Re[2]: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
Robert, I'll try it out and let the list know how it went. Bruce Saturday, May 04, 2002, 1:36:30 AM, you wrote: RH> Bruce Dayton wrote: RH> [snip] >> Now I guess I'm going to have to try the high speed synch and see how >> well it does. Also, remember that fill flash is usually compensated >> down a stop or two, which helps bring back the guide number a bit. RH> I hope you will report back here on how it goes. There probably is an RH> MZ-S in my (distant) future. RH> Bob RH> - RH> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, RH> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to RH> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
Funny you should mention that. The last wedding I shot - last Saturday, I did the very same thing. Rather than try to deal with fill flash - which I used to do with the PZ-1p, I just had one of the bridesmaids help with a reflector. Generally worked pretty well. Bruce Friday, May 03, 2002, 5:06:03 PM, you wrote: WR> - Original Message - WR> From: Mishka WR> Subject: Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good) WR> Hey, bros, whaddaya say, are LS lenses useful >> (alas I haven't tried them - yet)? WR> Yes. I can now do outdoor fill flash portraiture with my 6x7. WR> Here is something to think about: WR> The 6x7 is very limited in it's ability to photograph using fill WR> flash. So much so that I very quickly gave up on trying. WR> Instead, I bought/ built a few reflectors, and learned how to WR> use real light. WR> Its actually pretty easy. WR> Probably not much good for reportage style photography, but the WR> 6x7 isn't much good for that either. WR> William Robb WR> - WR> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, WR> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to WR> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
Robert, That would be my guess. The likely use is for portraits in sunlight to remove shadows and add catchlights in the eyes. In that case, you are likely to only be about 10 feet away. Even a lower guide number would be sufficient. Those who use leaf shutters with fill flash are largely doing the same basic thing. That is why I am thinking that the leaf shutter is not very necessary for the 35mm. When a more powerful version of the AF360FGZ comes out, then we're talking! That would be a much bigger seller than a leaf shutter lens. Now I guess I'm going to have to try the high speed synch and see how well it does. Also, remember that fill flash is usually compensated down a stop or two, which helps bring back the guide number a bit. Bruce Friday, May 03, 2002, 4:53:48 PM, you wrote: RH> Bruce Dayton wrote: >> Mishka, >> >> What are you needing 1/1000 flash synch for? Would not the MZ-S and >> AF360FGZ do the job you are asking for? It can synch up to 1/6000. Or >> is flash distance a problem? RH> Has anybody actually used this feature, who can tell us how it works in RH> the real world? Haven't seen any discussion of that. RH> I assume it reduces the guide number (i.e., distance) by quite a bit. I RH> recall that Olympus had a flash like this years ago, and its guide RH> number was extremely low when in high-shutter-speed mode, much reduced RH> from normal operation. RH> Bob RH> - RH> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, RH> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to RH> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
Mishka, What are you needing 1/1000 flash synch for? Would not the MZ-S and AF360FGZ do the job you are asking for? It can synch up to 1/6000. Or is flash distance a problem? Bruce Friday, May 03, 2002, 2:22:51 PM, you wrote: M> Bill, you have missed my point. M> I have never argued for LS-only SLR. I want to have LS lenses ON TOP of M> what SLR already has, just like 6x7 does. That would give me 1/8000 (or M> whatever) max speed when I need it (if anyone needs *that*) and 1/1000 M> sync when I need it (which is often). M> Oly p&s was simply an example that a 35mm reasonably fast LS lens *is M> not* a technical difficulty. M> M> For some reason I see SLR manufacturers competing adding tons of more M> or less useless (or, I should probably say, highly specialized) M> features (eg, 12fps motors) when there are some obvious enhancements M> that would benefit a huge segment of users, but no one seems to care. M> What are those marketing guys paid for? I hope someone from Pentax M> reads this M> >> From: Bill D. Casselberry >> Subject: Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good) >> Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 13:31:18 -0700 >> >> >> >> Mishka wrote: >> >> > For those saying it's difficult: >> > Olympus Stylus Epic, street price $100 for the whole camera, >> > 35mm/2.8 lens, shutter 4-1/1000s. >> >> Yeah, but like all the P&S mentioned - these are all >> separate viewfinder type cameras. If you want TTL viewing >> you need the mirror box and an open leaf shutter which then >> mandates a second focal plane shutter or some other mechanism >> to keep light off the film 'til you actually shoot. >> >> Bill M> Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness M> http://health.yahoo.com M> - M> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, M> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to M> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
