Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-12-01 Thread dave o'brien

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Anthony Farr wrote:

 I've seen this kind of address on some spam e-mails, and I've read that
 they are sent directly into your mail reader while online, rather than
 being downloaded from your ISP's mail server.  That's why they have the
 strange address details.  Just what I read but as I have no effing idea
 how email works I'd probably believe anything I read :)

It's the Badtrans virus.  More details available from any anti-virus site.

It comes with an executable program which pretends to be a Word document 
and does something to the registry.

dave
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Anthony Farr

I've seen this kind of address on some spam e-mails, and I've read that
they are sent directly into your mail reader while online, rather than
being downloaded from your ISP's mail server.  That's why they have the
strange address details.  Just what I read but as I have no effing idea
how email works I'd probably believe anything I read :)

I haven't had any strangely addressed e-mail come in since I installed
Sygate Personal Firewall (freeware) recently.  Before that I'd get
them regularly.  What was scary were emails with unreadable babble in
the sender and subject lines, but they turned out to be spam from Korea,
and I don't have Korean language support installed.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(snip)

 The ones that came my way were blank messages, the sender of which had
 an odd aspect to his/her email address.  The addresses looked like
this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note the underscore proceeding the actual
 address.

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RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Kent Gittings

It's known as the W32.Badtrans.B virus. It tries to pop up some kind of
control panel for something and then hangs. But it is really trying to
access your email list to replicate itself. My wife's machine got it last
week although she didn't see it. However those are the same symptoms. In my
case I saw it come in and try to make me install the Win Media module which
I squashed. then I switched Outlook to offline mode and figured out which
message it was and then finally got around to reinstalling the AV package I
have and didn't bother in my last HD upgrade. Had to upgrade to the latest
PC-cillin 2000 to get it because it won't show up in a file scan of the
drive as it is imbedded in the Outlook mail box as an undetectable
attachment (JavaScript). Had to use the PC2K special feature of scanning the
Outlook attachments to find it. Then set the scanner to check email as I
opened it. This had to be done because after rebooting and going back on
line all my last 400+ messages were redownloaded again to my desktop. this
means it is affecting the status of the Deleted Item list in Outlook. This
time when downloaded it caught it immediately.
So keep your AV tools updated.
Kent Gittings

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Viruses  Worms Everywhere


The one that got me was, I think, a script embedded in an e-mail. When I
selected the e-mail to delete it, it ran. It gave me a script cannot
complete message. Norton did not detect it.
--graywolf

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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Viruses  Worms Everywhere


 Shel,

 Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML?  I'd just like to know
 what to watch out for.

 Regards,
 Anthony Farr

 - Original Message -
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received
  eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm.  Be careful
 out
  there ...
  --
  Shel Belinkoff
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff

That's a lot of work.  Not using Outlook frees me, it seems, from having
to deal with this garbage.  

Sorry you got infected, but, just out of curiosity, if various MS
products are so susceptible to this sort of thing, why use those
products?  Is there some feature about Outlook that makes it more
desirable compared to other mail programs?

Kent Gittings wrote:
 
 It's known as the W32.Badtrans.B virus. It tries to pop up some kind of
 control panel for something and then hangs. But it is really trying to
 access your email list to replicate itself. My wife's machine got it last
 week although she didn't see it. However those are the same symptoms. In my
 case I saw it come in and try to make me install the Win Media module which
 I squashed. then I switched Outlook to offline mode and figured out which
 message it was and then finally got around to reinstalling the AV package I
 have and didn't bother in my last HD upgrade. Had to upgrade to the latest
 PC-cillin 2000 to get it because it won't show up in a file scan of the
 drive as it is imbedded in the Outlook mail box as an undetectable
 attachment (JavaScript). Had to use the PC2K special feature of scanning the
 Outlook attachments to find it. Then set the scanner to check email as I
 opened it. This had to be done because after rebooting and going back on
 line all my last 400+ messages were redownloaded again to my desktop. this
 means it is affecting the status of the Deleted Item list in Outlook. This
 time when downloaded it caught it immediately.
 So keep your AV tools updated.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html
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RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Mick Maguire

I had to remove W32.Badtrans.B virus from a machine this week too. Norton
only added this definition a few days ago (24th I believe), so if you
haven't run liveupdate since then it wont pick it up. Once I installed the
latest update it removed the virus fine. You also need to check Windows
Update (Microsoft) for a patch for the hole that this worm uses. HTH

Regards,
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RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Mick Maguire

BTW an easy way to see if you have W32.Badtrans is to check for the
existence of Kernel32.exe (that's EXE and *NOT* DLL) and kdll.dll in your
windows system directory, as those arte the virus files. You can remove the
virus by deleteting them both in safe mode. Of course you also need to
delete the offending email too.

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RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Sas Gabor

Hi,

On 30 Nov 2001 at 10:04, Kent Gittings wrote:
 In my opinion at least Outlook tends to be more intuitive than using
 the Netscape email client. 

But these are only two. Two of the most common ones, 
and obviously the ones the viruses and worms are tested on.

Personally, I'm for Pegasus Mail, but there are lots of others...

 I've used
 other products over the years but most have some limitations and as a
 result I tend to put up with the vulnerabilities. 

Which are limitations too... ;-)

 And by the way my
 wife's machine uses Netscape Communicator so it is not an Outlook
 specific virus. As long as your machine is set to execute JavaScript
 wise open it is vulnerable. 

True. HTML mail with embedded active or binary content will 
always be a risk. That's why I don't send HTML mail at all.

For the scripted mails: has anybody ever seen anything really 
useful based on this feature? 


Gabor
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-30 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

 Shel wrote:
 
 That's a lot of work.  Not using Outlook frees me, it seems,
 from having to deal with this garbage.
 
Not using WinDoze is even better. One of the benefits of
Macintosh's small market share is that these viro-nutz
don't bother attacking since the big gorilla is much
more satisfying to see brought to its knees.

my system spits out .exe's  such like so much rotted fruit


Bill

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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-29 Thread aimcompute

Norton hasn't detected any on my machine in that time frame. but I've seen
several posts on the Meade list by different people in the last several days
who were sent viruses.

Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Viruses  Worms Everywhere


 I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received
 eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm.  Be careful out
 there ...
 --
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-29 Thread Anthony Farr

Shel,

Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML?  I'd just like to know
what to watch out for.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received
 eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm.  Be careful
out
 there ...
 --
 Shel Belinkoff
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

I think my computer crash last night might have been due to a virus. Norton
is no help. The system was getting a little flaky so I ran Norton Antivirus.
It said the MBR had been changed so I selected Replace MBR and continued
to run Norton. It showed no other problems.

When it finished a You Need to Restart Windows window came up. I clicked
on OK. The computer rebooted, but came up with Can Not Find
'C:\WINDOWS|COMMAND.COM.

Checking I found the raw partitions were still there but apparently the FATs
had been erased on all four partitions including the none DOS ones.

I have been all night restoring the system. Unfortunately I have not backed
up anything since I put in the new hard drive back in October. I hadn't even
synchronized the laptop to it since 11/10 so I lost a lot of info.

But notice, Norton Antivirus reported no problems other than the changed
MBR. In fact NAV seems to have triggered the virus. So be careful.

--graywolf


- Original Message -
From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Viruses  Worms Everywhere


 Norton hasn't detected any on my machine in that time frame. but I've seen
 several posts on the Meade list by different people in the last several
days
 who were sent viruses.

 Tom C.

 - Original Message -
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:20 PM
 Subject: Viruses  Worms Everywhere


  I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received
  eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm.  Be careful out
  there ...
  --
  Shel Belinkoff
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

The one that got me was, I think, a script embedded in an e-mail. When I
selected the e-mail to delete it, it ran. It gave me a script cannot
complete message. Norton did not detect it.
--graywolf

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Viruses  Worms Everywhere


 Shel,

 Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML?  I'd just like to know
 what to watch out for.

 Regards,
 Anthony Farr

 - Original Message -
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received
  eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm.  Be careful
 out
  there ...
  --
  Shel Belinkoff
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere

2001-11-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

I've not seen anything embedded in HTML, but, in all honesty, I'm not
sure what to look for.  What I received were attachments sent, in part,
through mailing list messages.

The ones that came my way were blank messages, the sender of which had
an odd aspect to his/her email address.  The addresses looked like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note the underscore proceeding the actual
address.

In addition, I received a few pieces that were recognizable attachments
sent from email addresses of people I did business with on ebay,
although they professed no knowledge of sending the messages.

I do know that some of the messages I received came from people whose
address was part of a group mailing made by clients or friends.  I
cannot stress strongly enough that if you're going to send a message to
a group of people you should suppress the list of recipients.  I believe
it's safer, as well as just good manners.

Finally, just before reading your message, I received a message from ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Without a doubt these viruses and worms are spreading rapidly and, it
seems, are becoming more sophisticated.

Anthony Farr wrote:
 
 Shel,
 
 Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML?  I'd just like to know
 what to watch out for.
 
 Regards,
 Anthony Farr

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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