Re: Square Format plus.... clearly OT

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

You'll need a 620 take up spool. I'll search around and see if I can
find one.
Paul Stenquist

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> > On 30 Dec 2001 at 16:56, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> >
> > snip
> > > could recommend a good fine grain film for me to play with
> > > in this format? (square 620)
> >
> Rob replied:
> >
> > I have a couple of Argus 75's (from way back), pretty rudimentary I know but
> > good fun all the same (and the finder is a blast). I don't believe that 620
> > film is available any longer (not here anyhow) but in any case it is just 120
> > on a different spool. If the camera came with a 620 take up spool you should be
> > OK,
>
> Ann replies:
> Oooops - no take up spool at all - nice leather case tho ;)
> HOwever I have an old exposed roll of 120 from another
> bargin
> that I could rob I guess.
>
> ROb:
>  (snip snip)
> > the 120 will float a little on the supply spigots but it will be OK. Just
> > remember to rescue your spool if you don't process the film yourself. Try some
> > Ilford FP4 Plus or Delta 100 :-)
> >
>
> ann:
> Should be able to find the Ilford at least.
> Thanks Rob!
>
> annsan
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Re: Square Format plus.... clearly OT

2001-12-31 Thread Juan J. Buhler

> While we are on the square format subject , I just picked up
> (possibly a mistake) an argus 75 TWL for $15.00 - more out
> of curiousity than anything else.  IT takes 620
> film...ergo..
> but is 620 film still called that? I'd kinda like to try
> this little antique out - anyone have any experience with it
> or
> could recommend a good fine grain film for me to play with 
> in this format?

Ann,

As others have said  already, respooling 120 in 620 spools is your best bet.
I don't think a 120 spool will fit in the Argus (I have one). You should look
for old film, sometimes you can buy it on ebay (I have a couple of rolls of
Verichrome Pan 620 dated 1963, which I got cheap on ebay so I could use the
spools) I'd offer to send you a couple of spools but I'm short on them
myself.

Once you load the camera, don't forget to cover the little red window in the
back with a piece of black tape. You'll need to uncover it every time you
advance the film, do so in the shadows.

Speaking of using old cameras, I have a nice Kodak Tourinst folder, that
takes 620 film. The coolest thing I've done with it is run a roll of 35mm
slide film, using a 620 spool as take-up, guessing the amount to wind after
each frame, and unloading it in a dark room. I got some nice slides, with the
whole width of the roll exposed. Each frame is 90x35mm, with two sets of
perforations on the sides. Who needs an X-PAN... :-)

j


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Re: Square Format plus.... clearly OT

2001-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert

On 30 Dec 2001 at 16:56, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> While we are on the square format subject , I just picked up
> (possibly a mistake) an argus 75 TWL for $15.00 - more out
> of curiousity than anything else.  IT takes 620
> film...ergo..
> but is 620 film still called that? I'd kinda like to try
> this little antique out - anyone have any experience with it
> or
> could recommend a good fine grain film for me to play with 
> in this format?

Hi Ann,

I have a couple of Argus 75's (from way back), pretty rudimentary I know but 
good fun all the same (and the finder is a blast). I don't believe that 620 
film is available any longer (not here anyhow) but in any case it is just 120 
on a different spool. If the camera came with a 620 take up spool you should be 
OK, the 120 will float a little on the supply spigots but it will be OK. Just 
remember to rescue your spool if you don't process the film yourself. Try some 
Ilford FP4 Plus or Delta 100 :-)

BTW I have one kit with the original flash, close-up lens and leatherette case.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: Square Format plus.... clearly OT

2001-12-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele

While we are on the square format subject , I just picked up
(possibly a mistake) an argus 75 TWL for $15.00 - more out
of curiousity than anything else.  IT takes 620
film...ergo..
but is 620 film still called that? I'd kinda like to try
this little antique out - anyone have any experience with it
or
could recommend a good fine grain film for me to play with 
in this format?

tanks,
annsan



aimcompute wrote:
> 
> Bob
> 
> I thought I cited the evidence in my statement. Whether it's out of
> preference or convenience, the rectangular format is demonstrably more
> prevalent.  It's everywhere you look.   I wasn't really talking about
> history, it was about what I see today.  I think even most cuneiform tablets
> I've seen in pictures were rectangular.  It was discussing more visual
> media, than art,
> 
> I'm not arguing against a square format.
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Walkden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re[2]: Square Format
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > > It seems humans have a preference for rectangular shapes in art, as Paul
> > > alluded to.  Paintings, film, prints, media, books, magazines, movie
> > > screens, are almost universally rectangular.
> >
> > > It makes one ask why?
> >
> > You need to look at a bit more art, or cite some evidence. Western
> > artists may have used predominantly rectangular frames for the last
> > 500 years but that may be for other reasons than some innate human
> > preference for rectangles. There are about 60,000 years of art preceding
> > that, and thousands of non-Western forms of art, that don't use
> rectangles.
> > Nor is the rectangle necessarily the predominant shape in Western art now.
> > It happens to be convenient and easy to make a rectangular wooden frame,
> > but go to almost any church in Europe, or to any place in the Americas or
> > Oceania or Asia where non-Western art can be seen and you'll see how
> little
> > of it is made inside a rectangle, square or otherwise.
> >
> > ---
> >
> >  Bob
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