Re: Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
My advice to my dog loving lady friend: I ended up advicing her to buy a Pentax K-r and a DA* 50-135mm SDM lens. This is available for 1500 Euros in Germany. This combo cost the same as a Canon 7D, body only. According to dpreview a Pentax K-r with an SDM lens is a decent choise for "sports and wildlife photography on a budget". Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 21:14 "Jens" wrote: > Thanks a lot , Matthew. > Makes sence. > Your last remark made me laugh out loud. > If you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to her? > > Regards > Jens > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Apr 7, 2011 19:20 "Matthew Hunt" wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Larry Colen > > wrote: > > > Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on > > > average > > > has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots > > > their > > > first time > > > taking photos of dogs in action. > > > > My wife competes in dog agility (in the role of the human), and > > it's > > not too hard to get good shots of that, at least outdoors: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/ > > > > The technique is simply to prefocus on the jump, and then it's just > > a > > matter of timing. Keeping both eyes open helps. You can pick it up > > quickly, and any current DSLR with a 200 or 300mm kit lens should > > do > > fine. Depends on how close you can get, and how big or small the > > dogs > > are. That picture's from my K10D with Tamron 70-300 at 220mm; the > > dog's small (8 lb) but we were in our own yard and I could get > > close. > > > > But dogs running around in "free play" is a different matter. > > Forget > > Larry's "first time," I still get few good shots after years of > > trying. The K10D autofocus just won't keep up with the dogs, at > > least > > not the fast sort that my wife favors. I know the newer models are > > significantly better, but whether they are good enough to lock on > > to > > a > > running dog, I cannot say. > > > > I recommend cats. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
If you know how to prefocus and know the flow of the events, you can do fine with a P&S. Megazooms or superzooms are usually P&S with bigger lenses. It's all about knowing how to use your gear. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jens wrote: > Thanks Larry. > All true. > But non photographers often use compact cameras with a lot of shutter lag. > The picture aren't taken before the subject is long gone. She obviously wants > instant action. To me that means SLR/DSLR. But some megazooms might do the > trick too? I geuss a K-r would be a nice choise too. > > Regards > Jens > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Apr 7, 2011 18:43 "Larry Colen" wrote: >> On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jens wrote: >> > Hi List >> > Hopefully some of you will know what to buy. >> > A friend of mine wants to photograph dogs in action. She needs a >> > camera, that will react quickly to presing the release button :-) >> > She's not into photography as such, but needs a camera that can >> > shoot moving dogs at a distance. Shoe doesn't min buying a DSLR. I >> > guess maybe a 50-200mm lens would do the trick. Low noice would be >> > perfect due to the need for fast shutter speeds. >> > >> > Which body and which lens should she boy? >> > (I may be a Pentax, but that's not a "must". >> >> Shutter lag tends to be a function of autofocus speed. Shutter lag >> can be pretty much eliminated if she can prefocus, hit the AF button >> and then click the shutter. Or, use the AF-C mode. >> >> If autofocus is an issue, and she get's Pentax she'd definitely want >> either a K-r or K-5. >> >> What is her budget? How often does she need to do these photos? Could >> you go and try a few and see which of your gear works, and get a >> better idea of what she needs? >> >> A lot of it is just going to boil down to skill, and practice. >> Throwing money at the issue can make up for some, but not all, lack of >> skill. Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on >> average has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots >> their first time taking photos of dogs in action. She may also want to >> get something along the lines of a monopod or a Bushhawk. >> > >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Jens wrote: > If you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to her? Certainly! We are a publicly archived list, anyway, after all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
Thanks a lot , Matthew. Makes sence. Your last remark made me laugh out loud. If you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to her? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 19:20 "Matthew Hunt" wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on > > average > > has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots their > > first time > > taking photos of dogs in action. > > My wife competes in dog agility (in the role of the human), and it's > not too hard to get good shots of that, at least outdoors: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/ > > The technique is simply to prefocus on the jump, and then it's just a > matter of timing. Keeping both eyes open helps. You can pick it up > quickly, and any current DSLR with a 200 or 300mm kit lens should do > fine. Depends on how close you can get, and how big or small the dogs > are. That picture's from my K10D with Tamron 70-300 at 220mm; the > dog's small (8 lb) but we were in our own yard and I could get close. > > But dogs running around in "free play" is a different matter. Forget > Larry's "first time," I still get few good shots after years of > trying. The K10D autofocus just won't keep up with the dogs, at least > not the fast sort that my wife favors. I know the newer models are > significantly better, but whether they are good enough to lock on to > a > running dog, I cannot say. > > I recommend cats. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Advice, Photgraphing dogs
Thanks Larry. All true. But non photographers often use compact cameras with a lot of shutter lag. The picture aren't taken before the subject is long gone. She obviously wants instant action. To me that means SLR/DSLR. But some megazooms might do the trick too? I geuss a K-r would be a nice choise too. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 7, 2011 18:43 "Larry Colen" wrote: > On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jens wrote: > > Hi List > > Hopefully some of you will know what to buy. > > A friend of mine wants to photograph dogs in action. She needs a > > camera, that will react quickly to presing the release button :-) > > She's not into photography as such, but needs a camera that can > > shoot moving dogs at a distance. Shoe doesn't min buying a DSLR. I > > guess maybe a 50-200mm lens would do the trick. Low noice would be > > perfect due to the need for fast shutter speeds. > > > > Which body and which lens should she boy? > > (I may be a Pentax, but that's not a "must". > > Shutter lag tends to be a function of autofocus speed. Shutter lag > can be pretty much eliminated if she can prefocus, hit the AF button > and then click the shutter. Or, use the AF-C mode. > > If autofocus is an issue, and she get's Pentax she'd definitely want > either a K-r or K-5. > > What is her budget? How often does she need to do these photos? Could > you go and try a few and see which of your gear works, and get a > better idea of what she needs? > > A lot of it is just going to boil down to skill, and practice. > Throwing money at the issue can make up for some, but not all, lack of > skill. Chances are that even most of the people on this list, which on > average has pretty high photographic skills, wouldn't get great shots > their first time taking photos of dogs in action. She may also want to > get something along the lines of a monopod or a Bushhawk. > > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
