Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread Derby Chang

Jerry in Arizona wrote:
OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX 
M42-PK adapter.  I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now permanently 
stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70).  Luckily I tested it first.  I don't 
want to repeat that on my K20D.  I guess the most important part is getting it 
out.  All advice and help greatfully requested.


Jerry

  

Hi Jerry,

Have a look at this page. Hope it helps

http://www.funadium.com/m42tok.php#umount

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RE: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jerry in Arizona
OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX 
M42-PK adapter.? I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now permanently 
stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70).? Luckily I tested it first.? I don't 
want to repeat that on my K20D.? I guess the most important part is getting it 
out.? All advice and help greatfully requested.


Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf

It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball point 
pen, then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  it will 
come out.


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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread Paul Ewins

 Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:
 
 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf
 
 It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball point pen, 
 then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  it will come out.

When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and click 
into place and then when you are done you use the special tool which disengages 
the spring and allows you to twist it out again. Except when it goes wrong and 
you can't disengage the spring and the adapter is then jammed solid. I have 
heard of a few other people (apart from myself and Jerry) that this has 
happened to and it is always a third-party adapter that goes wrong.

Paul
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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf

 It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball point pen, 
 then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  it will come out.

 When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and click 
 into place and then when you are done you use the special tool which 
 disengages the spring and allows you to twist it out again. Except when it 
 goes wrong and you can't disengage the spring and the adapter is then jammed 
 solid. I have heard of a few other people (apart from myself and Jerry) that 
 this has happened to and it is always a third-party adapter that goes wrong.

 Paul

And that's one reason why I use my M42 glass on my Minolta kit
nearly-exclusively these days. Infinity focus can be an issue, but the
adapters are WAY less hassle and much cheaper. Screw the adapter on
and use them like any other bayonet lens (and at $8 each, you can
afford 1 per lens). Canon and 4/3rds adapters work the same.

The Pentax style adapters guarantee infinity focus with Pentax lenses
(but may have issues with others, especially Fujinon's) but the
adapters are way more hassle to use.

-Adam

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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread Jerry in Arizona
First I want to thank all the members for their very helpful discussion and 
advice.  What a great group.  Well today I managed to get the Non-Pentax 
adapter 
out of the sacrificial PZ-70 without damaging the camera, especially to Derby 
Chang who provided the following link.

http://www.funadium.com/m42tok.php#umount

I now have two adapters, including a Pentax brand adapter.  Cuz I am basically 
a 
coward I decided to remove the spring lock on both adapters.  Tried them both 
on 
the PZ-70 and they went on and came off with no problems. I have an M42 Super 
Takumar 135mm f3.5 lens that I was eager to try out on my K20D.  First I tried 
to install the off brand adapter directly to the lens but then it would not 
attach to the PZ-70 mount.  Need to put the adapter in the camera first.  Then 
used the pentax adapter and the lens attached as it should.  Went out on the 
patio and did some test shots of sets of five (+/- .5) dial set to Av, f8.  
Downloaded shots to the puter and found that I needed a -.5 correction but I 
was 
truly amazed at the quality of the image.  I am now convinced I am on the right 
track.  Given that the adapters are relatively cheap I will get i per lens, 
remove the spring and using a automotive thread locker kinda permanantly attach 
the adapter to the lens.  Will be looking for a 300-400mm lens to go after 
those 
migratory birds we will be expecting here in a couple of months.

Thanks again to all

Jerry

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On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf

 It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball point pen, 
then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  it will come out.

 When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and click 
into place and then when you are done you use the special tool which 
disengages 
the spring and allows you to twist it out again. Except when it goes wrong and 
you can't disengage the spring and the adapter is then jammed solid. I have 
heard of a few other people (apart from myself and Jerry) that this has 
happened 
to and it is always a third-party adapter that goes wrong.

 Paul

And that's one reason why I use my M42 glass on my Minolta kit
nearly-exclusively these days. Infinity focus can be an issue, but the
adapters are WAY less hassle and much cheaper. Screw the adapter on
and use them like any other bayonet lens (and at $8 each, you can
afford 1 per lens). Canon and 4/3rds adapters work the same.

The Pentax style adapters guarantee infinity focus with Pentax lenses
(but may have issues with others, especially Fujinon's) but the
adapters are way more hassle to use.

-Adam

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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Be very careful using an adapter without a spring.  Focusing a bit to 
energetically may cause the lens to dismount from the camera at an 
inappropriate time.  I had that happen to me with an actual K mount lens 
I thought was securely locked in place...


On 8/8/2010 8:06 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

First I want to thank all the members for their very helpful discussion and
advice.  What a great group.  Well today I managed to get the Non-Pentax adapter
out of the sacrificial PZ-70 without damaging the camera, especially to Derby
Chang who provided the following link.

http://www.funadium.com/m42tok.php#umount

I now have two adapters, including a Pentax brand adapter.  Cuz I am basically a
coward I decided to remove the spring lock on both adapters.  Tried them both on
the PZ-70 and they went on and came off with no problems. I have an M42 Super
Takumar 135mm f3.5 lens that I was eager to try out on my K20D.  First I tried
to install the off brand adapter directly to the lens but then it would not
attach to the PZ-70 mount.  Need to put the adapter in the camera first.  Then
used the pentax adapter and the lens attached as it should.  Went out on the
patio and did some test shots of sets of five (+/- .5) dial set to Av, f8. 
Downloaded shots to the puter and found that I needed a -.5 correction but I was

truly amazed at the quality of the image.  I am now convinced I am on the right
track.  Given that the adapters are relatively cheap I will get i per lens,
remove the spring and using a automotive thread locker kinda permanantly attach
the adapter to the lens.  Will be looking for a 300-400mm lens to go after those
migratory birds we will be expecting here in a couple of months.

Thanks again to all

Jerry

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On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Ewinspaulew...@optusnet.com.au  wrote:
   
 

Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf

It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball point pen,
then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  it will come out.
   

When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and click
into place and then when you are done you use the special tool which disengages
the spring and allows you to twist it out again. Except when it goes wrong and
you can't disengage the spring and the adapter is then jammed solid. I have
heard of a few other people (apart from myself and Jerry) that this has happened
to and it is always a third-party adapter that goes wrong.

Paul
 

And that's one reason why I use my M42 glass on my Minolta kit
nearly-exclusively these days. Infinity focus can be an issue, but the
adapters are WAY less hassle and much cheaper. Screw the adapter on
and use them like any other bayonet lens (and at $8 each, you can
afford 1 per lens). Canon and 4/3rds adapters work the same.

The Pentax style adapters guarantee infinity focus with Pentax lenses
(but may have issues with others, especially Fujinon's) but the
adapters are way more hassle to use.

-Adam

   



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RE: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Ive used the pentax adapter for years with no
problem. no tool is necessary to remove them
from the k body, I just squeeze the spring to
remove from body. just squeeze and turn, its 
not that difficult.

p.s. the pentax adapter makes the k body into
m42 body, it doesn't make the screw lenses
into k lenses.

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
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Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Using the M42 Adapter?


On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au
wrote:

 Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf

 It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball 
 point pen, then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  
 it will come out.

 When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and 
 click into place and then when you are done you use the special tool 
 which disengages the spring and allows you to twist it out again. 
 Except when it goes wrong and you can't disengage the spring and the 
 adapter is then jammed solid. I have heard of a few other people 
 (apart from myself and Jerry) that this has happened to and it is 
 always a third-party adapter that goes wrong.

 Paul

And that's one reason why I use my M42 glass on my Minolta kit
nearly-exclusively these days. Infinity focus can be an issue, but the
adapters are WAY less hassle and much cheaper. Screw the adapter on and use
them like any other bayonet lens (and at $8 each, you can afford 1 per
lens). Canon and 4/3rds adapters work the same.

The Pentax style adapters guarantee infinity focus with Pentax lenses (but
may have issues with others, especially Fujinon's) but the adapters are way
more hassle to use.

-Adam

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RE: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-08 Thread J.C. O'Connell
your plan wont work because if you remove
the spring, there is no way for the lens
to remain locked as you focus

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Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:07 PM
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First I want to thank all the members for their very helpful discussion and 
advice.  What a great group.  Well today I managed to get the Non-Pentax
adapter 
out of the sacrificial PZ-70 without damaging the camera, especially to
Derby 
Chang who provided the following link.

http://www.funadium.com/m42tok.php#umount

I now have two adapters, including a Pentax brand adapter.  Cuz I am
basically a 
coward I decided to remove the spring lock on both adapters.  Tried them
both on 
the PZ-70 and they went on and came off with no problems. I have an M42
Super 
Takumar 135mm f3.5 lens that I was eager to try out on my K20D.  First I
tried 
to install the off brand adapter directly to the lens but then it would not 
attach to the PZ-70 mount.  Need to put the adapter in the camera first. 
Then 
used the pentax adapter and the lens attached as it should.  Went out on the

patio and did some test shots of sets of five (+/- .5) dial set to Av, f8.  
Downloaded shots to the puter and found that I needed a -.5 correction but I
was 
truly amazed at the quality of the image.  I am now convinced I am on the
right 
track.  Given that the adapters are relatively cheap I will get i per lens, 
remove the spring and using a automotive thread locker kinda permanantly
attach 
the adapter to the lens.  Will be looking for a 300-400mm lens to go after
those 
migratory birds we will be expecting here in a couple of months.

Thanks again to all

Jerry

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On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au
wrote:

 Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file:

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf

 It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball 
point pen,
then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops  it will come out.

 When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and 
click
into place and then when you are done you use the special tool which
disengages 
the spring and allows you to twist it out again. Except when it goes wrong
and 
you can't disengage the spring and the adapter is then jammed solid. I have

heard of a few other people (apart from myself and Jerry) that this has
happened 
to and it is always a third-party adapter that goes wrong.

 Paul

And that's one reason why I use my M42 glass on my Minolta kit
nearly-exclusively these days. Infinity focus can be an issue, but the
adapters are WAY less hassle and much cheaper. Screw the adapter on and use
them like any other bayonet lens (and at $8 each, you can afford 1 per
lens). Canon and 4/3rds adapters work the same.

The Pentax style adapters guarantee infinity focus with Pentax lenses (but
may have issues with others, especially Fujinon's) but the adapters are way
more hassle to use.

-Adam

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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-07 Thread paul stenquist

On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

 OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX 
 M42-PK adapter.  I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now 
 permanently 
 stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70).  Luckily I tested it first.  I don't 
 want to repeat that on my K20D.  I guess the most important part is getting 
 it 
 out.  All advice and help greatfully requested.

To release any M42 adapter, you have to lift the little spring clip before 
unscrewing the adapter.
Paul
 
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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-07 Thread Paul Ewins
This happened on my MX and I had to undo the screws that held the K-mount to 
the body and remove the entire mount. At that point I was able to disengage the 
flat spring that locks the M42 adapter into the K-mount. After that I got a 
genuine Pentax adapter and discarded the third party one that had caused the 
trouble. 

That procedure was relatively safe on the MX which doesn't have any electrical 
contacts in the mount. With the PZ70 you have the complication of all of the AE 
contacts. I'm not sure how the contacts are held in place and removing the 
mount may result in a lot of very small and fiddly parts falling into your lap

Paul.

 
On 08/08/2010, at 10:56 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

 OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX 
 M42-PK adapter.  I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now 
 permanently 
 stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70).  Luckily I tested it first.  I don't 
 want to repeat that on my K20D.  I guess the most important part is getting 
 it 
 out.  All advice and help greatfully requested.
 
 Jerry
 
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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
The contacts are probably held in place with very energetic springs, if 
it's like the MZ/ZX series cameras.


On 8/7/2010 9:28 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:

This happened on my MX and I had to undo the screws that held the K-mount to 
the body and remove the entire mount. At that point I was able to disengage the 
flat spring that locks the M42 adapter into the K-mount. After that I got a 
genuine Pentax adapter and discarded the third party one that had caused the 
trouble.

That procedure was relatively safe on the MX which doesn't have any electrical 
contacts in the mount. With the PZ70 you have the complication of all of the AE 
contacts. I'm not sure how the contacts are held in place and removing the 
mount may result in a lot of very small and fiddly parts falling into your lap

Paul.


On 08/08/2010, at 10:56 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

   

OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX
M42-PK adapter.  I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now permanently
stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70).  Luckily I tested it first.  I don't
want to repeat that on my K20D.  I guess the most important part is getting it
out.  All advice and help greatfully requested.

Jerry

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Re: Using the M42 Adapter?

2010-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
It probably isn't stuck.  You don't remove the adapter using the camera 
body release.  Looking at the camera from the front there are two 
cutouts in the adapter.  Inside one of them, I don't remember which you 
should see a black spring clip.  You should be able to do this with your 
fingernail but a small screwdriver or pen knive blade works as well.  
Press the spring clip away from the camera body towards the adapter. 
while turning the adapter to the left as if removing a lens.  It should 
release and pop right out.


On 8/7/2010 8:56 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX
M42-PK adapter.  I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now permanently
stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70).  Luckily I tested it first.  I don't
want to repeat that on my K20D.  I guess the most important part is getting it
out.  All advice and help greatfully requested.

Jerry

   



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