RE: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-18 Thread Don Sanderson
Other than giving a one year warranty, I couldn't get an answer
from them as to whether the compound element that fails has been
changed in any way.
Many of these took several years to fail, so only time would tell.

Don 

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> mike wilson
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> Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
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> 
> > 
> > From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2006/07/15 Sat PM 08:33:14 GMT
> > To: "PDML" 
> > Subject: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
> > 
> > As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
> > Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
> > the FA 28-70 lens.
> > Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.
> > 
> > Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
> > Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
> > The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
> > Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.
> > 
> > Don
> 
> Is it a "permanent" fix?
> 
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Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-18 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/07/15 Sat PM 08:33:14 GMT
> To: "PDML" 
> Subject: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
> 
> As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
> Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
> the FA 28-70 lens.
> Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.
> 
> Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
> Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
> The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
> Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.
> 
> Don

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RE: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-17 Thread Eugene Homme
Not directly related to Don Sanderson's element separation problem, but over
on the DPreview Pentax DSLR forum is a posting by a gentleman who did a 
complete teardown of this lens in order to correct a sticky aperture
problem. I thought I'd pass that along to tie the two pieces of information
regarding this lens together. See
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=19232758.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P.
J. Alling
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

Don,
I did a little poking around, the last MSRP for this lens was $345.00, 
which gave it a street price between $150.00 and $225.00 in my 
experience.  I've seen them go on e-bay for as much as $125.00,  not 
recently, but the element separation problem has been getting a fair 
amount of word of mouth.  About the lack of sharpness on digital I have 
no real clue, except that one of the symptoms, (in my copy of the lens 
at least), that the separation had begun, was the the photos made with 
it weren't as sharp as previously.   It is kind of what you would expect 
from a developing cataract, which is what my lens looks like it has now.

-Peter

Don Sanderson wrote:

>Hi Peter, the last new prices I remember were in the $200-$225
>range.
>I wouldn't mind the price except all of the samples I've tried on
>the ist-D gave very mediocre results.
>Being a glutton for punishment I've bought seven of these little
>devils looking for a good one. ;-)
>Even the perfect looking ones gave pretty disappointing results on
>the digi.
>It's hard to get more than $75-90 for them so I don't know if it's
>worth the investment.
>I was rather hoping Pentax would admit to their construction flaw
>and offer a bit better deal.
>No such luck though.
>This was one of the original Japanese made ones so I might go
>ahead anyway.
>Rather irks me though that THK CLA'd my ATX 80-200/2.8 for less
>that amount.
>
>Don
>
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>P. J. Alling
>>Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:18 PM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
>>
>>
>>If they're going to rebuild the whole lens it's more than worth it.  The 
>>lens had a list price of about $400. if I remember correctly.  The 
>>repair cost they're quoting you is very reasonable.  I expected it to 
>>cost more than $100.00 it looks like I'll be calling Pentax next week.
>>
>>Don Sanderson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
>>>Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
>>>the FA 28-70 lens.
>>>Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.
>>>
>>>Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
>>>Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
>>>The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
>>>Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Don,
I did a little poking around, the last MSRP for this lens was $345.00, 
which gave it a street price between $150.00 and $225.00 in my 
experience.  I've seen them go on e-bay for as much as $125.00,  not 
recently, but the element separation problem has been getting a fair 
amount of word of mouth.  About the lack of sharpness on digital I have 
no real clue, except that one of the symptoms, (in my copy of the lens 
at least), that the separation had begun, was the the photos made with 
it weren't as sharp as previously.   It is kind of what you would expect 
from a developing cataract, which is what my lens looks like it has now.

-Peter

Don Sanderson wrote:

>Hi Peter, the last new prices I remember were in the $200-$225
>range.
>I wouldn't mind the price except all of the samples I've tried on
>the ist-D gave very mediocre results.
>Being a glutton for punishment I've bought seven of these little
>devils looking for a good one. ;-)
>Even the perfect looking ones gave pretty disappointing results on
>the digi.
>It's hard to get more than $75-90 for them so I don't know if it's
>worth the investment.
>I was rather hoping Pentax would admit to their construction flaw
>and offer a bit better deal.
>No such luck though.
>This was one of the original Japanese made ones so I might go
>ahead anyway.
>Rather irks me though that THK CLA'd my ATX 80-200/2.8 for less
>that amount.
>
>Don
>
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>P. J. Alling
>>Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:18 PM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
>>
>>
>>If they're going to rebuild the whole lens it's more than worth it.  The 
>>lens had a list price of about $400. if I remember correctly.  The 
>>repair cost they're quoting you is very reasonable.  I expected it to 
>>cost more than $100.00 it looks like I'll be calling Pentax next week.
>>
>>Don Sanderson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
>>>Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
>>>the FA 28-70 lens.
>>>Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.
>>>
>>>Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
>>>Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
>>>The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
>>>Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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>>  Run in circles, (scream and shout).
>>
>>
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RE: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-15 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Peter, the last new prices I remember were in the $200-$225
range.
I wouldn't mind the price except all of the samples I've tried on
the ist-D gave very mediocre results.
Being a glutton for punishment I've bought seven of these little
devils looking for a good one. ;-)
Even the perfect looking ones gave pretty disappointing results on
the digi.
It's hard to get more than $75-90 for them so I don't know if it's
worth the investment.
I was rather hoping Pentax would admit to their construction flaw
and offer a bit better deal.
No such luck though.
This was one of the original Japanese made ones so I might go
ahead anyway.
Rather irks me though that THK CLA'd my ATX 80-200/2.8 for less
that amount.

Don


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> P. J. Alling
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:18 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
> 
> 
> If they're going to rebuild the whole lens it's more than worth it.  The 
> lens had a list price of about $400. if I remember correctly.  The 
> repair cost they're quoting you is very reasonable.  I expected it to 
> cost more than $100.00 it looks like I'll be calling Pentax next week.
> 
> Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> >As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
> >Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
> >the FA 28-70 lens.
> >Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.
> >
> >Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
> >Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
> >The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
> >Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.
> >
> >Don
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
If they're going to rebuild the whole lens it's more than worth it.  The 
lens had a list price of about $400. if I remember correctly.  The 
repair cost they're quoting you is very reasonable.  I expected it to 
cost more than $100.00 it looks like I'll be calling Pentax next week.

Don Sanderson wrote:

>As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
>Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
>the FA 28-70 lens.
>Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.
>
>Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
>Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
>The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
>Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.
>
>Don
>
>  
>


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Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-15 Thread Don Sanderson
As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
the FA 28-70 lens.
Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.

Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.

Don

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