Re: USM Lens Availability
On 8/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Hey Dave, I'll bet when you were a kid, and saw your brother kissing his cousin behind the sofa at family gatherings, you would stand up and shout Jimmy is kissing Jolene AND THEY ARE USING TONGUES!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Now we know who the _real_ Masterspy is... From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 09:26:18 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability On 7/9/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. Oh right. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) D'oh! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
At 03:28 PM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 8/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Hey Dave, I'll bet when you were a kid, and saw your brother kissing his cousin behind the sofa at family gatherings, you would stand up and shout Jimmy is kissing Jolene AND THEY ARE USING TONGUES!!! vbg Look who's talking Mister Quotes Verbatim I'm an only child so I had to resort to blabbing about my imaginary friends behind their imaginary backs. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Op Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:05:41 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Either that, or he took the time to cook one up in convincing Pentax-ese :o) At 05:26 AM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 7/9/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. Oh right. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) D'oh! -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
When a company issues a PDF on their website with the name lens roadmap, it's hardly a rumor anymore. It is also a document of commitment, so questioning whether these lenses will be realised is quite futile, imho. What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. Jostein On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is it know? Everything I've read here seems to be rumor or speculation, although supported by reasonable arguments in its favor. Is there perhaps something I've missed that makes this comment a truth rather than rumor/speculation? I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8, but nothing that says Pentax will be _definitely_ be using it, although it seems like a good idea and the lens certainly interests me. What are your sources? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sources point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
It's the old one. According to the document properties, it was last changed on 22. March 2006. Jostein On 9/7/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. I just examined that page more closely and it does have a link to one of the roadmap PDF files. Looks fairly old - they hadn't even decided on the exact focal lengths of the 16-50 and 50-135. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. Jostein On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is there a chart showing future releases? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist This is a link to currently available lenses. There is also a chart showing future releases. http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 06:48:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability When a company issues a PDF on their website with the name lens roadmap, it's hardly a rumor anymore. It is also a document of commitment, so questioning whether these lenses will be realised is quite futile, imho. What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. Jostein ILFM? The newest technology is an anagram of film? 8-) On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is it know? Everything I've read here seems to be rumor or speculation, although supported by reasonable arguments in its favor. Is there perhaps something I've missed that makes this comment a truth rather than rumor/speculation? I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8, but nothing that says Pentax will be _definitely_ be using it, although it seems like a good idea and the lens certainly interests me. What are your sources? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sources point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 9/7/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. ILFM? The newest technology is an anagram of film? 8-) hehehe. That would be fun. Given the many opponents of TLA's I just wanted to avoid USM and SSM for a change. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Pics of the 16-50/2.8 Tokina ... not the pentax version. Shel [Original Message] From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/6/2006 9:38:18 PM Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8 Shel - Really? Where? The only pic I've seen is of the Tokina version. That doesn't count--it doesn't have the green metal band. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Please provide a link to the lens roadmap that shows these new and yet to be released lenses. Like I've said a couple of times, I've not seen it. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne When a company issues a PDF on their website with the name lens roadmap, it's hardly a rumor anymore. It is also a document of commitment, so questioning whether these lenses will be realised is quite futile, imho. What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Thanks! That's helpful. However, there are those here who claim there will be some sort of motor-in0\-lens auto focus, but I've not seen anything official about that. Yet there are some who speak of it as fact. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Ahh, that explains why I've not seen what some others have seen. Thanks for clarifying that. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne It's the old one. According to the document properties, it was last changed on 22. March 2006. Jostein On 9/7/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. I just examined that page more closely and it does have a link to one of the roadmap PDF files. Looks fairly old - they hadn't even decided on the exact focal lengths of the 16-50 and 50-135. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. Paul On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:20 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Thanks! That's helpful. However, there are those here who claim there will be some sort of motor-in0\-lens auto focus, but I've not seen anything official about that. Yet there are some who speak of it as fact. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Apologies, Shel, You're right that the facts are official yet. 14 September will be the magical date. Jostein On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! That's helpful. However, there are those here who claim there will be some sort of motor-in0\-lens auto focus, but I've not seen anything official about that. Yet there are some who speak of it as fact. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
No he hasn't. It's part of a vicious cruel dis-information campaign. nudge, nudge, wink wink Dave At 07:05 PM 7/09/2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 09:32:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability On 9/7/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. ILFM? The newest technology is an anagram of film? 8-) hehehe. That would be fun. Given the many opponents of TLA's I just wanted to avoid USM and SSM for a change. :-) Jostein Focus - In Lens Motor. Pentax - the only company whose lenses have FILM built in! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 11:05:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. Yes, just a bit. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 9/07/06 8:50 AM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 11:05:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel Shel, I am not Rob who must be asleep in the crocodile land, but I think I have seen it recently. In fact, folks have been arguing profusely :-) about ultrasonic vs supersonic when I peeked into it so I sort of ignored the thread. Then I popped in toward the end, missing in-betweens and they were apparently talking about the actual press release. Thread title was Lens in motor or not? USM? and at some point, Rob allegedly posted the pertinent part of the press release which clearly mentioned the in-lens supersonic motor, from which the argument erupted (I guess). With the release date approaching so close, it is very conceivable that distributors/retailers already got documentations and if you are persistent/insistent, you might be able to get it :-). That's all I know but hope it helps your frustration. Cheers, Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 9/07/06 8:17 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thread title was Lens in motor or not? USM? and at some point, Rob allegedly posted the pertinent part of the press release which clearly mentioned the in-lens supersonic motor, from which the argument erupted (I guess). Opps, I forgot to add an important thing. Since you said you have no reason to doubt Rob's word, you can take above as the fact, which should ease your mind, right ? :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. On 7/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, just a bit. This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. D'oh. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
With the release date approaching so close, it is very conceivable that distributors/retailers already got documentations and if you are persistent/insistent, you might be able to get it :-). - I wish I could draw. I have in my mind a cartoon. The scene is somewhere up in the clouds. The clouds are populated by the Pentax managers dressed as Greek gods and goddesses. Zeus-san is dropping a handful of leaflets to earth. The leaflets give details of the K10D, but also warn that if the reader discloses the details, he or she will be struck by a bolt of lightning. Zeus-san is chuckling to himself, saying Watch now how they will start fighting among themselves. Down on earth, diminutive creatures are scurrying back and forth, trying to get one of the leaflets. I wish I could draw. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Cotty wrote: On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. On 7/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, just a bit. This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. D'oh. No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 7/9/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. Oh right. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) D'oh! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
This gives me a chance to, again, see this wording, ...with the highest resolving power..(22 bits or 4.2m gradation Does this mean image or color resolution? Would the effect be the same in either case? Is this, in fact, the highest in the industry? Jack --- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. On 7/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, just a bit. This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. D'oh. No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 08/09/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. No not that bit or the grip bit! It was another bit, not the 32 custom functions either. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 08/09/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This gives me a chance to, again, see this wording, ...with the highest resolving power..(22 bits or 4.2m gradation Does this mean image or color resolution? Would the effect be the same in either case? Is this, in fact, the highest in the industry? Just don't get carried away, consider that the pixel well probably holds on the order of 40,000 electrons at saturation, so 4.2M gradations is a little bit of overkill :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Dave At 05:26 AM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 7/9/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. Oh right. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) D'oh! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. No not that bit or the grip bit! It was another bit, not the 32 custom functions either. This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 08/09/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. Don't think so, it wasn't simultaneous recording of RAW and JPEG images or Day-by-day folders to simplify the arrangement and search of recorded images either? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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HAR! I think not. What else might it have been? :-) Paul (Now the release is accomplishing it was probably designed to accomplish) On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. Don't think so, it wasn't simultaneous recording of RAW and JPEG images or Day-by-day folders to simplify the arrangement and search of recorded images either? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Could it have been the manual fine adjustment of white balance? Dave At 09:52 AM 8/09/2006, you wrote: HAR! I think not. What else might it have been? :-) Paul (Now the release is accomplishing it was probably designed to accomplish) On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. Don't think so, it wasn't simultaneous recording of RAW and JPEG images or Day-by-day folders to simplify the arrangement and search of recorded images either? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Pay attention people. These guy's are leaking like a sieve. Dave At 09:42 AM 8/09/2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. Don't think so, it wasn't simultaneous recording of RAW and JPEG images or Day-by-day folders to simplify the arrangement and search of recorded images either? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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And there was the bit Rob posted about the USM lens support. In other words, he's leaked a large portion of the information he has. Of course none of that really matters. If Pentax doesn't want the information leaked, those who were originally charged with keeping the release under embargo violated that responsibility as soon as they passed it along to anyone outside the media. If, on the other hand, Pentax wanted to intentionally distribute the information, the coy (wink, wink) response of the list members who received the info has largely diminished the effectiveness of that. Paul On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. No not that bit or the grip bit! It was another bit, not the 32 custom functions either. This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This? Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. Don't think so, it wasn't simultaneous recording of RAW and JPEG images or Day-by-day folders to simplify the arrangement and search of recorded images either? Perhaps it was the Genuine snakeskin covering guaranteed to elicit passionate swoons from women and envious looks from men? Nh. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jack Davis wrote: I believe there exists what has been referred to as a new lens production road map..or some such thing. Assuming true, would someone please provide a link? Especially interested in USM. There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sounces point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. Photokina is coming in three weeks :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks, Mark. I've shot a bit with Canon USM's, so have some idea what may be in store. Am awaiting this Photokina with special interest. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I believe there exists what has been referred to as a new lens production road map..or some such thing. Assuming true, would someone please provide a link? Especially interested in USM. There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sounces point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. Photokina is coming in three weeks :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Why? - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Especially interested in USM. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. John On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:07:29 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there exists what has been referred to as a new lens production road map..or some such thing. Assuming true, would someone please provide a link? Especially interested in USM. Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks for the link, John. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. John On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:07:29 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there exists what has been referred to as a new lens production road map..or some such thing. Assuming true, would someone please provide a link? Especially interested in USM. Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Well, I had used a couple Canon USM's and found them extremely quick and quiet. If I liked theirs, just think how much I'd like Pentax. Jack --- cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Especially interested in USM. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This is a link to currently available lenses. There is also a chart showing future releases. Paul On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks for the link, John. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. John On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:07:29 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there exists what has been referred to as a new lens production road map..or some such thing. Assuming true, would someone please provide a link? Especially interested in USM. Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. The bottom of that chart shows 2006 Lenses. Some of them haven't been released yet, I believe. Like the 16-50/2.8, the 50-135/2.8, and the 55/2.8 Medium Format DSLR lens. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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For my part, I'm aware Mark. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I did note that, Doug. Thanks! Jack --- Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. The bottom of that chart shows 2006 Lenses. Some of them haven't been released yet, I believe. Like the 16-50/2.8, the 50-135/2.8, and the 55/2.8 Medium Format DSLR lens. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks! I'm aware. It's the future releases chart I'm thinking of..if it exists. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a link to currently available lenses. There is also a chart showing future releases. Paul On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks for the link, John. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. John On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:07:29 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there exists what has been referred to as a new lens production road map..or some such thing. Assuming true, would someone please provide a link? Especially interested in USM. Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. I just examined that page more closely and it does have a link to one of the roadmap PDF files. Looks fairly old - they hadn't even decided on the exact focal lengths of the 16-50 and 50-135. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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How is it know? Everything I've read here seems to be rumor or speculation, although supported by reasonable arguments in its favor. Is there perhaps something I've missed that makes this comment a truth rather than rumor/speculation? I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8, but nothing that says Pentax will be _definitely_ be using it, although it seems like a good idea and the lens certainly interests me. What are your sources? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sources point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Where is there a chart showing future releases? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist This is a link to currently available lenses. There is also a chart showing future releases. http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8 Shel - Really? Where? The only pic I've seen is of the Tokina version. That doesn't count--it doesn't have the green metal band. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
