Re: circular polarizer
Make no mistake about it -- pantyhose are a evil male plot to keep women oppressed -- rest assured, we will triumph one day and the world will be ours with men as our slaves ... As far as the tongue thing goes, I don't know, but my cat does it all the time. :-) - Original Message - From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: RE: circular polarizer > Mafud wrote: > >Gee Bill, as simple as you made polarized and polarizing light sound, (even > > >*I* understood your quick lesson) you're the person to ask this next tough > >question: > >Why do women stand on their tiptoes when putting on their pantyhose? > > YIKES!! Some women swear panty hose are a sadistic plot perpetrated by > men. > But what do I know? Sure glad we men don't have to wear those damned > things! > > >And why do people cock their heads, close one eye then stick their tongues > >out when they're threading a needle? > > Ahhh! That's got to be a depth-of-field thing, right? Don't know > about the tongue > > Bill Peifer > Rochester, NY > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
RE: circular polarizer
> Make no mistake about it -- pantyhose are a evil male plot to > keep women > oppressed -- rest assured, we will triumph one day and the > world will be > ours with men as our slaves ... Rest assured, the men are already the slaves. Women are much too smart for us, but only a small number of men realize this. It took me many years to come to this conclusion and verify it to my satisfaction. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
Treena Harp wrote: > > Make no mistake about it -- pantyhose are a evil male plot to keep women > oppressed -- rest assured, we will triumph one day and the world will be > ours with men as our slaves ... And then what will you do when your fanbelt breaks? -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
John Francis wrote: > > Treena Harp wrote: > > > > Make no mistake about it -- pantyhose are a evil male plot to keep women > > oppressed -- rest assured, we will triumph one day and the world will be > > ours with men as our slaves ... > > And then what will you do when your fanbelt breaks? She will have you, her trusty slave, fix it. Then you'll have to give her a pedicure. I'll be hiding in the hills. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
"Paris, Leonard" wrote: > Women are much too smart for > us, but only a small number of men realize this. It took me many years to > come to this conclusion and verify it to my satisfaction. Then how come only women wear pantyhose? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
From: "Treena Harp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Make no mistake about it -- pantyhose are a evil male plot to keep women > oppressed -- rest assured, we will triumph one day and the world will be > ours with men as our slaves ... Yes. You're right. We've been bad. I've been bad. This situation must be remedied. I need to be free of this guilt. Can I come over for a spanking? I can bring my inflatable bondage chair and cuffs. Do you have your own whip? Har! Regards, Bob... --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
Robert Harris wrote: > > "Paris, Leonard" wrote: > > Women are much too smart for > > us, but only a small number of men realize this. It took me many years to > > come to this conclusion and verify it to my satisfaction. > > Then how come only women wear pantyhose? My, what a sheltered life you lead! Come visit San Francisco some time. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
John Francis wrote: > > My, what a sheltered life you lead! > Come visit San Francisco some time. Been there, and lived in Greenwich Village for a long time. Just didn't want to shock any of the innocents around here. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer
She's very talented. - Original Message - From: "Cy Galley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: circular polarizer > Your cat threads a needle??? > - Original Message - > From: "Treena Harp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: circular polarizer > > > > Make no mistake about it -- pantyhose are a evil male plot to keep women > > oppressed -- rest assured, we will triumph one day and the world will be > > ours with men as our slaves ... > > > > As far as the tongue thing goes, I don't know, but my cat does it all the > > time. :-) > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:45 PM > > Subject: RE: circular polarizer > > > > > > > Mafud wrote: > > > >Gee Bill, as simple as you made polarized and polarizing light sound, > > (even > > > > > > >*I* understood your quick lesson) you're the person to ask this next > > tough > > > >question: > > > >Why do women stand on their tiptoes when putting on their pantyhose? > > > > > > YIKES!! Some women swear panty hose are a sadistic plot > perpetrated > > by > > > men. > > > But what do I know? Sure glad we men don't have to wear those > damned > > > things! > > > > > > >And why do people cock their heads, close one eye then stick their > > tongues > > > >out when they're threading a needle? > > > > > > Ahhh! That's got to be a depth-of-field thing, right? Don't know > > > about the tongue > > > > > > Bill Peifer > > > Rochester, NY > > > > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. > > > > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: Circular polarizer suggestions
But whatever you do, don't, don't, for God's sake DON'T use it while on the Equator, or it will destroy the space-time continuum as we know it... > Hi, > > I hope you didn't pay too much for it. Circular polarizers are > specifically designed only to be used above the Arctic circle, or > below the Antarctic circle. If you're shooting penguins in black & > white (and why woudn't you?) the use of one of these filters increases > the contrast, particularly on King Penguins. If you use it in > conjunction with a red filter then you'll get pictures of flamingos. > > --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Circular polarizer suggestions
And definitely don't use it for portraits. Makes everyone look like Lech Walesa. >But whatever you do, don't, don't, for God's sake DON'T use it while on the >Equator, or it will destroy the space-time continuum as we know it... >> >> I hope you didn't pay too much for it. Circular polarizers are >> specifically designed only to be used above the Arctic circle, or >> below the Antarctic circle. If you're shooting penguins in black & >> white (and why woudn't you?) the use of one of these filters increases >> the contrast, particularly on King Penguins. If you use it in >> conjunction with a red filter then you'll get pictures of flamingos. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: circular polarizer question
Hi Scott, The camera does it for you. The ZX-5n's light meter doesn't know you've put a filter on, it just measures the light making it to the meter and adjusts Av and Tv accordingly. You may not have hurt much, depending on the film (print film is more forgiving than slide film). Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Hi, >I have a ZX-5N and was using a circular polarizer on a wide angle lens (28A) >this weekend at a antique car show in Springfield, Missouri. I took a lot >of pictures and hope they turn out well. I am just starting photography and >am really loving how much I am getting into it now. I am always on a look >out for pictures in my area now, Chicago area. Anyway, I digress, I have a >question. In a book I own, I believe a Kodak book on photograhy, it says >to increase up to a couple stops when using a circular polarizer. My >question is that I did a little test with and without the circular polarizer >on the lens. The meter on the camera did take into consideration when using >the circular polarizer on the lens and the meter provided about two more >stops vs. when the polarizer was off. I used the same scene to judge this. >Later, I also did this with various sites at the show and did the same >thing. Now I hope that I did not over exposure when I took a lot of >pictures manually over exposing from +.5 to 2 stops. >My question, long message to read to get to the question is this, do I have >to manually increase exposure when the circular polarizer is on the ZX-5N >camera or does the camera do this for you? > >Thanks for the advise in advance, >Scott - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: circular polarizer question
Metering is through the lens, hence through the filter. No manual compensation should be necessary. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Scott Dillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: circular polarizer question > Hi, > I have a ZX-5N and was using a circular polarizer on a wide angle lens (28A) > this weekend at a antique car show in Springfield, Missouri. I took a lot > of pictures and hope they turn out well. I am just starting photography and > am really loving how much I am getting into it now. I am always on a look > out for pictures in my area now, Chicago area. Anyway, I digress, I have a > question. In a book I own, I believe a Kodak book on photograhy, it says > to increase up to a couple stops when using a circular polarizer. My > question is that I did a little test with and without the circular polarizer > on the lens. The meter on the camera did take into consideration when using > the circular polarizer on the lens and the meter provided about two more > stops vs. when the polarizer was off. I used the same scene to judge this. > Later, I also did this with various sites at the show and did the same > thing. Now I hope that I did not over exposure when I took a lot of > pictures manually over exposing from +.5 to 2 stops. > My question, long message to read to get to the question is this, do I have > to manually increase exposure when the circular polarizer is on the ZX-5N > camera or does the camera do this for you? > > Thanks for the advise in advance, > Scott > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: circular polarizer question
Hello, the answer is NO. The camera will compensate by itself because there is less light going inside the camera... Alex Scott Dillard wrote: > > Hi, > I have a ZX-5N and was using a circular polarizer on a wide angle lens (28A) > this weekend at a antique car show in Springfield, Missouri. I took a lot > of pictures and hope they turn out well. I am just starting photography and > am really loving how much I am getting into it now. I am always on a look > out for pictures in my area now, Chicago area. Anyway, I digress, I have a > question. In a book I own, I believe a Kodak book on photograhy, it says > to increase up to a couple stops when using a circular polarizer. My > question is that I did a little test with and without the circular polarizer > on the lens. The meter on the camera did take into consideration when using > the circular polarizer on the lens and the meter provided about two more > stops vs. when the polarizer was off. I used the same scene to judge this. > Later, I also did this with various sites at the show and did the same > thing. Now I hope that I did not over exposure when I took a lot of > pictures manually over exposing from +.5 to 2 stops. > My question, long message to read to get to the question is this, do I have > to manually increase exposure when the circular polarizer is on the ZX-5N > camera or does the camera do this for you? > > Thanks for the advise in advance, > Scott > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- --- Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: circular polarizer question
Since the camera meter will compensate the difference automatically, you do not need to compensate manually. So the answer is "no". However, if you use a handheld meter, the answer will be "yes". regards, Alan Chan >Hi, >I have a ZX-5N and was using a circular polarizer on a wide angle lens >(28A) >this weekend at a antique car show in Springfield, Missouri. I took a lot >of pictures and hope they turn out well. I am just starting photography >and >am really loving how much I am getting into it now. I am always on a look >out for pictures in my area now, Chicago area. Anyway, I digress, I have a >question. In a book I own, I believe a Kodak book on photograhy, it says >to increase up to a couple stops when using a circular polarizer. My >question is that I did a little test with and without the circular >polarizer >on the lens. The meter on the camera did take into consideration when using >the circular polarizer on the lens and the meter provided about two more >stops vs. when the polarizer was off. I used the same scene to judge this. >Later, I also did this with various sites at the show and did the same >thing. Now I hope that I did not over exposure when I took a lot of >pictures manually over exposing from +.5 to 2 stops. >My question, long message to read to get to the question is this, do I have >to manually increase exposure when the circular polarizer is on the ZX-5N >camera or does the camera do this for you? > >Thanks for the advise in advance, >Scott _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Pantyhose - Was Re: circular polarizer
> Then how come only women wear pantyhose? Because they prefer them to garter belts and garters. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: circular polarizer was Re: 70-210 Zooms
Robert VanNatta wrote: > I was of the impression that a circular polarizer was needed when > you had one of those screwy lenses (like the 80-320) in which the > focusing action rotated the front element (and the filter mount), > making it difficult to keep a conventional polarizer correctly > oriented. Maybe I am wrong. :^) you seem to want an "automatic polarizer";^) You still must orient the polarizer to relative to what degree of polarization effect desired w/ either type. The circular ones are needed by certain AF cameras which use some sort of mirroring in them. Someone else will have more detailed info, sooner or later. Having to re-adjust when changing focus distance can be a nuisance, though. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.