Re: SDM repair complete

2010-02-06 Thread Thibouille
Adam, I'm afraid micro motors do not permits full time MF correction per se.
Canon uses (used?) cheap micro motors as well in a couple lenses like
Canon 50/1.8 and thiose lenses do NOT provide manual focus override
but using the AF/MF switch on the lens.

AFAIR, the Tokina/Tamron with built-in motors do not permit MF override either.

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Re: SDM repair complete

2010-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, you can do full-time MF with micro-motors, you just need to
use a clutch mechanism like the Canon 50/1.4 USM uses. IIRC the
micro-motor SDM lenses do this also (and it's the same setup as with
the screwdriver DA lenses with QSF). There is no inherent FTM focusing
unlike with ring-type USM.

-Adam

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Adam, I'm afraid micro motors do not permits full time MF correction per se.
 Canon uses (used?) cheap micro motors as well in a couple lenses like
 Canon 50/1.8 and thiose lenses do NOT provide manual focus override
 but using the AF/MF switch on the lens.

 AFAIR, the Tokina/Tamron with built-in motors do not permit MF override 
 either.

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Re: SDM repair complete

2010-02-05 Thread Carlos R



Adam Maas escribió:



Is Pentax using Micromotors in all SDM lenses? Or just the dual-drive
DA*'s and the 17-70.

Note that ring-motors aren't inherently better, they're potentially
faster and have full-time manual focus built-in, at a major cost in
size. Micro-motors are much smaller.



AFAIK, all the first SDM lenses use micromotors. I don't know if the 
more recent models use ring motors, but I doubt it.


Carlos

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Re: SDM repair complete

2010-02-04 Thread Carlos R



John Celio escribió:
Hopefully the technician didn't 
shoehorn a Sigma motor in there somehow. ;)




Sigma uses ring motors in their HSM lenses. They are better than than 
the micro motors Pentax use in SDM lenses, I'm afraid.


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Re: SDM repair complete

2010-02-04 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es wrote:


 John Celio escribió:

 Hopefully the technician didn't shoehorn a Sigma motor in there somehow.
 ;)


 Sigma uses ring motors in their HSM lenses. They are better than than the
 micro motors Pentax use in SDM lenses, I'm afraid.

 Carlos


Is Pentax using Micromotors in all SDM lenses? Or just the dual-drive
DA*'s and the 17-70.

Note that ring-motors aren't inherently better, they're potentially
faster and have full-time manual focus built-in, at a major cost in
size. Micro-motors are much smaller.

The only maker to use both types of motors and differentiate between
them is Sony btw, with all SSM lenses being ring-type USM and all SAM
lenses being micro-motor USM. Sigma does micro-motor AF and ring-type
USM, but no micro-motor USM. Nikon doesn't differentiate and Canon
differentiates by the presence of a DoF/focus distance scale (with the
50/1.4 USM being a special case), Tokina and Tamron just don't do USM
at all.

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SDM repair complete

2010-02-03 Thread John Celio
Just got my DA* 16-50 back from Pentax's outsourced service center (C.R.I.S. 
Camera Service, in Arizona).  They did a terrible packing job with the lens, 
letting it float free in a box of styrofoam peanuts that wasn't completely 
full.  UPS managed to smash up the box pretty bad, but thankfully didn't 
appear to hit the lens itself.  Front element had a weird, oily haze on it. 
Might have been from the plastic bag the lens was in.  Cleaned up alright, 
thankfully.


Mounted the lens and the SDM worked immediately (you may recall my lens used 
to take 10-20 seconds for the SDM motor to activate previously).  The AF 
even seems a little faster than before.  Woo!  Receipt said they replaced 
the HSM (Hyper Sonic Motor).  Hopefully the technician didn't shoehorn a 
Sigma motor in there somehow. ;)


John

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Re: SDM repair complete

2010-02-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: John Celio

Subject: SDM repair complete



they replaced
the HSM (Hyper Sonic Motor).  Hopefully the technician didn't shoehorn a 
Sigma motor in there somehow.



Are you sure about that?

William Robb 



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