Re: Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
My advice to my dog loving lady friend: I ended up advicing her to buy a Pentax K-r and a DA* 50-135mm SDM lens. This is available for 1500 Euros in Germany. This combo cost the same as a Canon 7D, body only. According to dpreview a Pentax K-r with an SDM lens is a decent choise for sports and wildlife photography on a budget. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 21:14 Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Thanks a lot , Matthew. Makes sence. Your last remark made me laugh out loud. If you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to her? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 19:20 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on average has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots their first time taking photos of dogs in action. My wife competes in dog agility (in the role of the human), and it's not too hard to get good shots of that, at least outdoors: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/ The technique is simply to prefocus on the jump, and then it's just a matter of timing. Keeping both eyes open helps. You can pick it up quickly, and any current DSLR with a 200 or 300mm kit lens should do fine. Depends on how close you can get, and how big or small the dogs are. That picture's from my K10D with Tamron 70-300 at 220mm; the dog's small (8 lb) but we were in our own yard and I could get close. But dogs running around in free play is a different matter. Forget Larry's first time, I still get few good shots after years of trying. The K10D autofocus just won't keep up with the dogs, at least not the fast sort that my wife favors. I know the newer models are significantly better, but whether they are good enough to lock on to a running dog, I cannot say. I recommend cats. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
Thanks Larry. All true. But non photographers often use compact cameras with a lot of shutter lag. The picture aren't taken before the subject is long gone. She obviously wants instant action. To me that means SLR/DSLR. But some megazooms might do the trick too? I geuss a K-r would be a nice choise too. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 18:43 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jens wrote: Hi List Hopefully some of you will know what to buy. A friend of mine wants to photograph dogs in action. She needs a camera, that will react quickly to presing the release button :-) She's not into photography as such, but needs a camera that can shoot moving dogs at a distance. Shoe doesn't min buying a DSLR. I guess maybe a 50-200mm lens would do the trick. Low noice would be perfect due to the need for fast shutter speeds. Which body and which lens should she boy? (I may be a Pentax, but that's not a must. Shutter lag tends to be a function of autofocus speed. Shutter lag can be pretty much eliminated if she can prefocus, hit the AF button and then click the shutter. Or, use the AF-C mode. If autofocus is an issue, and she get's Pentax she'd definitely want either a K-r or K-5. What is her budget? How often does she need to do these photos? Could you go and try a few and see which of your gear works, and get a better idea of what she needs? A lot of it is just going to boil down to skill, and practice. Throwing money at the issue can make up for some, but not all, lack of skill. Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on average has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots their first time taking photos of dogs in action. She may also want to get something along the lines of a monopod or a Bushhawk. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
Thanks a lot , Matthew. Makes sence. Your last remark made me laugh out loud. If you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to her? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 19:20 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on average has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots their first time taking photos of dogs in action. My wife competes in dog agility (in the role of the human), and it's not too hard to get good shots of that, at least outdoors: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/ The technique is simply to prefocus on the jump, and then it's just a matter of timing. Keeping both eyes open helps. You can pick it up quickly, and any current DSLR with a 200 or 300mm kit lens should do fine. Depends on how close you can get, and how big or small the dogs are. That picture's from my K10D with Tamron 70-300 at 220mm; the dog's small (8 lb) but we were in our own yard and I could get close. But dogs running around in free play is a different matter. Forget Larry's first time, I still get few good shots after years of trying. The K10D autofocus just won't keep up with the dogs, at least not the fast sort that my wife favors. I know the newer models are significantly better, but whether they are good enough to lock on to a running dog, I cannot say. I recommend cats. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: If you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to her? Certainly! We are a publicly archived list, anyway, after all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
If you know how to prefocus and know the flow of the events, you can do fine with a PS. Megazooms or superzooms are usually PS with bigger lenses. It's all about knowing how to use your gear. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Thanks Larry. All true. But non photographers often use compact cameras with a lot of shutter lag. The picture aren't taken before the subject is long gone. She obviously wants instant action. To me that means SLR/DSLR. But some megazooms might do the trick too? I geuss a K-r would be a nice choise too. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 18:43 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jens wrote: Hi List Hopefully some of you will know what to buy. A friend of mine wants to photograph dogs in action. She needs a camera, that will react quickly to presing the release button :-) She's not into photography as such, but needs a camera that can shoot moving dogs at a distance. Shoe doesn't min buying a DSLR. I guess maybe a 50-200mm lens would do the trick. Low noice would be perfect due to the need for fast shutter speeds. Which body and which lens should she boy? (I may be a Pentax, but that's not a must. Shutter lag tends to be a function of autofocus speed. Shutter lag can be pretty much eliminated if she can prefocus, hit the AF button and then click the shutter. Or, use the AF-C mode. If autofocus is an issue, and she get's Pentax she'd definitely want either a K-r or K-5. What is her budget? How often does she need to do these photos? Could you go and try a few and see which of your gear works, and get a better idea of what she needs? A lot of it is just going to boil down to skill, and practice. Throwing money at the issue can make up for some, but not all, lack of skill. Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on average has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots their first time taking photos of dogs in action. She may also want to get something along the lines of a monopod or a Bushhawk. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
