Re: Long Lens Technique (was RE: TC--I am frowning!)

2001-07-14 Thread Rfsindg

Mark,
Interesting note, Thanks for the tip!
Regards,  Bob S.

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<< I just got an A*300F2.8 and A2X-L converter.  I have made some very sharp
 pictures and some not-so-sharp pictures with the same subject, same aperture
 (wide open), and same shutter speed, and same (solid) tripod.  The article
 at the link  below helped me out a lot
 
 http://www.naturephotographers.net/bh0201-1.html
 
 --Mark >>
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Long Lens Technique (was RE: TC--I am frowning!)

2001-07-13 Thread Mark Erickson


I just got an A*300F2.8 and A2X-L converter.  I have made some very sharp
pictures and some not-so-sharp pictures with the same subject, same aperture
(wide open), and same shutter speed, and same (solid) tripod.  The article
at the link  below helped me out a lot

http://www.naturephotographers.net/bh0201-1.html

--Mark


Kevin wrote-

I had a similar experience with my A*300/2.8 w/ the 2x-s.  I have since
verified that
I can take sharp pictures with this setup but I don't know what the problem
was.  I
was focussing near minimum distance, near wide open on Supra 400.  My PUG
entry this
month is one of the offending "softies".

My retest was also near minimum distance but with the lens set to f/8 and
the film was
supra 100.

Both the problem roll and the retest were take from a sturdy tripod.

Would the 2x-L do better?  Is this combo known to be soft when wide open?
Anyone know?

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Re: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-13 Thread John Mustarde

I just compared most of my teleconverters, so I could
choose which ones to use with my 300/2.8. 

The best two were fine wide open. They became excellent
one stop down from wide open.

The TC's were tested on a Tokina 300/2.8 AT-X manual
focus lens. Note: none of them except the Albinar
caused any vignetting or significant light fall-off in
the corners.

Here's my impressions:

Excellent:
Kiron 2x (MF)
Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter

Good:
Kenko 1.5x AF
Promaster (Kenko) 1.7x AF

Not so good unless stopped to f8:
Kiron 1.5x (MF)

Unacceptable (serious barrel distortion)
Albinar 2x Macro Focusing TC

Note: The excellent Pentax XL convertors won't fit this
lens. Darn.

I heard good things about the Kiron 2x manual focus
teleconvertor, so when I had a chance to get one
recently, I did. It is even better than I expected. It
was the best TC of the lot, slightly better than the
Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter. I believe this Kiron 2x TC
rivals any K-mount manual focus TC out there, except
for the Pentax XL series.

The Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor was good at f2.8, very good
at f4, and excellent at f5.6. 

After being impressed with the Kiron 2x TC, I had high
hopes for the Kiron 1.5x TC. But I was disappointed.
The 1.5x is probably matched well to some lens, but
it's sure not this Tokina 300/2.8.

The el-cheapo Promaster 1.7x AF TC ran a close third in
the tests. But it loses so much light that it hunts in
AF mode on my F* 300/4.5, so I stick with the Kenko
1.5x for an AF teleconvertor.

As for the original poster's problem with out-of-focus
images, I would think that any TC that gives
exceedingly soft images should be tested further to
isolate the problem. Even a bad TC should not cause
completely out-of-focus images unless there is some
alignment or other mechanical problem somewhere in the
lens/TC/camera system.


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RE: TC..I am frowning!

2001-07-13 Thread Tom Van Veen

I never had any problems with mine, but I would usually use it on subjects
within 15 feet. Could be that it's not so great at or near infinity.

tv

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I used the K T6-2X teleconvertor with my K 45-125 and M 200/4 with very good
results.  I had previously used a Vivitar TC with terrible results.  Perhaps
the T6-2X works better with longer lenses than 50mm.

Pat White

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Re: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-13 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT), Dave Weiss wrote:

>
>If anyone has any examples on pug or other web site that used a TC, could
>you email me and I could check it out?  

My "Wild Konik horses" in the March gallery used the A* 300mm + 1.4X-L converter.

I'll have plenty of TC shots in my USA-2001 tour gallery, available in a few weeks 
from now ...

Regards, JvW 
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Re: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-12 Thread Kenneth Waller

I use  the Pentax 1.4 X-S (on 70-210mm F & 300mm f4.5 FA) and 1.4X-L (on
600mm f4.0 FA) often and can't see any degradation at all.
Ken Waller
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Subject: RE: TC--I am frowning!


>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> > To: pentax-discuss
> > Subject: Re: TC--I am frowning!
> >
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:03:33 -0400
> > From: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: TC--I am frowning!
> >
> > Tom said:
> >
> > Even the best tele-converters do not work well until you
> > stop the lens down quite a bit. If you stop the lens down to
> > f8 (gives f16 with a 2x converter) or smaller they usually
> > work ok.
> > - --Tom
> >
> > I just can't believe something with a Pentax label on it
> > could not cut the mustard!  I thought the kt6-2x had a good reputation.
> >
> > If anyone has any examples on pug or other web site that used
> > a TC, could you email me and I could check it out?
>
> I've used the A 1.4-L with the A* 300/2.8.   Even wide open it's
> hard to spot any image degradation; stop the lens down to f4 and
> there's no way you can tell there's a teleconverter being used.
>
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RE: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-12 Thread John Francis

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: pentax-discuss
> Subject: Re: TC--I am frowning! 
> 
> 
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:03:33 -0400 
> From: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Subject: Re: TC--I am frowning! 
> 
> Tom said:
> 
> Even the best tele-converters do not work well until you 
> stop the lens down quite a bit. If you stop the lens down to 
> f8 (gives f16 with a 2x converter) or smaller they usually 
> work ok. 
> - --Tom 
> 
> I just can't believe something with a Pentax label on it 
> could not cut the mustard!  I thought the kt6-2x had a good reputation. 
> 
> If anyone has any examples on pug or other web site that used 
> a TC, could you email me and I could check it out?  

I've used the A 1.4-L with the A* 300/2.8.   Even wide open it's
hard to spot any image degradation; stop the lens down to f4 and
there's no way you can tell there's a teleconverter being used.

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Re: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-12 Thread Dave Weiss

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:03:33 -0400 
From: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: Re: TC--I am frowning! 

Tom said:

Even the best tele-converters do not work well until you 
stop the lens down quite a bit. If you stop the lens down to 
f8 (gives f16 with a 2x converter) or smaller they usually 
work ok. 
- --Tom 

I just can't believe something with a Pentax label on it could not cut the
mustard!  I thought the kt6-2x had a good reputation. 

If anyone has any examples on pug or other web site that used a TC, could
you email me and I could check it out?  


thanks


dave









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Re: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-11 Thread Alan Chan

Can't answer your question except I had less than satisfactory results when 
I try my A2X-S on A50/1.4 and A50/1.7 few years back. Then I bought a 
FA100/2.8 Macro and never look back.

regards,
Alan Chan

>Well, just got pics from my trip out west (Badlands, Custer, Estes, Arches,
>Garden of the Gods) and I am happy with the results EXCEPT
>
>it seems to me that when I was using the TC (kT6-2x) coupled with my 
>a50f1.4
>I got really blurry pictures, like worse than a good pocket camera.  No
>where are the pictures in focus.  What gives?  I thought this to be a good
>TC.  Could I be focusing incorrectly?  This was done on a super program.  I
>did notice that when using the TC, the infinity focus is not where it
>normally is, that is, using the focusing prism, you would end up say,
>focusing to 50 ft (per the lens markings) instead of at the infinity 
>symbol.
>Is this normal?  Does anybody have an example using a TC that I can compare
>mine to?
>
>I am especially unhappy because today I used said TC combo (before I got my
>vacation pictures back) to take some HIE pictures of tall ships parading
>around the breakwall in Cleveland that I hope are not all blurry.
>
>I will be testing my theory this weekend but would appreciate any
>info/opinions in the meantime.
>
>thanks
>
>dave

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Re: TC--I am frowning!

2001-07-11 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Even the best tele-converters do not work well until you
stop the lens down quite a bit. If you stop the lens down to
f8 (gives f16 with a 2x converter) or smaller they usually
work ok.
--Tom


Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
> 
> I had a similar experience with my A*300/2.8 w/ the 2x-s.  I have since verified 
>that I can take sharp pictures with this setup but I don't know what the problem was. 
> I was focussing near minimum distance, near wide open on Supra 400.  My PUG entry 
>this month is one of the offending "softies".
> 
> My retest was also near minimum distance but with the lens set to f/8 and the film 
>was supra 100.
> 
> Both the problem roll and the retest were take from a sturdy tripod.
> 
> Would the 2x-L do better?  Is this combo known to be soft when wide open?  Anyone 
>know?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:   Dave Weiss [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:48 PM
> To: pentax-discuss
> Subject:TC--I am frowning!
> 
> 
> Hi all;
> 
> Well, just got pics from my trip out west (Badlands, Custer, Estes, Arches,
> Garden of the Gods) and I am happy with the results EXCEPT
> 
> it seems to me that when I was using the TC (kT6-2x) coupled with my a50f1.4
> I got really blurry pictures, like worse than a good pocket camera.  No
> where are the pictures in focus.  What gives?  I thought this to be a good
> TC.  Could I be focusing incorrectly?  This was done on a super program.  I
> did notice that when using the TC, the infinity focus is not where it
> normally is, that is, using the focusing prism, you would end up say,
> focusing to 50 ft (per the lens markings) instead of at the infinity symbol.
> Is this normal?  Does anybody have an example using a TC that I can compare
> mine to?
> 
> I am especially unhappy because today I used said TC combo (before I got my
> vacation pictures back) to take some HIE pictures of tall ships parading
> around the breakwall in Cleveland that I hope are not all blurry.
> 
> I will be testing my theory this weekend but would appreciate any
> info/opinions in the meantime.
> 
> thanks
> 
> dave
> 
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