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
Once
in a while I'll buy organic.

The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit
creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have
the
vocabulary to properly describe it.

Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John <sesso...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?

I

mean other than the cost?

On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made

a

mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

Dan Matyola
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Re: Poke

2015-10-31 Thread knarf 
They also like the song stylings of Fiona Apple.

Cheers,

frank 

On October 31, 2015 11:56:40 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
>Now I know why you never sleep.
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:49 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Poke
>
>Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their 
>favourite group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The
>Lemonheads 
>and then Bananarama.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
>>They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
>>"melon"choly.
>>
>>Alan C
>>
>>-Original Message- 
>>From: knarf
>>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>>
>>Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
>>Once
>>in a while I'll buy organic.
>>
>>The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit
>>creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really
>have
>>the
>>vocabulary to properly describe it.
>>
>>Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>frank
>>
>>On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John <sesso...@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>>Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?
>>I
>>>mean other than the cost?
>>>
>>>On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>> We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost
>made
>>>a
>>>> mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular
>ones.
>>>> Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Matyola
>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: Poke

2015-10-31 Thread Alan C 

They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit "melon"choly.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Poke

Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones. Once 
in a while I'll buy organic.


The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit 
creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have the 
vocabulary to properly describe it.


Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John  wrote:

Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones? I
mean other than the cost?

On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made

a

mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

Dan Matyola
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Re: Poke

2015-10-31 Thread knarf 
Very interesting and informative read. Doesn't change my perspective though. 
Even if it's true that plants are sentient, how is that a justification to eat 
animals?


Whatever plants sense, I'm convinced that they don't feel pain, at least not in 
the same way animals do. 

And the intelligence they display seeks to be more like adaptation by evolution 
than anything else. 

One of the things plants have evolved to do is make animals eat them. They have 
made their seed pods sweet, juicy and delicious so we eat their seeds and 
spread them about in our auto-fertilizer packs (ie: poop). Pretty smart, eh? 
But more "evolutionary smart" than anything else.

There are actually "fruitarians" who only eat (you guessed it) the fruit of 
plants. I can see their point...

Cheers,

frank



On October 31, 2015 12:20:31 AM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>Perhaps this will change your perspective?
>
>http://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2015/aug/04/plants-intelligent-sentient-book-brilliant-green-internet
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:14 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>
>According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:
>
>"Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of
>starch 
>(carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats,
>barley, 
>sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain
>and 
>fiber milling processes.  These are referred to as the concentrate
>portion 
>of the ration.
>
>Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be
>used. It 
>can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage
>is 
>the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with
>higher 
>moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen)
>where 
>fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls."
>
>That's for beef cattle, anyway.
>
>And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" 
> wrote:
>
>>Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
>>nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
>>lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
>>grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
>>only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
>>one.

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Re: Poke

2015-10-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:45 PM, knarf  wrote:
> There are actually "fruitarians" who only eat (you guessed it) the fruit of 
> plants. I can see their point...

Steve Jobs apparently was a fruitarian, at least for a while.

I read that Ashton Kutcher tried the diet while preparing for his move
role as jobs.

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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread Alan C 

"Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because
the butter at least has some calcium in it."

Saturated fats too!

Alan C

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On 10/30/2015 1:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote:

That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I
can barely type, I'm laughing so hard.

As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that
cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and
lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits.

No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead
animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and
loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by
eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest).

So mostly we're not in competetion for food.

But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

frank

On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill 
wrote:


Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals.
OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young.


Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one.


My understanding was the corn was just fine until European farmers got
their hands on the stuff and removed all of it's nutritional value in
favor of volume growth.
Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because
the butter at least has some calcium in it.


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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread Alan C 
Come on, come on, maize is actually very nutritious. The staple diet of 
Africa. We even import yours in times drought like now. An how would a 
boerseuntjie survive without pap en wors?


Alan C

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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:32 AM
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On 10/30/2015 7:33 PM, Bill wrote:

On 10/30/2015 1:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote:

That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I
can barely type, I'm laughing so hard.

As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that
cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and
lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits.

No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead
animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and
loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by
eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest).

So mostly we're not in competetion for food.

But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

frank

On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill 
wrote:


Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals.
OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young.


Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one.

My understanding was the corn was just fine until European farmers got 
their hands on the stuff and removed all of it's nutritional value in 
favor of volume growth.
Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because the 
butter at least has some calcium in it.




No even the native Maize is poor nutrition, in comparison to just about
every other grass crop.  Living in New England we actually have a few
small farmers growing legacy corn and it doesn't have a lot more
vitamins and protein than the yellow stuff you buy in the supermarket.
Just a lot less sugar.

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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread Alan C 

Perhaps this will change your perspective?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2015/aug/04/plants-intelligent-sentient-book-brilliant-green-internet

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:14 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
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According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:

"Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of starch 
(carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats, barley, 
sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain and 
fiber milling processes.  These are referred to as the concentrate portion 
of the ration.


Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It 
can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is 
the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher 
moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where 
fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls."


That's for beef cattle, anyway.

And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" 
 wrote:



Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
one.


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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread P.J. Alling 
Carnivorous plants usually live in really nutrient low environments 
which is why they make their own fertilizer...


On 10/30/2015 2:23 PM, knarf wrote:

In terms of my personal menu, I don't eat carnivorous plants. Therefore I need 
not consider the ethics of consuming them.

Good question, though.

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 1:10:26 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:

Where do carnivorous plants fit in?

Alan C

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"So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
fair game for us..."

I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens
the
door to eating lots of different animals.

Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are
vegetarian.

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"
 wrote:

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:

When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it

must be a sentient being since it's an animal.

I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows?

Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch,
light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body
of sea urchins might function as a compound eye.

Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers
and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle
stars, and crinoids.  So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins).

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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I just said they were "fair game."

I didn't say I would eat anything that eats other animal, nor did I
say I would only each animals that eat other animals.

I do, however, tend to be an omnivore .  .  .  .
Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Where do carnivorous plants fit in?
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: knarf
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>
> "So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
> fair game for us..."
>
> I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens the
> door to eating lots of different animals.
>
> Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are vegetarian.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it
>>
>> must be a sentient being since it's an animal.
>>
>> I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows?
>>
>> Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch,
>> light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body
>> of sea urchins might function as a compound eye.
>>
>> Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers
>> and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle
>> stars, and crinoids.  So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
>> fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins).
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread Alan C 

Where do carnivorous plants fit in?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO: Poke

"So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
fair game for us..."

I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens the 
door to eating lots of different animals.


Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are vegetarian.

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
 wrote:

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:

When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it

must be a sentient being since it's an animal.

I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows?

Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch,
light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body
of sea urchins might function as a compound eye.

Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers
and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle
stars, and crinoids.  So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins).

Dan Matyola
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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread knarf 
In terms of my personal menu, I don't eat carnivorous plants. Therefore I need 
not consider the ethics of consuming them.

Good question, though. 

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 1:10:26 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>Where do carnivorous plants fit in?
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>
>"So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
>fair game for us..."
>
>I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens
>the 
>door to eating lots of different animals.
>
>Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are
>vegetarian.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> wrote:
>>On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist
>> wrote:
>>> When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it
>>must be a sentient being since it's an animal.
>>
>>I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows?
>>
>>Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch,
>>light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body
>>of sea urchins might function as a compound eye.
>>
>>Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers
>>and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle
>>stars, and crinoids.  So, they eat other animal life, and thus are
>>fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins).
>>
>>Dan Matyola
>>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Poke

2015-10-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:23 PM, knarf  wrote:
> I don't eat carnivorous plants.

I certainly wouldn't eat Audrey II.  I wouldn't get close to her, for
fear she would eat me!

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