Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
On 3/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Cotty, >I can bring a couple of prints of the largest size I can muster. Please do Jostein - I have seen some folks and they are real nice. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Cotty, I can bring a couple of prints of the largest size I can muster. Currently I have an A4, but there's always the labs. Mark, I have also noticed what you describe in some circumstances. Notably when the scene contains finer detail than the *istD can resolve, such as grassy fields, canopy, etc. But I don't think that's particularly the *istD. Jim Brandenburg has a couple of shots in his nature calendar "looking for summer" that exhibits the same thing. Examples are day 2, 5, 9 and especially day 12. Hope these links work: http://www.jimbrandenburg.com/days_of_summer/htmls_days_of_summer/day_02.html http://www.jimbrandenburg.com/days_of_summer/htmls_days_of_summer/day_05.html http://www.jimbrandenburg.com/days_of_summer/htmls_days_of_summer/day_09.html http://www.jimbrandenburg.com/days_of_summer/htmls_days_of_summer/day_12.html What I would like to know, though, is whether this is a software problem or not I have a hunch that this isn't entirely caused by the resolution limits. Cheers, Jostein Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 3/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >Nonetheless, I am disappointed with the large print from the *ist-D. The > >tree trunks have a plastic look to them - they do not have the rich detail > >that they have in the film version of this shot. Also, there are several > >places in the digital image where the distant patchwork of leafless twigs > >just melts into a gray haze, while in the film version the branches retain > >their integrity. Lastly, the acutance of the branches against the sky is > >exaggerated in the digital print, and looks weird when you look closely at > >the large print. > > If all the DSLR users (who will be attending GFM NPW) want to bring a > large print along, so will I. It's appreciated that different printers > and different ways of doing things will result in a pretty mixed bag, but > it would be interesting and I for one would love to hear of others' > workflows. > > Something with a good tonal range, areas with plenty of detail, other > areas with soft focus. Mine will be rolled up in a cardboard tube. I'll > bring a few. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
On 3/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Nonetheless, I am disappointed with the large print from the *ist-D. The >tree trunks have a plastic look to them - they do not have the rich detail >that they have in the film version of this shot. Also, there are several >places in the digital image where the distant patchwork of leafless twigs >just melts into a gray haze, while in the film version the branches retain >their integrity. Lastly, the acutance of the branches against the sky is >exaggerated in the digital print, and looks weird when you look closely at >the large print. If all the DSLR users (who will be attending GFM NPW) want to bring a large print along, so will I. It's appreciated that different printers and different ways of doing things will result in a pretty mixed bag, but it would be interesting and I for one would love to hear of others' workflows. Something with a good tonal range, areas with plenty of detail, other areas with soft focus. Mine will be rolled up in a cardboard tube. I'll bring a few. BTW, y'all been hearing about BA flight 223 being cancelled a couple of times at Heathrow this week, the 3pm to Washington Dulles? You guessed it: I'm booked on it, although not til June. British Intelligence were tipped off when they saw these overweight blokes waiting to board. 'Excuse me sir, is this your bit of wire that just dropped out of your overcoat?' Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
"Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark, do you have a printer at home that is capable of printing 12x18?!?! >Or do you have a lab nearby that is able to make one quickly? Or do you run >a business yourself? Sorry for the barrage of questions, I was just amazed >that you said you were shooting today and that you already had a 12x18 >print! I think quite a few of us have printers at home that can do 12 x 18. Mine is an Epson 1270. Cost less than $500.00 several years ago. It's long since paid for itself. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
I shot a baptismal ceremony and had Ofoto (www.ofoto.com) do a 20" x 30" print. I shot the whole ceremony with the D60 in RAW mode. I and the whole family were very happy with the results. I did some minor work in Adobe Camera RAW and sized the resulting image for 20 x 30 in jpeg format. Made about a 4MB file which I uploaded to Ofoto. Cost of the print, including shipping, was about $25(U.S.). I'm going to do the same with an *ist D image when I get the opportunity. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Hi Tanya - The trails are still there but very faint - I guess because last year they had been covered in snow for a while and got tramped down a bit. As I was walking away yesterday a guy came ripping along on a small 4 wheel ATV, appearing in what would be the upper right of the shot - so the trails are still in use! - MCC At 03:04 PM 1/3/2004 +1000, you wrote: Mark, wear did the trails go?!? Cool shots, btw... tan. - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet > The first one was shot on Royal Gold 400, so it's hard to say what the > colors were exactly like. But the first shot (last year) was taken during > a January thaw after a few inches of snow had melted, during a very dark > and over cast day. This winter has seen no snow and it was in the 50's > today - so the leaves on the ground were not tamped down - and there was > actual sunlight shining through a high overcast today. So the colors were > different, though I'd say the contrast levels are more the results of > lighting and media. > > - MCC > > At 08:18 PM 1/2/2004 -0800, you wrote: > >Are the colors in the two scenes really as different as the photos show? > > > >Mark Cassino wrote: > > > > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP2100_sm.jpg > > > > > http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/landscapes/0308land05.htm > > > > > > > > > - > > Mark Cassino Photography > > Kalamazoo, MI > > http://www.markcassino.com > > - > - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
I'm using an Epson 2000P (really should upgrade to the 2200 someday.) Epson makes several models - from the 1280, 2000p, 2200 - many more I'm sure - that can do 12 x 18 on a 13 x 19 "Super B / Super A3" sheet of paper. Some models of HP's printers can handle the same size - don't know about other brands. Per print cost is much less expensive than most labs and you can retain total control over the output. - MCC At 03:10 PM 1/3/2004 +1000, you wrote: Mark, do you have a printer at home that is capable of printing 12x18?!?! Or do you have a lab nearby that is able to make one quickly? Or do you run a business yourself? Sorry for the barrage of questions, I was just amazed that you said you were shooting today and that you already had a 12x18 print! tan. - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
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- Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" Subject: Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet > Bill, does this mean that Mark works at, or runs/owns a lab? Don't know. Mark is one of the people I would like to know personally, not one of the ones that I do know personally. Come to think of it, that applies to everyone on this mailing list. William Robb
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Bill, does this mean that Mark works at, or runs/owns a lab? Bill said: > The lab I work at can go as big as 12x18 from digital. > The first 12x18 print I did from my ist D was printed within about 15 > minutes of being shot. > > William Robb > > tan.
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
- Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" Subject: Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet > Mark, do you have a printer at home that is capable of printing 12x18?!?! > Or do you have a lab nearby that is able to make one quickly? Or do you run > a business yourself? Sorry for the barrage of questions, I was just amazed > that you said you were shooting today and that you already had a 12x18 > print! The lab I work at can go as big as 12x18 from digital. The first 12x18 print I did from my ist D was printed within about 15 minutes of being shot. William Robb
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Mark, do you have a printer at home that is capable of printing 12x18?!?! Or do you have a lab nearby that is able to make one quickly? Or do you run a business yourself? Sorry for the barrage of questions, I was just amazed that you said you were shooting today and that you already had a 12x18 print! tan.
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Mark, wear did the trails go?!? Cool shots, btw... tan. - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet > The first one was shot on Royal Gold 400, so it's hard to say what the > colors were exactly like. But the first shot (last year) was taken during > a January thaw after a few inches of snow had melted, during a very dark > and over cast day. This winter has seen no snow and it was in the 50's > today - so the leaves on the ground were not tamped down - and there was > actual sunlight shining through a high overcast today. So the colors were > different, though I'd say the contrast levels are more the results of > lighting and media. > > - MCC > > At 08:18 PM 1/2/2004 -0800, you wrote: > >Are the colors in the two scenes really as different as the photos show? > > > >Mark Cassino wrote: > > > > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP2100_sm.jpg > > > > > http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/landscapes/0308land05.htm > > > > > > > > > - > > Mark Cassino Photography > > Kalamazoo, MI > > http://www.markcassino.com > > - >
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
The first one was shot on Royal Gold 400, so it's hard to say what the colors were exactly like. But the first shot (last year) was taken during a January thaw after a few inches of snow had melted, during a very dark and over cast day. This winter has seen no snow and it was in the 50's today - so the leaves on the ground were not tamped down - and there was actual sunlight shining through a high overcast today. So the colors were different, though I'd say the contrast levels are more the results of lighting and media. - MCC At 08:18 PM 1/2/2004 -0800, you wrote: Are the colors in the two scenes really as different as the photos show? Mark Cassino wrote: > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP2100_sm.jpg > http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/landscapes/0308land05.htm > - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Are the colors in the two scenes really as different as the photos show? Mark Cassino wrote: > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP2100_sm.jpg > http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/landscapes/0308land05.htm >
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ooops - here's the *ist-D image I printed large: http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP2100_sm.jpg - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
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I went out shooting today and a made a 12 x 18 print of a scene shot with the *ist D. I have mixed impressions, but must admit that I shot a scene that I knew would challenge the digital format. Here's a small image of the shot: If it looks familiar, that's because I shot the same location just about a year ago: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/landscapes/0308land05.htm I don't think one can really compare images taken almost a year apart, even if they are of the same place. I did a lot of work on the first image and printed several copies, and today did a quick touch up on the digital image and ran off one quick 12 x 18 print. Nonetheless, I am disappointed with the large print from the *ist-D. The tree trunks have a plastic look to them - they do not have the rich detail that they have in the film version of this shot. Also, there are several places in the digital image where the distant patchwork of leafless twigs just melts into a gray haze, while in the film version the branches retain their integrity. Lastly, the acutance of the branches against the sky is exaggerated in the digital print, and looks weird when you look closely at the large print. So, my first impression of a large print from the *ist-D is not so great. I suspect that in the case of close up shots - where edge definition is more improtant that resolution - things will flip the other way. FWIW - I shot several shots side by side with the *ist-D and Mz-S loaded with velvia today. Hope to do a more thorough (and valid) comparison next week 9when I get the vevlia back from the lab.) - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
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Hi Bruce. Thanks. Jeff,Frank,David Chang-Sang and myself also saw a similar sized print(from a D100) at Downtown camera at our last TOpdml meet. It sure was impressive, and knowing the sensors were the same,made me think even harder.:-) But i am still amazed at the print from a sensor 1.8 mp's lower than the *istD.Thats what made be think,and ask the question. Dave > Dave, > > I saw at my lab a 20X30 done on a D100 - same sensor as the *istD. > Looked pretty darn good. I have a sneaking feeling that a 67 neg > would have done better. I plan to blow something up that big soon. > I'll let you know how it goes. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce
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Bruce Dayton wrote: > I saw at my lab a 20X30 done on a D100 - same sensor as the *istD. > Looked pretty darn good. The biggest 6MP print I've seen so far is 12x18" and I was quite impressed. It came off a Canon 10D. On the subject of big prints, I'm starting to covet the not-yet-released Epson 4000... boy do I need a better scanner. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? I do 8"x12" pics daily, and about twice a week I do 12"x18". The results are quite impressive and I am sure you could press it to 20"x30", but if I was going that size, I would be using a MF camera. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
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I had one print done at 16x24 (40x60cm) and at that size you can somehow 'see the end', so to speak. The print looks very, very good, though. Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2003 09:30 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet Hi all. Happy New Year to all. Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H had been released in Canada yet.Yes it has i was told,and she went and grabbed a poster sized print.I forgot to ask,but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. WOW.Just stunning.Great colour and detail(and its only 4.2mp) I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in their raw software. Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? Just curious is all Dave
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. > >I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the >D2H >had been released in Canada yet. Yes it has i was told, and she went and grabbed a >poster >sized print. I forgot to ask, but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. > >Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. > >WOW. Just stunning. Great colour and detail (and its only 4.2mp) > >I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in >their raw software. Rule of thumb: "Never believe *anything* a salesman tells you" ;-) >Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? I've made a 12 x 18 inch print from one of the test shots I took with an *ist-D in August. Looks great. That's the biggest size I find acceptable with 35mm film and I think 6MP digital is just slightly behind for landscape shots with lots of textures and detail. Of course, my experience with the *ist-D consists of just that one afternoon of shooting - I haven't bought one yet. Others with more experience will have opinions to offer. (But I *am* going to get an *ist-D!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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I've seen one about that size from one of the photos on the Pentax web site. Absolutely stunning! I did an 11x14 from the Optio S using genuine fractals and was impressed with it considering it only started out at 3.2 Mb Bill - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 3:30 AM Subject: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet > > Hi all. > Happy New Year to all. > > Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. > > I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H > had been > released in Canada yet.Yes it has i was told,and she went and grabbed a poster sized > print.I forgot to > ask,but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. > > Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. > > WOW.Just stunning.Great colour and detail(and its only 4.2mp) > > I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in > their raw > software. > > Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? > > Just curious is all > > Dave > > >
Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Hi all. Happy New Year to all. Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H had been released in Canada yet.Yes it has i was told,and she went and grabbed a poster sized print.I forgot to ask,but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. WOW.Just stunning.Great colour and detail(and its only 4.2mp) I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in their raw software. Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? Just curious is all Dave
