Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-11-10 Thread Brian Campbell (PM)

  Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?
 
 I just checked with my Kodak rep, and he confirmed that T400CN has been
 discontinued.  Apparently BW+ (amateur, 24 exp.) and Portra 400BW (pro,
 36 exp.) are very, very similar emulsions; T400CN was different from both
 of them.
 
 chris

OK, now this is really wierd, the local rep at the shop
I frequent called Kodak to ask them this question, and they
denied it - they say that the T400CN is still in full production
with the BW Select being the consumer film and the 
Portra BW being the professional film that are designed to
print on color paper, and the T400CN being their C-41 film that
is designed for printing on BW Paper.  Wierd.

Brian

*still contemplating that 200-roll order...
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-31 Thread Paul Ewins

I always found T400CN awful on colour paper - the contrast was ummm
wrong - can't explain how. But when reprinted on standard Ilford MG paper it
was just great. Initially I used to get the film developed at a minilab and
used the prints as proofs, but I found that shots I had dismissed as useless
were actually worth enlarging, so the prints weren't even any good as
proofs. Now I just go for develop only when using a C41 monochrome film
and print an 8x10 proof sheet at home.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia

- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hmmm, Agfa Ultra and Agfa Portrait 160 are the same concept. But
 really, can one replace the other? T400CN was optimised for
 printing on BW paper, and printed well on colour paper. Select
 and Portra are optimised for printing on colour and RA type
 chromogenic papers. They do not print well on conventional black
 and white materials.
 At least, this has been my experience with them.
 William Robb
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-31 Thread Norman Baugher

Don't give them any ideas, I like Plus-X!!
Norm

Isaac Crawford wrote:

 Yes, but why not get rid of Plus-x or even Ektapan for God's sake? I
 have  feeling that Tri-x will be around for at least a little longer...
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-31 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 12:08  AM, Isaac Crawford wrote:

   Yes, but why not get rid of Plus-x or even Ektapan for God's sake? I
 have  feeling that Tri-x will be around for at least a little longer...


I think Ektapan is already gone.

I really don't know what Kodak are thinking sometimes.

-Aaron
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Re: T400CN Discontinued??  I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread David Brooks

Brian.No definet word but my lab owner said
he canot get any stock and is now selling
the select BW which seems to be almost
the same thing .IMHO.

Dave

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From: Brian Campbell (PM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:54:09 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: T400CN Discontinued??  I don't think so...


Hey guys,

I just checked out the Kodak website to try to confirm
the rumors that T400cn is discontinued, but nothing's
there...

Where did you get this info?  Sure the Portra 400 film
is listed as well, but this is listed as for printing on
professional color negative papers while T400CN is 
listed as for printing either on black-and-white papers
or color negative papers.

I can see that T400CN is disappearing off the normal
consumer and retail outlets, but there's still a very large
stock of it in the professional labs and pro-houses
in Vancouver.  I just bought 40 rolls in 120 and 20 rolls
in 35mm two weeks ago at my local lab, and they
still have a good stock.

Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?

Cheers,
Brian
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread RH

T400CN has been changed to BW Select available at any wal mart.

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Campbell (PM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:54 AM
Subject: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...


 Hey guys,
 
 I just checked out the Kodak website to try to confirm
 the rumors that T400cn is discontinued, but nothing's
 there...
 
 Where did you get this info?  Sure the Portra 400 film
 is listed as well, but this is listed as for printing on
 professional color negative papers while T400CN is 
 listed as for printing either on black-and-white papers
 or color negative papers.
 
 I can see that T400CN is disappearing off the normal
 consumer and retail outlets, but there's still a very large
 stock of it in the professional labs and pro-houses
 in Vancouver.  I just bought 40 rolls in 120 and 20 rolls
 in 35mm two weeks ago at my local lab, and they
 still have a good stock.
 
 Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?
 
 Cheers,
 Brian
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread Isaac Crawford

Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 
 T400CN is still readily available to us, and we have not been informed
 of any discontinuations (is that a word?) from Kodak this year aside
 from Tri-X 4x5 in 25 and 100 sheet packs.  Our last order, just two
 weeks ago, came in fine.

Tri-X is no longer availible in 100 sheet packs either?! What kind of
quantities are they expecting us to buy?

Isaac
 
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 10:06  AM, RH wrote:

 It is the same concept, a BW film processed with C41 chemicals. My local
 Dodd and Cord camera both said 400CN has been replaced by BW Select.


The film bases are quite different.  They were both available at the 
same time for ages.  BW Select is no more a replacement for T400CN than 
Supra a replacement for Portra.

-Aaron
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 11:38  AM, Isaac Crawford wrote:

   Tri-X is no longer availible in 100 sheet packs either?! What kind of
 quantities are they expecting us to buy?

They've replaced the 25s and 100s with 50s.  Of course, they made them 
quite scarce for September (the back-to-photography-school, big sellin' 
Tri-X 4x5 month) by cutting them out of the lineup in July and not 
releasing the 50s until October.  My bet says Kodak will use their low 
sales in September as a reason to discontinue the film in sheets 
alltogether next year.

Sneaky.

-Aaron
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 05:49  PM, Isaac Crawford wrote:
   God I hope not... I would think they would give us some warning by
 getting rid of less popular films first. I'd be amazed if Tri-x wasn't
 the most popular sheet film of all time...

It is certainly our top selling bw sheet film.  But remember, the fewer 
products that Kodak keeps in production, the more money they make on 
each unit.

-Aaron
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-30 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: RH
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...


 It is the same concept, a BW film processed with C41
chemicals. My local
 Dodd and Cord camera both said 400CN has been replaced by BW
Select.

Hmmm, Agfa Ultra and Agfa Portrait 160 are the same concept. But
really, can one replace the other? T400CN was optimised for
printing on BW paper, and printed well on colour paper. Select
and Portra are optimised for printing on colour and RA type
chromogenic papers. They do not print well on conventional black
and white materials.
At least, this has been my experience with them.
William Robb
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T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-29 Thread Brian Campbell (PM)

Hey guys,

I just checked out the Kodak website to try to confirm
the rumors that T400cn is discontinued, but nothing's
there...

Where did you get this info?  Sure the Portra 400 film
is listed as well, but this is listed as for printing on
professional color negative papers while T400CN is 
listed as for printing either on black-and-white papers
or color negative papers.

I can see that T400CN is disappearing off the normal
consumer and retail outlets, but there's still a very large
stock of it in the professional labs and pro-houses
in Vancouver.  I just bought 40 rolls in 120 and 20 rolls
in 35mm two weeks ago at my local lab, and they
still have a good stock.

Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?

Cheers,
Brian
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Re: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...

2001-10-29 Thread Paul Jones

Hi Brian,

The shop where i buy film had a letter from Kodak saying they had ceased
production and when there stock runs out, its gone for good.

I'm sure they probaly have a bucket load of it still storage.

Cya

- Original Message -
From: Brian Campbell (PM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: T400CN Discontinued?? I don't think so...


 Hey guys,

 I just checked out the Kodak website to try to confirm
 the rumors that T400cn is discontinued, but nothing's
 there...

 Where did you get this info?  Sure the Portra 400 film
 is listed as well, but this is listed as for printing on
 professional color negative papers while T400CN is
 listed as for printing either on black-and-white papers
 or color negative papers.

 I can see that T400CN is disappearing off the normal
 consumer and retail outlets, but there's still a very large
 stock of it in the professional labs and pro-houses
 in Vancouver.  I just bought 40 rolls in 120 and 20 rolls
 in 35mm two weeks ago at my local lab, and they
 still have a good stock.

 Anyone have any definative words on this being discontinued?

 Cheers,
 Brian
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