Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
On May 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, John wrote: > One alternative reason is they don't intend to use it themselves, but > wanted something they could sell to Patent Trolls. We’re talking Bezos here, the man who makes Bill Gates look like Pope Francis. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
One alternative reason is they don't intend to use it themselves, but wanted something they could sell to Patent Trolls. On 5/9/2014 5:50 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: If you read the patent, they are covering something very specific down to specific camera settings. If they really wanted to sue people it wouldn't stand up in court anyways. There are numerous examples of prior art here. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: They should consult someone with legal experience, as well as experience of this type of photography: http://tinyurl.com/Diamondgeezas B On 9 May 2014, at 20:25, "John" wrote: On 5/9/2014 11:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 5/9/2014 11:25 AM, Bill wrote: On 09/05/2014 9:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed government masters err servants. Someone should try to put a patent on patents. If successful, they would pretty much own the world. I suspect that plain white background portraiture is going to make a comeback in a big way because of this. bill I expect, that as this is easily provable as prior art, that Amazon will quietly fold, if a high enough profile studio, or individual, with even moderately deep pockets, has a lawyer reply to their initial contact to cease, and desist based on it. Amazon doesn't want a fight. They want to dominate without a fight. I've read some speculation that this might be Amazon trying to show how absurd the current US Patent Law is; something in the light of recent Apple/Samsung patent wars. I'm thinking of Apple patenting rounded corners, finger gestures & such and then suing everyone. Harks back to when they sued Microsoft over the "look & feel" of a graphical user interface. Amazon's patent may be a figurative "finger gesture" of a sort. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
If you read the patent, they are covering something very specific down to specific camera settings. If they really wanted to sue people it wouldn't stand up in court anyways. There are numerous examples of prior art here. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > They should consult someone with legal experience, as well as experience of > this type of photography: > > http://tinyurl.com/Diamondgeezas > > B > >> On 9 May 2014, at 20:25, "John" wrote: >> >>> On 5/9/2014 11:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 5/9/2014 11:25 AM, Bill wrote: > On 09/05/2014 9:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't > fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by > total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed > government masters err servants. Someone should try to put a patent on patents. If successful, they would pretty much own the world. I suspect that plain white background portraiture is going to make a comeback in a big way because of this. bill >>> I expect, that as this is easily provable as prior art, that Amazon will >>> quietly fold, if a high enough profile studio, or individual, with even >>> moderately deep pockets, has a lawyer reply to their initial contact to >>> cease, and desist based on it. Amazon doesn't want a fight. They want >>> to dominate without a fight. >> >> I've read some speculation that this might be Amazon trying to show how >> absurd the current US Patent Law is; something in the light of recent >> Apple/Samsung patent wars. >> >> I'm thinking of Apple patenting rounded corners, finger gestures & such >> and then suing everyone. Harks back to when they sued Microsoft over the >> "look & feel" of a graphical user interface. >> >> Amazon's patent may be a figurative "finger gesture" of a sort. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
On May 9, 2014, at 14:23 , John wrote: > > I've read some speculation that this might be Amazon trying to show how > absurd the current US Patent Law is; something in the light of recent > Apple/Samsung patent wars. > > I'm thinking of Apple patenting rounded corners, finger gestures & such > and then suing everyone. Harks back to when they sued Microsoft over the > "look & feel" of a graphical user interface. > > Amazon's patent may be a figurative "finger gesture" of a sort. > I like this idea; I hope you are correct! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
They should consult someone with legal experience, as well as experience of this type of photography: http://tinyurl.com/Diamondgeezas B > On 9 May 2014, at 20:25, "John" wrote: > >> On 5/9/2014 11:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: >>> On 5/9/2014 11:25 AM, Bill wrote: On 09/05/2014 9:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed government masters err servants. >>> >>> Someone should try to put a patent on patents. If successful, they >>> would pretty much own the world. >>> I suspect that plain white background portraiture is going to make a >>> comeback in a big way because of this. >>> >>> bill >> I expect, that as this is easily provable as prior art, that Amazon will >> quietly fold, if a high enough profile studio, or individual, with even >> moderately deep pockets, has a lawyer reply to their initial contact to >> cease, and desist based on it. Amazon doesn't want a fight. They want >> to dominate without a fight. > > I've read some speculation that this might be Amazon trying to show how > absurd the current US Patent Law is; something in the light of recent > Apple/Samsung patent wars. > > I'm thinking of Apple patenting rounded corners, finger gestures & such > and then suing everyone. Harks back to when they sued Microsoft over the > "look & feel" of a graphical user interface. > > Amazon's patent may be a figurative "finger gesture" of a sort. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
On 5/9/2014 11:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 5/9/2014 11:25 AM, Bill wrote: On 09/05/2014 9:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed government masters err servants. Someone should try to put a patent on patents. If successful, they would pretty much own the world. I suspect that plain white background portraiture is going to make a comeback in a big way because of this. bill I expect, that as this is easily provable as prior art, that Amazon will quietly fold, if a high enough profile studio, or individual, with even moderately deep pockets, has a lawyer reply to their initial contact to cease, and desist based on it. Amazon doesn't want a fight. They want to dominate without a fight. I've read some speculation that this might be Amazon trying to show how absurd the current US Patent Law is; something in the light of recent Apple/Samsung patent wars. I'm thinking of Apple patenting rounded corners, finger gestures & such and then suing everyone. Harks back to when they sued Microsoft over the "look & feel" of a graphical user interface. Amazon's patent may be a figurative "finger gesture" of a sort. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
on 2014-05-09 9:25 Bill wrote Someone should try to put a patent on patents. good luck - i have a prior patent on a method for proving that nothing is patentable -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
On 5/9/2014 11:25 AM, Bill wrote: On 09/05/2014 9:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed government masters err servants. Someone should try to put a patent on patents. If successful, they would pretty much own the world. I suspect that plain white background portraiture is going to make a comeback in a big way because of this. bill I expect, that as this is easily provable as prior art, that Amazon will quietly fold, if a high enough profile studio, or individual, with even moderately deep pockets, has a lawyer reply to their initial contact to cease, and desist based on it. Amazon doesn't want a fight. They want to dominate without a fight. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
On 09/05/2014 9:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed government masters err servants. Someone should try to put a patent on patents. If successful, they would pretty much own the world. I suspect that plain white background portraiture is going to make a comeback in a big way because of this. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When does the Amazon royalty bill come?
I thought of becoming a Patent agent not too long ago. I couldn't fulfill the paper requirements. Yet the system seems to be run by total incompetents, like much of the rest of our over credentialed government masters err servants. On 5/9/2014 8:23 AM, CollinB wrote: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140507/04102327144/us-patent-office-grants-photography-against-white-background-patent-to-amazon.shtml -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
