Sure - they "can be a couple of hundred miles per hour" - but were they? No attempt 
was made, no measurements either. Result: none we rescued. How much experience do you 
have about helicopters? Actually there were a couple of small helicopters flying 
around but they seemed to belong to the media. 
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

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Lähettäjä: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 14. syyskuuta 2001 23:40
Aihe: Re: Vs: OT. WTC - Why no helicopters?


>Hate to burst anyones bubble, but the updrafts in a fire like that can be a couple of 
>hundred miles
>per hour. No helicopter could operate in those, it would be blown about like a leaf.
>--graywolf
>
>
>Chris Brogden wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Raimo Korhonen wrote:
>> 
>> > I thought that there was a helicopter platform on top of one of the
>> > towers. And it would have been good to see that something was even
>> > tried to save these people.
>> 
>> I think in the aftermath of this disaster a lot of people are going to be
>> second-guessing the actions of the rescuers.  Just keep in mind that what
>> seems logical now is not always so obvious in the heat of the moment,
>> which is probably the main reason all those rescue workers lost their
>> lives when someone should have known that the building was due to
>> collapse.
>> 
>> That being said, I'm surprised that there weren't more measures in place
>> to rescue people from skyscrapers quickly.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but
>> they were able to do virtually nothing, right?  Seems to me that with all
>> our current technology we should be able to come up with some methods that
>> may save lives in the future.  How about a helicopter carrying a long
>> cable with a large cage attached to it?  Give the cage a nice padded floor
>> and a large opening and see how close you can get it to the window.  Or
>> something smaller than a parachute that would slow people's fall to the
>> ground to survivable levels?  Make it like an inflatable helium air bag
>> with a basic hand strap and belt clip and it could be very small.  Or if
>> that won't work, they should be able to make emergency parachutes pretty
>> compact by now.  I'm not saying that these are great ideas, just that we
>> need something done to help people in the future.  Boats have lifeboats;
>> why don't skyscrapers have anything other than stairs and an elevator?
>> 
>> And does concrete really insulate the steel against heat better than, say,
>> those ceramic panels used on space shuttles for re-entry?  That material
>> can't be too expensive... they make casserole dishes out of them, after
>> all.  :)
>>
>
>-- 
>Tom Rittenhouse
>Graywolf Photo
>Charlotte, NC, USA
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