Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...
That kind of depends actually. Ricoh could have chosen to limit movie recording time for any number of reasons, famously, certain very expensive models of Nikon and Canon still cameras had those limits set because of EU regulations and taxes levied on video cameras which effected the entire world. It could be that it was just easier to implement on the available hardware for any number of underlying reasons. I expect that it was left out because there simply wasn't room in the PROM chip too have everything. On 3/28/2017 11:01 AM, Darren Addy wrote: That's a good thought/question Gonz (overheating limiting the amount of time you can shoot in that mode). I have yet to try it, myself. But it would definitely good to know what the limitations are, in that regard. Darren Addy Kearney, NE On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Gonz wrote: This doesn't work the same on the K-1. On the K-1, in camera mode, it has an interval shooting selection that can work to create either frames or movies, but it still uses the full mirror/shutter path to do so and the minimum interval is 2s. It would be nice if it had an electronic shutter mode for intervals of less than 2s and did not use the mirror/shutter path. But this probably has the same overheating limitations of movie mode for long periods of time. In movie mode there are no interval options, only options for the remote. You might as well use time-lapse mode in your iPhone or equivalent for these types of situations. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize this). I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie (tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or some such software. But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q, this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control, Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie Mode" you select your: Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1 min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.) Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time) If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further, if a clip is too long for your tastes. Here is an example someone took with a K-3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM Example taken with a K-01: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw&feature=youtu.be As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker. It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode, though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2). I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01. The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting) is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the movie file. Hope someone else finds this interesting. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still. Dorothea Lange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please
Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...
That's a good thought/question Gonz (overheating limiting the amount of time you can shoot in that mode). I have yet to try it, myself. But it would definitely good to know what the limitations are, in that regard. Darren Addy Kearney, NE On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Gonz wrote: > This doesn't work the same on the K-1. On the K-1, in camera mode, it > has an interval shooting selection that can work to create either > frames or movies, but it still uses the full mirror/shutter path to do > so and the minimum interval is 2s. It would be nice if it had an > electronic shutter mode for intervals of less than 2s and did not use > the mirror/shutter path. But this probably has the same overheating > limitations of movie mode for long periods of time. In movie mode > there are no interval options, only options for the remote. You might > as well use time-lapse mode in your iPhone or equivalent for these > types of situations. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am >> trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of >> interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize >> this). >> >> I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a >> time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie >> (tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax >> cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can >> also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image >> number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually >> then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or >> some such software. >> >> But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make >> time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q, >> this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my >> K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then >> hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control, >> Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie >> Mode" you select your: >> Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD >> Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1 >> min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.) >> Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC >> Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time) >> If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN >> >> Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull >> that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further, >> if a clip is too long for your tastes. >> >> Here is an example someone took with a K-3: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM >> >> Example taken with a K-01: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw&feature=youtu.be >> >> As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of >> time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a >> viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers >> superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to >> daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker. >> >> It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode, >> though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording >> interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2). >> >> I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01. >> >> The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the >> individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you >> would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times >> when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great >> advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting) >> is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of >> individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the >> movie file. >> >> Hope someone else finds this interesting. >> >> Darren Addy >> Kearney, Nebraska >> >> -- >> “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” >> ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding > it still. Dorothea Lange > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly
Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...
This doesn't work the same on the K-1. On the K-1, in camera mode, it has an interval shooting selection that can work to create either frames or movies, but it still uses the full mirror/shutter path to do so and the minimum interval is 2s. It would be nice if it had an electronic shutter mode for intervals of less than 2s and did not use the mirror/shutter path. But this probably has the same overheating limitations of movie mode for long periods of time. In movie mode there are no interval options, only options for the remote. You might as well use time-lapse mode in your iPhone or equivalent for these types of situations. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am > trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of > interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize > this). > > I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a > time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie > (tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax > cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can > also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image > number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually > then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or > some such software. > > But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make > time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q, > this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my > K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then > hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control, > Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie > Mode" you select your: > Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD > Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1 > min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.) > Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC > Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time) > If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN > > Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull > that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further, > if a clip is too long for your tastes. > > Here is an example someone took with a K-3: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM > > Example taken with a K-01: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw&feature=youtu.be > > As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of > time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a > viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers > superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to > daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker. > > It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode, > though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording > interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2). > > I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01. > > The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the > individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you > would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times > when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great > advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting) > is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of > individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the > movie file. > > Hope someone else finds this interesting. > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska > > -- > “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” > ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still. Dorothea Lange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...
That is indeed cool, Darren. I could have used that feature a few times in the past year had I known about it. Thanks! On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am > trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of > interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize > this). > > I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a > time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie > (tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax > cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can > also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image > number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually > then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or > some such software. > > But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make > time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q, > this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my > K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then > hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control, > Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie > Mode" you select your: > Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD > Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1 > min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.) > Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC > Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time) > If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN > > Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull > that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further, > if a clip is too long for your tastes. > > Here is an example someone took with a K-3: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM > > Example taken with a K-01: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw&feature=youtu.be > > As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of > time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a > viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers > superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to > daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker. > > It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode, > though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording > interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2). > > I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01. > > The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the > individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you > would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times > when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great > advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting) > is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of > individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the > movie file. > > Hope someone else finds this interesting. > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska > > -- > “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” > ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.