Re: Seriously OT: Canon S60 or Sony V1 ?

2004-08-03 Thread ernreed2
Caveman wrote:
> If I were to look at Pentax, I'd consider the Optio 43WR. What I really 
> don't understand is why they have absolutely no lens protection. Mixed 
> with various keys and other objects to be found in a cavewoman's purse, 
> it would get scratched in no time.
> 
> After living for a couple of years in a purse, the Olympus is all 
> scratched around, looks really beaten. However, it works perfectly and 
> the sliding cover did a wonderful job in protecting the lens, AF 
> sensors/illuminator, viewfinder, flash and whatever is there.
> 
> Currently only Canon, Olympus and Konica/Minolta are using the sliding 
> cover design, and only for a few cameras in their lines (except Olympus 
> who really seems to enjoy it). I think this is a Good Thing (TM).
>

The Pentax Optio 550 (and, from what I can tell, its successor the 555) has a 
cover to protect the lens also. My 550 is quite scratched about the body but 
the lens looks great.

I chose the 550 over the S because I was looking for "more camera" than the S 
offered. As I regularly carry it in the front pocket of my jeans, it's 
definitely small enough for a purse. Although it's versatile enough for me most 
of the time, my four-year-old has also been able to get some nice snaps with it.

ERN



Re: Seriously OT: Canon S60 or Sony V1 ?

2004-08-02 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Caveman wrote:
> I definitely like the sliding cover method of protecting the lens/camera
> in the Oly, so I would like to see it in the digicam. Canon wins, very
> nice design for pocketable camera. However, I was attracted by the
> "nightshot" feature of the Sony. Now that's really cool, taking pics in
> the dark without anyone noticing it (no flash whatsoever, just IR).
> However, do you guys think this would be really useful or just a gadget
> that would enable wife to take me pics while snoring without waking me
> with the flash ? Anyone that found some good uses for IR "nightshots" ?

I had a DSC-F717 and DSC-F707 for over two years and hardly used the
nightshot feature.

The one cool thing is that you can shoot IR photography with it by
also using an IR filter, because the camera moves the IR-blocking
filter out of the way when you are in nightshot mode.  To prevent you
from really getting good use of this feature they also prevent it from
working in daylight by limiting exposure time to 1/60" of a second or
slower and increasing the ISO.  This means that you need to use a
strong ND filter to get IR pictures during daylight and they are still
kinda grainy.

If Sony hadn't done that (and I believe they did it because a few
years back people were using the nightshot mode of their video cameras
to see warm body parts through skin tight swimsuits) their
Nightshot-enabled cameras would be superb for IR photography.

I will say that I like the design of the Sony cameras with a
thumbwheel, and that includes the V1.  I find it very easy to operate
them in manual and semi-manual modes.  If you think you'll use those
then I'd give it a second look compared to the S60.

alex



Seriously OT: Canon S60 or Sony V1 ?

2004-08-02 Thread Caveman
Sorry for the subject, but it's all about replacing a third off topic 
camera - an Olympus Mju II. So please keep in mind this is about a 
pocketable P&S.

I definitely like the sliding cover method of protecting the lens/camera 
in the Oly, so I would like to see it in the digicam. Canon wins, very 
nice design for pocketable camera. However, I was attracted by the 
"nightshot" feature of the Sony. Now that's really cool, taking pics in 
the dark without anyone noticing it (no flash whatsoever, just IR). 
However, do you guys think this would be really useful or just a gadget 
that would enable wife to take me pics while snoring without waking me 
with the flash ? Anyone that found some good uses for IR "nightshots" ?

cheers,
caveman