Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Apr 29, 2010, at 14:27 , David J Brooks wrote:


I have those progression zoom glasses, which are basically one big bi
focal, but its the floaties that really give me a hard time. I have to
blink and or move my eyes almost constantly to keep them from the
centre of my eyes.


Hear hear.  PITA

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Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-30 Thread David Mann
I must have missed the quoted post.  I often use my macro lens for non-macro 
work and I find the AF to be very useful.  It has a distance limiter which 
helps to limit any hunting.  Saves me from having to buy a non-macro 100mm :)

Cheers,
Dave

On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:58 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

 I am certainly glad that you are physically sound enough to use a manual 
 focus macro (or any MF lens at all).  There are those of us where being 
 visually or physically disabled have severe problems with MF lenses.  I 
 suppose it might be helpful if you looked beyond beyond yourself before 
 calling others ridiculous.
 
 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO, autofocus on a macro lens is ridiculous.
 The greatest value in macro lenses that I have seen is the Tamron SP
 90mm f2.5 (either 52B or 52BB). WHAT a lens for very little money.
 You'll need the matched Tamron converter (or any good 7 element macro
 converter) to reach 1:1. Alternately, use an extension tube.


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Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread Jerry in Arizona
I am certainly glad that you are physically sound enough to use a manual focus 
macro (or any MF lens at all).  There are those of us where being visually or 
physically disabled have severe problems with MF lenses.  I suppose it might be 
helpful if you looked beyond beyond yourself before calling others ridiculous.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO, autofocus on a macro lens is ridiculous.
 The greatest value in macro lenses that I have seen is the Tamron SP
 90mm f2.5 (either 52B or 52BB). WHAT a lens for very little money.
 You'll need the matched Tamron converter (or any good 7 element macro
 converter) to reach 1:1. Alternately, use an extension tube.


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Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread CheekyGeek
My apologies to any who were offended my my choice of words. For the
record, I was calling no person ridiculous.
I can certainly empathize with anyone who has special needs. However,
most people are not in that category, and yet feel that they MUST have
autofocus. It is like those without the need all feeling they need to
park in the handicapped parking spot. If one does not have special
needs, I encourage them to open their minds to manual focus lenses, if
they have not already done so.

If you are an able-bodied person who regularly parks in handicapped
parking spots and are offended by this post, I apologize in advance.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE



On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am certainly glad that you are physically sound enough to use a manual 
 focus macro (or any MF lens at all).  There are those of us where being 
 visually or physically disabled have severe problems with MF lenses.  I 
 suppose it might be helpful if you looked beyond beyond yourself before 
 calling others ridiculous.

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO, autofocus on a macro lens is ridiculous.
 The greatest value in macro lenses that I have seen is the Tamron SP
 90mm f2.5 (either 52B or 52BB). WHAT a lens for very little money.
 You'll need the matched Tamron converter (or any good 7 element macro
 converter) to reach 1:1. Alternately, use an extension tube.


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Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Darren,
You have to be careful.
Just because your vision works perfectly, it's no reason to trash Autofocus.
I've needed glasses for nearsightedness (+8 diopters) and an astigmatism,
plus floaters (no help from the glasses), and now bifocals for reading.
Making pictures in sharp focus has always been a challenge,
and autofocus helps...even with the DFA100/2.8 Macro on the K-7.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 My apologies to any who were offended my my choice of words. For the
 record, I was calling no person ridiculous.
 I can certainly empathize with anyone who has special needs. However,
 most people are not in that category, and yet feel that they MUST have
 autofocus. It is like those without the need all feeling they need to
 park in the handicapped parking spot. If one does not have special
 needs, I encourage them to open their minds to manual focus lenses, if
 they have not already done so.

 If you are an able-bodied person who regularly parks in handicapped
 parking spots and are offended by this post, I apologize in advance.

 Darren Addy
 Kearney, NE



 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 I am certainly glad that you are physically sound enough to use a manual 
 focus macro (or any MF lens at all).  There are those of us where being 
 visually or physically disabled have severe problems with MF lenses.  I 
 suppose it might be helpful if you looked beyond beyond yourself before 
 calling others ridiculous.

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO, autofocus on a macro lens is ridiculous.
 The greatest value in macro lenses that I have seen is the Tamron SP
 90mm f2.5 (either 52B or 52BB). WHAT a lens for very little money.
 You'll need the matched Tamron converter (or any good 7 element macro
 converter) to reach 1:1. Alternately, use an extension tube.


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Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread David J Brooks
I have those progression zoom glasses, which are basically one big bi
focal, but its the floaties that really give me a hard time. I have to
blink and or move my eyes almost constantly to keep them from the
centre of my eyes.

Real PITA

Dave

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Darren,
 You have to be careful.
 Just because your vision works perfectly, it's no reason to trash Autofocus.
 I've needed glasses for nearsightedness (+8 diopters) and an astigmatism,
 plus floaters (no help from the glasses), and now bifocals for reading.
 Making pictures in sharp focus has always been a challenge,
 and autofocus helps...even with the DFA100/2.8 Macro on the K-7.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 My apologies to any who were offended my my choice of words. For the
 record, I was calling no person ridiculous.
 I can certainly empathize with anyone who has special needs. However,
 most people are not in that category, and yet feel that they MUST have
 autofocus. It is like those without the need all feeling they need to
 park in the handicapped parking spot. If one does not have special
 needs, I encourage them to open their minds to manual focus lenses, if
 they have not already done so.

 If you are an able-bodied person who regularly parks in handicapped
 parking spots and are offended by this post, I apologize in advance.

 Darren Addy
 Kearney, NE



 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 I am certainly glad that you are physically sound enough to use a manual 
 focus macro (or any MF lens at all).  There are those of us where being 
 visually or physically disabled have severe problems with MF lenses.  I 
 suppose it might be helpful if you looked beyond beyond yourself before 
 calling others ridiculous.

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO, autofocus on a macro lens is ridiculous.
 The greatest value in macro lenses that I have seen is the Tamron SP
 90mm f2.5 (either 52B or 52BB). WHAT a lens for very little money.
 You'll need the matched Tamron converter (or any good 7 element macro
 converter) to reach 1:1. Alternately, use an extension tube.


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Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread Jerry in Arizona
To those of us who need/appreciate the technology even AF itself is far from 
ridiculous.

 My apologies to any who were offended my my choice of words. For the
 record, I was calling no person ridiculous.


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RE: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread J.C. O'Connell
One of the things I like about manual focus
is the shutter lag is way shorter than AF.

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Re: Ridiculous AF Macro

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30/04/2010, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 One of the things I like about manual focus
 is the shutter lag is way shorter than AF.

It just depends how you use AF, if you use the AF button on the rear
as a pre-focus with an AF then you're effectively in the same boat as
using a manual focus lens WRT lag (or maybe better off due to the
focus assist)

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