Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-26 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 12:48:48 GMT
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> Subject: Re: Processing very old color movie film?
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> >> From: John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >> The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the 
> >> Swiss lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing.
> >
> >I didn't see that announcement.  
> 
> It was brought up on the list last year, IIRC.
> 
> >Looks like it is time to finish off  the stock.
> 
> Do you mean Kodachrome film stock or Kodak corporate stock?
> ;-)

_That_ would be a difficult question to answer, were I in the postion of 
needing to do so


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-26 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote:

>> From: John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the 
>> Swiss lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing.
>
>I didn't see that announcement.  

It was brought up on the list last year, IIRC.

>Looks like it is time to finish off  the stock.

Do you mean Kodachrome film stock or Kodak corporate stock?
;-)




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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-26 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/09/26 Wed AM 03:02:57 GMT
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> 
> From: mike wilson
> 
> > If it is Kodachrome, there is a Swiss lab still processing it.  You
> > would only pay the standard charge.  Not sure if it deals with the
> > USA but there are ways round that
> 
> 
> The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the Swiss 
> lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing.
> 

I didn't see that announcement.  Looks like it is time to finish off the stock.


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson

> If it is Kodachrome, there is a Swiss lab still processing it.  You
> would only pay the standard charge.  Not sure if it deals with the
> USA but there are ways round that


The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the Swiss 
lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing.

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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-25 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2007/09/24 Mon PM 07:14:28 GMT
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Processing very old color movie film?
> 
> My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> certain 
> it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from the 
> hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
> 
> I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> rarely 
> produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to try 
> with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see if 
> anything came out.
> 
> Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> this 
> film?  Here's what I know about it:
> 
>  - It's nearly 29 years old.
>  - It is most likely color.
>  - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
> 
> I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has a 
> couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details.  
> The 
> film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking any 
> settings on the camera itself.
> 
> Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.
> 
> John Celio

This place advertises that they process old cine film.
http://www.processc22.co.uk/

There is also this place:
http://rockymountainfilm.com/


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-25 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2007/09/24 Mon PM 07:24:41 GMT
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> 
> The film is probably in a cartridge, so once it's rewound and removed from 
> the camera, you should be able to determine what kind of film it is. Quite a 
> few  labs still process Ektachrome super 8 and 8mm film. Google turns up a 
> bunch. Only one of those I found can process Kodachrome movie film, but if 
> your film is from the seventies, chances are it's ektachrome.
> Paul

If it is Kodachrome, there is a Swiss lab still processing it.  You would only 
pay the standard charge.  Not sure if it deals with the USA but there are ways 
round that

>  -- Original message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> > certain 
> > it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from 
> > the 
> > hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
> > 
> > I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> > rarely 
> > produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to 
> > try 
> > with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see 
> > if 
> > anything came out.
> > 
> > Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> > this 
> > film?  Here's what I know about it:
> > 
> >  - It's nearly 29 years old.
> >  - It is most likely color.
> >  - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
> > 
> > I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has a 
> > couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details.  
> > The 
> > film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking any 
> > settings on the camera itself.
> > 
> > Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.
> > 
> > John Celio
> > 
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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread John Celio
Thanks for all the info, everyone!

I think I'll call the places mentioned and see what they recommend as far as 
getting the film to them without damaging it.  I'll be sure to report back 
on any results!

Thanks again,
John

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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I remember processing some E4 in my basement. (I had a hell of a time  
trying to keep the temperature accurate.) Anyway, it must have been  
1976 or '77.
Paul
On Sep 24, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> Back in 78 I think that E4 film was still available, maybe even
>> prevalent. I don't remember exactly when E6 process was introduced,
>> though it was around that period.
>
> Now you're making me feel old!
> (I think E6 took over around 1976)
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RE: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread Bill Owens

Now you're making me feel old!
(I think E6 took over around 1976)

If it makes you feel younger, I have my father's Bolex 8mm windup, made
before cameras came with batteries.  Many of the movies were on B&W because
in the late 50's and early 60's there weren't any color films fast enough to
overcome high school available gloom stadiums.


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Mark Roberts wrote:
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>   
>> Back in 78 I think that E4 film was still available, maybe even 
>> prevalent. I don't remember exactly when E6 process was introduced, 
>> though it was around that period.
>> 
>
> Now you're making me feel old!
> (I think E6 took over around 1976)
>
>
>
>   
I remember processing E-4 in a primarily B*W darkroom in '76. It wasn't 
something I did everyday...

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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:

>Back in 78 I think that E4 film was still available, maybe even 
>prevalent. I don't remember exactly when E6 process was introduced, 
>though it was around that period.

Now you're making me feel old!
(I think E6 took over around 1976)



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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread Paul Sorenson
John -

Unless you are *very* sure that the film has run all the way to the end, 
don't open the camera except in a darkroom or changing bag.  Super 8 
will be in a cartridge - standard 8mm is really "double 8" - 16mm film 
w/8mm sprocket holes on a 25 ft reel.  You exposed one side of it, then 
flipped it over to expose the other side.  When processed, the lab slit 
it down the middle and spliced it to make one 8mm x 50 ft roll.  If it's 
double 8, unless it's completely on one of the in-camera reels, you run 
the risk of losing several feet if you open it in the light.  Once it's 
completely on one reel it's OK to remove in subdued light.

-p

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> certain 
> it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from the 
> hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
> 
> I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> rarely 
> produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to try 
> with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see if 
> anything came out.
> 
> Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> this 
> film?  Here's what I know about it:
> 
>  - It's nearly 29 years old.
>  - It is most likely color.
>  - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
> 
> I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has a 
> couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details.  
> The 
> film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking any 
> settings on the camera itself.
> 
> Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.
> 
> John Celio
> 


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Back in 78 I think that E4 film was still available, maybe even 
prevalent. I don't remember exactly when E6 process was introduced, 
though it was around that period.

Mark Roberts wrote:
> If it's from 1978 it's certainly color film: B&W movie film was quite 
> hard to get at the time - I know because I shot some B&W Super-8 for a 
> student film back then! Had to buy Fuji B&W movie film on special order 
> and send it to Syracuse for processing.
>
> The sixty-four thousand dollar question is: E6 or Kodachrome? 
> Kodachrome movie film was still fairly common back then. Not nearly as 
> common as E6, but still around. If it's Kodachrome you're pretty much 
> SOL.
>
> If it's Super-8 film, it's in a cartridge that will be labeled, so 
> you'll know the film type as soon as you take it out of the camera. If 
> it's *really* old plain vanilla 8mm movie film, it's on a spool and I 
> don't think there was any identification on it at all (though I'm far 
> from certain).
>
>
>
>
>   


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread pnstenquist
This outfit process Kodachrome Super 8 movie film:
http://www.k14movies.com/
 -- Original message --
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If it's from 1978 it's certainly color film: B&W movie film was quite 
> hard to get at the time - I know because I shot some B&W Super-8 for a 
> student film back then! Had to buy Fuji B&W movie film on special order 
> and send it to Syracuse for processing.
> 
> The sixty-four thousand dollar question is: E6 or Kodachrome? 
> Kodachrome movie film was still fairly common back then. Not nearly as 
> common as E6, but still around. If it's Kodachrome you're pretty much 
> SOL.
> 
> If it's Super-8 film, it's in a cartridge that will be labeled, so 
> you'll know the film type as soon as you take it out of the camera. If 
> it's *really* old plain vanilla 8mm movie film, it's on a spool and I 
> don't think there was any identification on it at all (though I'm far 
> from certain).
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I've seen these guys bandied about as one of the best places to find old 
film processing.

http://rockymountainfilm.com/

I don't know weather they can do what is most likely K14 or E4, (or 
maybe even older process), films but you can e-mail them for information.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> certain 
> it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from the 
> hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
>
> I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> rarely 
> produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to try 
> with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see if 
> anything came out.
>
> Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> this 
> film?  Here's what I know about it:
>
>  - It's nearly 29 years old.
>  - It is most likely color.
>  - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
>
> I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has a 
> couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details.  
> The 
> film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking any 
> settings on the camera itself.
>
> Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.
>
> John Celio
>
>   


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
If it's from 1978 it's certainly color film: B&W movie film was quite 
hard to get at the time - I know because I shot some B&W Super-8 for a 
student film back then! Had to buy Fuji B&W movie film on special order 
and send it to Syracuse for processing.

The sixty-four thousand dollar question is: E6 or Kodachrome? 
Kodachrome movie film was still fairly common back then. Not nearly as 
common as E6, but still around. If it's Kodachrome you're pretty much 
SOL.

If it's Super-8 film, it's in a cartridge that will be labeled, so 
you'll know the film type as soon as you take it out of the camera. If 
it's *really* old plain vanilla 8mm movie film, it's on a spool and I 
don't think there was any identification on it at all (though I'm far 
from certain).




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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread pnstenquist
The film is probably in a cartridge, so once it's rewound and removed from the 
camera, you should be able to determine what kind of film it is. Quite a few  
labs still process Ektachrome super 8 and 8mm film. Google turns up a bunch. 
Only one of those I found can process Kodachrome movie film, but if your film 
is from the seventies, chances are it's ektachrome.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> certain 
> it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from the 
> hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
> 
> I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> rarely 
> produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to try 
> with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see if 
> anything came out.
> 
> Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> this 
> film?  Here's what I know about it:
> 
>  - It's nearly 29 years old.
>  - It is most likely color.
>  - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
> 
> I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has a 
> couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details.  
> The 
> film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking any 
> settings on the camera itself.
> 
> Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.
> 
> John Celio
> 
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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Processing very old color movie film?


> My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> certain
> it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from 
> the
> hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
>
> I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> rarely
> produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to 
> try
> with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see 
> if
> anything came out.
>
> Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> this
> film?  Here's what I know about it:
>
> - It's nearly 29 years old.
> - It is most likely color.
> - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
>
> I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has 
> a
> couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details. 
> The
> film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking 
> any
> settings on the camera itself.
>
> Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.

Try:
http://rockymountainfilm.com/

William Robb 


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Re: Processing very old color movie film?

2007-09-24 Thread Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My dad found an old movie camera recently, and he is almost completely 
> certain 
> it contains unprocessed color movie film of my mom bringing me home from the 
> hospital shortly after I was born in 1978.
> 
> I know from experience at the lab I used to work at, that old color film 
> rarely 
> produces worthwhile results when processed, but my parents really want to try 
> with this stuff.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be neat to see if 
> anything came out.
> 
> Does anyone know of any companies in the US that might be able to process 
> this 
> film?  Here's what I know about it:
> 
>  - It's nearly 29 years old.
>  - It is most likely color.
>  - It's been stored in dark, cool places most of it's life.
> 
> I don't know the brand, format (best guess is Kodak 8mm, since my dad has a 
> couple reels of that stuff in other boxes) or any other technical details.  
> The 
> film is still in the camera, so I may be able to learn more by checking any 
> settings on the camera itself.
> 
> Any ideas or leads would be much appreciated.
> 
> John Celio
> 
www.cinelab.com does Super8 processing.  Their prices are reasonable, 
comparatively speaking.

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