Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

2011-06-06 Thread Ecke PDML
2011/6/6 Bulent Celasun :
>
> It can perhaps be used as a reverse macro lens; who knows?

Doubt it. As a projection lens it has a short register distance but
probaby is designed to focus at longer distances. I read in an
astrophotography forum that they make great oculars when mounted to a
Plössler eyepiece (whatever that is). If you invert them, you will
probably find that you have to go much too close to make it focus. You
are probably better off to try putting it on a long throw bellows or a
stack of extension tubes. Either way it will not let you stop down so
you will have a pretty thin slice of DOF to deal with.

> I will let the list know if I can make any progress.

Nonetheless I look forward very much to your finding. Even if they
involve tumor sections :]
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

2011-06-06 Thread Bulent Celasun
Joseph, Peter and Ecke,

Thank you much for your replies.

Joseph, you may be right about its usage as a paper weight in the end;
it will be a handsome one, though ;)
Peter, the flange distance will probably be very short (less than that
of most SLRs), I believe.
Ecke, mine has a fixed width. Other than that, they must be similar.

It can perhaps be used as a reverse macro lens; who knows?
I will let the list know if I can make any progress.

Bulent


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2011/6/6 Ecke PDML :
> http://cgi.ebay.nl/2x-OBJEKTIV-ZEISS-KIPRONAR-1-9-14cm-T-fur-KINOPROJEKTOR-/400022762552
> anything similar to that?
> Built for portable 35mm cinema projectors until about 1955
> corrected for flat field
> OK lens but no more
> hth
> ecke
>
> 2011/6/6 Ecke PDML :
>> Hi Bulent
>> Is it thread mounted?
>> Cheers
>> Ecke
>>
>> 2011/6/6 Peter Zalabai :
>>> On Flickr there are some photos made with CZJ Kipronar lenses, try to
>>> contact one of the guys to ask the flange distance.. then you can try to
>>> mount it on your camera... 135 at f1.9 sounds really interesting to me :)
>>>
>>> .t
>>> - Original Message - From: "Bulent Celasun"
>>> 
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:03 PM
>>> Subject: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm
>>>
>>>
 Hello All,

 Today I have found a Carl Zeiss Jena Kipronar 1:1,9 f=135mm "lens".
 I guess this is a lens for projection devices and was built in,
 perhaps, nineteen forties.
 It does not seem to be coated.
 No diaphragm is present. Likewise, no focusing ring...
 It seems to have two elements (or, groups) at each end.
 Glass seems fine.
 It is 140mm long and the diameter is about 76 mm.
 The middle part consists of a 88 mm- long bright (chrome?) metal.

 I wonder if I can use this as anything other than a USD 20 paper weight.

 Can I, perhaps, built a camera which exposes a sensitized surface via this
 lens?
 Sort of a view camera?
 How can I find its "flange distance", if there is one?

 Any ideas?

 Bulent

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Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

2011-06-05 Thread Ecke PDML
http://cgi.ebay.nl/2x-OBJEKTIV-ZEISS-KIPRONAR-1-9-14cm-T-fur-KINOPROJEKTOR-/400022762552
anything similar to that?
Built for portable 35mm cinema projectors until about 1955
corrected for flat field
OK lens but no more
hth
ecke

2011/6/6 Ecke PDML :
> Hi Bulent
> Is it thread mounted?
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> 2011/6/6 Peter Zalabai :
>> On Flickr there are some photos made with CZJ Kipronar lenses, try to
>> contact one of the guys to ask the flange distance.. then you can try to
>> mount it on your camera... 135 at f1.9 sounds really interesting to me :)
>>
>> .t
>> - Original Message - From: "Bulent Celasun"
>> 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:03 PM
>> Subject: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Today I have found a Carl Zeiss Jena Kipronar 1:1,9 f=135mm "lens".
>>> I guess this is a lens for projection devices and was built in,
>>> perhaps, nineteen forties.
>>> It does not seem to be coated.
>>> No diaphragm is present. Likewise, no focusing ring...
>>> It seems to have two elements (or, groups) at each end.
>>> Glass seems fine.
>>> It is 140mm long and the diameter is about 76 mm.
>>> The middle part consists of a 88 mm- long bright (chrome?) metal.
>>>
>>> I wonder if I can use this as anything other than a USD 20 paper weight.
>>>
>>> Can I, perhaps, built a camera which exposes a sensitized surface via this
>>> lens?
>>> Sort of a view camera?
>>> How can I find its "flange distance", if there is one?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Bulent
>>>
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>>> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun
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Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

2011-06-05 Thread Ecke PDML
Hi Bulent
Is it thread mounted?
Cheers
Ecke

2011/6/6 Peter Zalabai :
> On Flickr there are some photos made with CZJ Kipronar lenses, try to
> contact one of the guys to ask the flange distance.. then you can try to
> mount it on your camera... 135 at f1.9 sounds really interesting to me :)
>
> .t
> - Original Message - From: "Bulent Celasun"
> 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:03 PM
> Subject: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Today I have found a Carl Zeiss Jena Kipronar 1:1,9 f=135mm "lens".
>> I guess this is a lens for projection devices and was built in,
>> perhaps, nineteen forties.
>> It does not seem to be coated.
>> No diaphragm is present. Likewise, no focusing ring...
>> It seems to have two elements (or, groups) at each end.
>> Glass seems fine.
>> It is 140mm long and the diameter is about 76 mm.
>> The middle part consists of a 88 mm- long bright (chrome?) metal.
>>
>> I wonder if I can use this as anything other than a USD 20 paper weight.
>>
>> Can I, perhaps, built a camera which exposes a sensitized surface via this
>> lens?
>> Sort of a view camera?
>> How can I find its "flange distance", if there is one?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Bulent
>>
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun
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Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Zalabai
On Flickr there are some photos made with CZJ Kipronar lenses, try to 
contact one of the guys to ask the flange distance.. then you can try to 
mount it on your camera... 135 at f1.9 sounds really interesting to me :)


.t
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From: "Bulent Celasun" 

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Subject: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm



Hello All,

Today I have found a Carl Zeiss Jena Kipronar 1:1,9 f=135mm "lens".
I guess this is a lens for projection devices and was built in,
perhaps, nineteen forties.
It does not seem to be coated.
No diaphragm is present. Likewise, no focusing ring...
It seems to have two elements (or, groups) at each end.
Glass seems fine.
It is 140mm long and the diameter is about 76 mm.
The middle part consists of a 88 mm- long bright (chrome?) metal.

I wonder if I can use this as anything other than a USD 20 paper weight.

Can I, perhaps, built a camera which exposes a sensitized surface via this 
lens?

Sort of a view camera?
How can I find its "flange distance", if there is one?

Any ideas?

Bulent

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Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

2011-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
a haughty paperweight

or sell on eBay to someone who has the projector but no lens


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On Jun 5, 2011, at 12:03 , Bulent Celasun wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Today I have found a Carl Zeiss Jena Kipronar 1:1,9 f=135mm "lens".
> I guess this is a lens for projection devices and was built in,
> perhaps, nineteen forties.
> It does not seem to be coated.
> No diaphragm is present. Likewise, no focusing ring...
> It seems to have two elements (or, groups) at each end.
> Glass seems fine.
> It is 140mm long and the diameter is about 76 mm.
> The middle part consists of a 88 mm- long bright (chrome?) metal.
> 
> I wonder if I can use this as anything other than a USD 20 paper weight.
> 
> Can I, perhaps, built a camera which exposes a sensitized surface via this 
> lens?
> Sort of a view camera?
> How can I find its "flange distance", if there is one?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Bulent
> 
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