Sure - they "can be a couple of hundred miles per hour" - but were they? No attempt was made, no measurements either. Result: none we rescued. How much experience do you have about helicopters? Actually there were a couple of small helicopters flying around but they seemed to belong to the media. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- Lähettäjä: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 14. syyskuuta 2001 23:40 Aihe: Re: Vs: OT. WTC - Why no helicopters? >Hate to burst anyones bubble, but the updrafts in a fire like that can be a couple of >hundred miles >per hour. No helicopter could operate in those, it would be blown about like a leaf. >--graywolf > > >Chris Brogden wrote: >> >> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Raimo Korhonen wrote: >> >> > I thought that there was a helicopter platform on top of one of the >> > towers. And it would have been good to see that something was even >> > tried to save these people. >> >> I think in the aftermath of this disaster a lot of people are going to be >> second-guessing the actions of the rescuers. Just keep in mind that what >> seems logical now is not always so obvious in the heat of the moment, >> which is probably the main reason all those rescue workers lost their >> lives when someone should have known that the building was due to >> collapse. >> >> That being said, I'm surprised that there weren't more measures in place >> to rescue people from skyscrapers quickly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but >> they were able to do virtually nothing, right? Seems to me that with all >> our current technology we should be able to come up with some methods that >> may save lives in the future. How about a helicopter carrying a long >> cable with a large cage attached to it? Give the cage a nice padded floor >> and a large opening and see how close you can get it to the window. Or >> something smaller than a parachute that would slow people's fall to the >> ground to survivable levels? Make it like an inflatable helium air bag >> with a basic hand strap and belt clip and it could be very small. Or if >> that won't work, they should be able to make emergency parachutes pretty >> compact by now. I'm not saying that these are great ideas, just that we >> need something done to help people in the future. Boats have lifeboats; >> why don't skyscrapers have anything other than stairs and an elevator? >> >> And does concrete really insulate the steel against heat better than, say, >> those ceramic panels used on space shuttles for re-entry? That material >> can't be too expensive... they make casserole dishes out of them, after >> all. :) >> > >-- >Tom Rittenhouse >Graywolf Photo >Charlotte, NC, USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .