Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Hi, Cotty, As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer? vbg -frank Cotty wrote: Hi Stephanie, Welcome aboard. Somone knowledgable will answer your questions presently. LOL! I'm on the digest. I shouldn't make time sensitive responses. Apologies. Cotty Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
If the screws you are talking about are the three on the bottom plate they are quite small. You'd need to drill holes for a screw extractor. You'd have to make that -perhaps from a small (2 mm) square file? - without destroying the threads. Of course it might be possible to re-tap the holes to 2 mm, but I wouldn't like to try that. The original screws are 1,7 mm in diameter with a threaded portion 2,5 mm long. Is there nothing left of the star at all? Could you not get a sharp single bladed jewellers screwdriver (2 mm) into what remains? To drill a hole for a screw extractor would be a very difficult job. When you do get the plate off how are you going to put it back? You'd need to order new screws from Pentax. Incidentally you may be on the right track. I think the mechanism that links mirror, shutter and cocking lever is simply sticky. Most of this kind of trouble comes from two levers on the bottom of the shaft not doing their job. Simple local CLA may be all that's needed. Off course if the shutter is jamming its and entirely different kettle of fish. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Stephanie Stiavetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: new to the list, + a repair question everyone, thanks for all of your input. I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the shutter manually, and nothing has worked. I decided to take the silly thing apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will grip them. how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work? there's got to be a way. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new to the list, + a repair question - Original Message - From: Stephanie Stiavetti Subject: new to the list, + a repair question I tried to get one of my ME Supers to repeat your problem, unsuccessfully. If the mirror is locked up, but you cannot release the shutter, then the mechanism has come out of its sequence. You could try to finish advancing the film by opening the camera back and rolling the sprocket towards the take up spool. This might cause the shutter to complete it's cycle. Or, you could paddle its bottom, that might jar the mechanism into sequence. William Robb on to my question: I recently acquired an old, very loved, Pentax ME Super SE. the mirror is stuck in the up position and replacing the batteries hasn't fixed the problem. I tried to gently dislodge the mirror and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops right back up. neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are functioning.
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Stephanie Stiavetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: everyone, thanks for all of your input. I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the shutter manually, and nothing has worked. I decided to take the silly thing apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will grip them. how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work? there's got to be a way. Before you go any further you should be aware that the cap on the pivot of the wind lever (and the nut underneath it) is a left-hand thread, so you have to turn it the reverse of the normal direction to loosen and remove it. (Turn it CLOCKWISE to remove it, in other words.) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
RE: new to the list, + a repair question
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Stephanie Stiavetti wrote: how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work? there's got to be a way. Hammer. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
You can probably get it off if you wear a rubber glove to get a grip. A pair of pliers is not a good idea. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Re: new to the list, + a repair question Stephanie Stiavetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: everyone, thanks for all of your input. I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the shutter manually, and nothing has worked. I decided to take the silly thing apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will grip them. how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work? there's got to be a way. Before you go any further you should be aware that the cap on the pivot of the wind lever (and the nut underneath it) is a left-hand thread, so you have to turn it the reverse of the normal direction to loosen and remove it. (Turn it CLOCKWISE to remove it, in other words.) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Silly question, but is the film rewind button jammed into the 'up' position? If so, this would inhibit winding on... HTH Cotty Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Hi Stephanie, Welcome aboard. Somone knowledgable will answer your questions presently. Cheers! Cotty in the UK Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Hi, Cotty, As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer? vbg -frank Cotty wrote: Hi Stephanie, Welcome aboard. Somone knowledgable will answer your questions presently. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
One of the resons for the mirror not coming down, is that the thing that was supposed to happen before the mirror drops, didn't happen. The thing that has to happen first is that the shutter has to close. It may look like it's down (rear curtain), but it may not be all the way down (I had this happen with a Program Plus). I know of two ways to un jam it. The first is to hold the camera in one hand, and smack the bottom of it into the heel of your other hand. The other way is to lift the shutter curtain (leaves) and let them drop back down. You can use a toothpick or a thin pick to lift it. BR From: Stephanie Stiavetti ...the mirror is stuck in the up position and replacing the batteries hasn't fixed the problem. I tried to gently dislodge the mirror and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops right back up. neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are functioning.
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Well, if the jam is due to the shutter cycle not finishing, then it may not apply since the MX has a completly different shutter than the ME Super. BR From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Cotty, As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer? vbg -frank
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
Hi, Bruce, I know (that's why I put the little disclaimer in there) that the shutters are different. I just thought it was a cheap and easy thing to try. Wouldn't hurt, although might not help either. My response to Cotty was just a joke... vbg cheers, frank Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Well, if the jam is due to the shutter cycle not finishing, then it may not apply since the MX has a completly different shutter than the ME Super. BR From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Cotty, As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer? vbg -frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
- Original Message - From: Stephanie Stiavetti Subject: new to the list, + a repair question I tried to get one of my ME Supers to repeat your problem, unsuccessfully. If the mirror is locked up, but you cannot release the shutter, then the mechanism has come out of its sequence. You could try to finish advancing the film by opening the camera back and rolling the sprocket towards the take up spool. This might cause the shutter to complete it's cycle. Or, you could paddle its bottom, that might jar the mechanism into sequence. William Robb on to my question: I recently acquired an old, very loved, Pentax ME Super SE. the mirror is stuck in the up position and replacing the batteries hasn't fixed the problem. I tried to gently dislodge the mirror and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops right back up. neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are functioning.
RE: new to the list, + a repair question
everyone, thanks for all of your input. I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the shutter manually, and nothing has worked. I decided to take the silly thing apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will grip them. how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work? there's got to be a way. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new to the list, + a repair question - Original Message - From: Stephanie Stiavetti Subject: new to the list, + a repair question I tried to get one of my ME Supers to repeat your problem, unsuccessfully. If the mirror is locked up, but you cannot release the shutter, then the mechanism has come out of its sequence. You could try to finish advancing the film by opening the camera back and rolling the sprocket towards the take up spool. This might cause the shutter to complete it's cycle. Or, you could paddle its bottom, that might jar the mechanism into sequence. William Robb on to my question: I recently acquired an old, very loved, Pentax ME Super SE. the mirror is stuck in the up position and replacing the batteries hasn't fixed the problem. I tried to gently dislodge the mirror and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops right back up. neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are functioning.
Re: new to the list, + a repair question
- Original Message - From: Stephanie Stiavetti Subject: RE: new to the list, + a repair question everyone, thanks for all of your input. I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the shutter manually, and nothing has worked. I decided to take the silly thing apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will grip them. how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work? there's got to be a way. A drill. For the screws that are in good shape, put the screwdriver onto the screw and tap it lightly with a hard object, such as a tack hammer. This will loosen the screw so it can be removed. There are no user servicable parts inside the ME-Super, but you may have fun dismantleing it. William Robb
