Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-17 Thread Camdir

 What is a trigger winder? 

I believe this refers to the LeicaVit base mounted winder. A bit of a 
curiousity.

Kind regards

Peter Blake



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-17 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
  What is a trigger winder? 

 I believe this refers to the LeicaVit base mounted winder.

Yes.

 A bit of a
 curiousity.


Maybe, but it seems a wonderful device when you need fast film advance that
would be virtually silent.

Regards,
£ukasz





Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 15, 2003 09:36 pm, frank theriault wrote:
 Nice!

 I hate to nit-pick (and I'm not usually a nit-picker g), but it would be
 nice if the ISO range went up to 3200, but it ain't a big deal...

 60,000 yen, eh?  Anyone know what that's likely to be in US (or better yet)
 Canadian dollars?

   MSRP: 50,000Yen (w/o tax)


Divide by about 120  yen to get US$. That's not exact but it'll get you 
close.

Nick



RE: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
$400?

That's way too much over the price of a near mint
spotmatic IMHO.
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Zentena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: some bessaflex specs
 
 
 On March 15, 2003 09:36 pm, frank theriault wrote:
  Nice!
 
  I hate to nit-pick (and I'm not usually a nit-picker g), but 
 it would be
  nice if the ISO range went up to 3200, but it ain't a big deal...
 
  60,000 yen, eh?  Anyone know what that's likely to be in US (or 
 better yet)
  Canadian dollars?
 
MSRP: 50,000Yen (w/o tax)
 
 
   Divide by about 120  yen to get US$. That's not exact but 
 it'll get you 
 close.
 
 Nick
 



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 16, 2003 07:52 am, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 $400?

 That's way too much over the price of a near mint
 spotmatic IMHO.


IMHO it's both too expensive and too cheap at that price. Too expensive for 
those looking for  a cheap body to mount old lenses on. Too cheap for 
collectors or others looking at the camera for non-photographic reasons.

Nick



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread walfrido
More or less 510.00 US dollars...

Walfrido

- Original Message -
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: some bessaflex specs


 Nice!

 I hate to nit-pick (and I'm not usually a nit-picker g), but it would be
nice
 if the ISO range went up to 3200, but it ain't a big deal...

 60,000 yen, eh?  Anyone know what that's likely to be in US (or better
yet)
 Canadian dollars?

 regards,
 frank

 Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote:

  Thanks to our very own Ken Takeshita I'm forwarding some specs of the
  Bessaflex.
 
   http://camecame.ddo.jp/cosina/data/292.jpg
  
   http://camecame.ddo.jp/cosina/data/293.jpg
  
   The detail of Bessaflex is shown only in the PhotoExpo in Japan and
the
   catalogue is not available yet.
  
   BessaflexTM
   Release May/2003
  
   TTL 35mm Focal Plane Shutter Camera
   M42 (P) mount
   Focussing Screen: fixed type Microprism
   Finder view area: 95%
   DOF Preview: by pushing up SW Button beside the mount
   Shutter: Mechanical vertical run, metal focal plane shutter, 1/2000~1
  second
bulb
   Synchro: X contact (sync below 1/125 sec)
   Metering: SPD, TTL Stop down centre weighted, 3 points LED
   Metering range: EV1~EV19 (ISO100.F1.4:1 sec, F16: 1/2000sec)
   Meter reading: Push SW Button turns on the meter, meter turned off
after
   shutter release
   ISO setting: 25~1600 (1/3 step)
   Film winding: incremental winding possible, can use trigger winder
  (optional
   accessory)
   Film counter: normal, auto-reset upon opening the cover
   Power source: LR44 Alkaline Manganese x2, or SR44 Silver oxide x2
   Body outer shell: magnesium alloy (upper cover, bottom cover, rear
cover)
   Dimensions: 35.5mmW x 89mmH x 52.50mmD
   Weight: 485g (body only)
   MSRP: 50,000Yen (w/o tax)
  
 
  What I like the most it the optional trigger winder and the metal body.i
  hope the shutter is a bit less noisy than that on the rangefinder
Bessas.
 
  Regards,
  £ukasz

 --
 Honour - that virtue of the unjust!
 -Albert Camus





RE: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Zentena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 On March 16, 2003 07:52 am, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
  $400?
 
  That's way too much over the price of a near mint
  spotmatic IMHO.
 
 
   IMHO it's both too expensive and too cheap at that 
 price. Too expensive for 
 those looking for  a cheap body to mount old lenses on. Too 
 cheap for 
 collectors or others looking at the camera for 
 non-photographic reasons.

Is that list price?

tv





Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.3.16 10:57 AM, tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is that list price?

Yes,

Ken



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist


Nick Zentena wrote:
 Too cheap for
 collectors or others looking at the camera for non-photographic reasons.

Why would anyone collect a clone? Like the Bessa like cone, this is
strictly a user, and probably not as good a user as a Spotmatic. I've
purchased four Spotties on ebay in the last four years, and they're all
very nice. Two have had CLAs., and they're like brand new. Spotmatics
are easy to find and easy to fix. We don't need no f-ing clones :-).
Paul



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 16, 2003 01:29 pm, Paul Stenquist wrote:


 Why would anyone collect a clone? Like the Bessa like cone, this is
 strictly a user, and probably not as good a user as a Spotmatic. I've
 purchased four Spotties on ebay in the last four years, and they're all
 very nice. Two have had CLAs., and they're like brand new. Spotmatics
 are easy to find and easy to fix. We don't need no f-ing clones :-).


People collect anything-)) It's too expensive for just a user.

Nick



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread Jim Apilado
What is a trigger winder?
I would like to see an M-42 camera that is similar to the ESII so that I
could use my open aperture SMC Takumars.  Good Spotmatics might still be
found on eBay, but how about ES or ESII cameras?  I don't need an ES II now,
because my current ones are still functioning.  I just worry about the
electronics, that when something goes out I may not be able to have it
fixed.

Jim A.

 From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:18:25 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: some bessaflex specs
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:17:20 -0500
 
 Thanks to our very own Ken Takeshita I'm forwarding some specs of the
 Bessaflex.
 
 http://camecame.ddo.jp/cosina/data/292.jpg
 
 http://camecame.ddo.jp/cosina/data/293.jpg
 
 The detail of Bessaflex is shown only in the PhotoExpo in Japan and the
 catalogue is not available yet.
 
 BessaflexTM
 Release May/2003
 
 TTL 35mm Focal Plane Shutter Camera
 M42 (P) mount
 Focussing Screen: fixed type Microprism
 Finder view area: 95%
 DOF Preview: by pushing up SW Button beside the mount
 Shutter: Mechanical vertical run, metal focal plane shutter, 1/2000~1
 second
  bulb
 Synchro: X contact (sync below 1/125 sec)
 Metering: SPD, TTL Stop down centre weighted, 3 points LED
 Metering range: EV1~EV19 (ISO100.F1.4:1 sec, F16: 1/2000sec)
 Meter reading: Push SW Button turns on the meter, meter turned off after
 shutter release
 ISO setting: 25~1600 (1/3 step)
 Film winding: incremental winding possible, can use trigger winder
 (optional
 accessory)
 Film counter: normal, auto-reset upon opening the cover
 Power source: LR44 Alkaline Manganese x2, or SR44 Silver oxide x2
 Body outer shell: magnesium alloy (upper cover, bottom cover, rear cover)
 Dimensions: 35.5mmW x 89mmH x 52.50mmD
 Weight: 485g (body only)
 MSRP: 50,000Yen (w/o tax)
 
 
 What I like the most it the optional trigger winder and the metal body.i
 hope the shutter is a bit less noisy than that on the rangefinder Bessas.
 
 Regards,
 ?ukasz
 
 



Re: some bessaflex specs

2003-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist


Jim Apilado wrote:
 
 What is a trigger winder?
 I would like to see an M-42 camera that is similar to the ESII so that I
 could use my open aperture SMC Takumars. 

Spotmatic F. Best Spottie of all. Open ap metering, bulletproof, and
fully manual. What more cold one ask for. The only drawback is that the
meter is on when the lens cap is off. Just don't forget your lens cap.
Paul



ES ESII (was Re: some bessaflex specs)

2003-03-16 Thread Rfsindg
I bought an ES and really enjoyed the feel of it.
I ran two rolls thru it before I recognized that meter was OK, but shutter 
wasn't.
(Some pix were properly exposed, others were way fast.)
I am having it fixed now.  We'll see how it turns out.
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I would like to see an M-42 camera that is similar to the ESII so that I
  could use my open aperture SMC Takumars.  Good Spotmatics might still be
  found on eBay, but how about ES or ESII cameras?  I don't need an ES II 
now,
  because my current ones are still functioning.  I just worry about the
  electronics, that when something goes out I may not be able to have it
  fixed.