Re: What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
Andre wrote: 35-S (and SII) are great silent cameras. Most impressive of all is the 1957 Wide-S with a 35mm f2 made of 8 elements The Olympus is the smallest 35/2 rangefinder around. Andre, Unlike the Olympus 35-S of the 1970s, the 35-S of the 1950s had no meter. Did the Wide-S have a meter? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry Paul, I was out for the weekend but glad to see Keith gave you a complete picture on meter and CRF. Personnally I don't care about having a meter for these old RF cameras. I want a stable shutter, I take note of the tested speeds for a camera and write it done on the camera (well, on a tiny piece of paper scotch taped on the camera) and use either f16 rule or an external meter. Smallest 35/2 rangefinder? By very little. But the Olympus weights 30% more... Hexar 137.5 x 76.5 x 64.5 495g Wide-S 125 x 80 x 65650g Andre --
What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
The Zuiko-G f/1.7 is legend for it's sharpness. (...) What's the coating problem? Ghosting, loss of light, flaring? keith One solution is to use a shade, which, as you know, is tricky for a RF because you see part of it in the viewfinder. And with an effective tulip hood (made out of plastic Pentax 85/2 hood for example) the camera become about twice as noticeable... Maybe a smaller hood like the old Konica ones (not much wider than the filter ring) could help and keep up with this machine's style. I only tried this lens one (with Kodachrome 64) and it is... as crisp as a fresh Melba toast. X-acto comes to mind also. Its spot metering is usefull if one remembers the different reflectance of some colors. Andre Mike Johnston wrote: Then there's always the Olympus 35 SP rangefinder, with the Zuiko-G 1.7 lens, widely considered the 'poor man's Leica,' because of it's great optical performance. It may be a great lens, but the coatings on it are so poor it's almost useless IMHO. I'll take a Canon QL-17 GIII any day (and, in fact, did). Best coatings, by rank: Pentax Zeiss Leica Canon Nikon Olympus (*sucked* until about 1988, when it caught up to C/N) --Mike --
Re: What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
I had an Olympus 35SP for a while, too -- beautiful lens and a beautiful camera. It's huge, though -- much larger than the Oly 35RD and 35RC, and larger than the Canonet QL17 GIII. The 35SP is also quite loud, at least for a rangefinder. The 35RD and 35RC, as well as rangefinders like the Canonet and Konica Auto S3, are very quiet. The 35SP has a program mode, but it doesn't let you know what shutter speed and aperture it has selected. Manual metering is possible, as is the useful spot metering, but you still have to read the EV scale in the viewfinder and transfer it to the camera. In the end, I realized that the 35SP was pretty much the same size as an MX/ME Super with a 50/1.7 lens. I traded the 35SP. I still have a 35RC, which is truly tiny, and a lovely old Olympus 35-S from the late '50s (thanks, Keith!), which has a whole different feel from the '70s rangefinders. Joe At 05:50 PM 1/24/03 -0500, you wrote: The Zuiko-G f/1.7 is legend for it's sharpness. (...) What's the coating problem? Ghosting, loss of light, flaring? keith One solution is to use a shade, which, as you know, is tricky for a RF because you see part of it in the viewfinder. And with an effective tulip hood (made out of plastic Pentax 85/2 hood for example) the camera become about twice as noticeable... Maybe a smaller hood like the old Konica ones (not much wider than the filter ring) could help and keep up with this machine's style. I only tried this lens one (with Kodachrome 64) and it is... as crisp as a fresh Melba toast. X-acto comes to mind also. Its spot metering is usefull if one remembers the different reflectance of some colors. Andre Mike Johnston wrote: Then there's always the Olympus 35 SP rangefinder, with the Zuiko-G 1.7 lens, widely considered the 'poor man's Leica,' because of it's great optical performance. It may be a great lens, but the coatings on it are so poor it's almost useless IMHO. I'll take a Canon QL-17 GIII any day (and, in fact, did). Best coatings, by rank: Pentax Zeiss Leica Canon Nikon Olympus (*sucked* until about 1988, when it caught up to C/N) --Mike --
Re: What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
I had an Olympus 35SP for a while, too -- beautiful lens and a beautiful camera. It's huge, though -- much larger than the Oly 35RD and 35RC, and larger than the Canonet QL17 GIII. The 35SP is also quite loud, at least for a rangefinder. The 35RD and 35RC, as well as rangefinders like the Canonet and Konica Auto S3, are very quiet. The 35SP has a program mode, but it doesn't let you know what shutter speed and aperture it has selected. Manual metering is possible, as is the useful spot metering, but you still have to read the EV scale in the viewfinder and transfer it to the camera. In the end, I realized that the 35SP was pretty much the same size as an MX/ME Super with a 50/1.7 lens. I traded the 35SP. I still have a 35RC, which is truly tiny, and a lovely old Olympus 35-S from the late '50s (thanks, Keith!), which has a whole different feel from the '70s rangefinders. Joe 35-S (and SII) are great silent cameras. Most impressive of all is the 1957 Wide-S with a 35mm f2 made of 8 elements. Almost no distorsion. I've tried the brickwall (only at min dist.) and a photo with straight building lines and cannot spot any distorsion. Hexar fans, hold on your hat... The Olympus is the smallest 35/2 rangefinder around. Andre --
Re: What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
A whole different feel... Hellsfire! I may end up thinking those Olys are nothing but bricks, like the Argus C-3, and put BOTH of 'em back on eBay! Sharpness isn't everything! No, I'll give them an honest chance first. But I suspect it doesn't matter if they're gone before my OptioS comes in. g Give me more time to concentrate on the Altoid camera... keith Joe Wilensky wrote: I had an Olympus 35SP for a while, too -- beautiful lens and a beautiful camera. It's huge, though -- much larger than the Oly 35RD and 35RC, and larger than the Canonet QL17 GIII. The 35SP is also quite loud, at least for a rangefinder. The 35RD and 35RC, as well as rangefinders like the Canonet and Konica Auto S3, are very quiet. The 35SP has a program mode, but it doesn't let you know what shutter speed and aperture it has selected. Manual metering is possible, as is the useful spot metering, but you still have to read the EV scale in the viewfinder and transfer it to the camera. In the end, I realized that the 35SP was pretty much the same size as an MX/ME Super with a 50/1.7 lens. I traded the 35SP. I still have a 35RC, which is truly tiny, and a lovely old Olympus 35-S from the late '50s (thanks, Keith!), which has a whole different feel from the '70s rangefinders. Joe At 05:50 PM 1/24/03 -0500, you wrote: The Zuiko-G f/1.7 is legend for it's sharpness. (...) What's the coating problem? Ghosting, loss of light, flaring? keith One solution is to use a shade, which, as you know, is tricky for a RF because you see part of it in the viewfinder. [...]
Re: What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
Been trying to get an SII, and they're quite scarce. Or more expensive than I care for... I will, tho', eventually. I need one for my collection. keith Andre Langevin wrote: I had an Olympus 35SP for a while, too -- beautiful lens and a beautiful camera. It's huge, though -- much larger than the Oly 35RD and 35RC, and larger than the Canonet QL17 GIII. The 35SP is also quite loud, at least for a rangefinder. The 35RD and 35RC, as well as rangefinders like the Canonet and Konica Auto S3, are very quiet. The 35SP has a program mode, but it doesn't let you know what shutter speed and aperture it has selected. Manual metering is possible, as is the useful spot metering, but you still have to read the EV scale in the viewfinder and transfer it to the camera. In the end, I realized that the 35SP was pretty much the same size as an MX/ME Super with a 50/1.7 lens. I traded the 35SP. I still have a 35RC, which is truly tiny, and a lovely old Olympus 35-S from the late '50s (thanks, Keith!), which has a whole different feel from the '70s rangefinders. Joe 35-S (and SII) are great silent cameras. Most impressive of all is the 1957 Wide-S with a 35mm f2 made of 8 elements. Almost no distorsion. I've tried the brickwall (only at min dist.) and a photo with straight building lines and cannot spot any distorsion. Hexar fans, hold on your hat... The Olympus is the smallest 35/2 rangefinder around. Andre --
Re: What a great place! (for a Zuiko 42mm)
Indeed, Olympus made a handful of fine 35mm fixed-lens rangefinders, but the 35 SP--and perhaps its predecessor, the 35-S--were the only fixed-lens RFs to use a 7-element, 5-group lens. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
