Wondering about Jack

2020-10-02 Thread Larry Colen
I know that he was having a tough year even before the first of the fires in 
his neighborhood, and now there’s another one.

Has anyone talked to his wife lately?

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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Never Enough!


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> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:23 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
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> > It might be fun if you could post those comments here.  
>
>
> Don’t you think I’m reviled by enough people yet?
>
> Bill
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> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
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> > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 11:24 AM Jack Davis, 
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> > >
> > > > 'Nuf said, Bill.Thanks!
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> > > > > On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Bill 
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> > > > >> On 4/20/2018 6:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> > > > >> What's the status of the PDML
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread William Robb
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:23 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
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> It might be fun if you could post those comments here.  


Don’t you think I’m reviled by enough people yet?

Bill

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> > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 11:24 AM Jack Davis,  wrote:
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> > > 'Nuf said, Bill.Thanks!
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> > > >> On 4/20/2018 6:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Jack Davis
Well, they picked an expert :-)

J

> On April 20, 2018 at 11:01 AM William Robb wrote:
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Mark
J

> On April 20, 2018 at 12:22 PM Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> It's coming along nicely, albeit slowly. I'm working on it regularly
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

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>What's the status of the PDML
>annual?

It's coming along nicely, albeit slowly. I'm working on it regularly
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It might be fun if you could post those comments here.  

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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread William Robb
It's actually in Mark's hands. All they let me do is make crass comments
about the submissions as part of the vetting process.

bill

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> 'Nuf said, Bill.Thanks!
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Jack Davis
'Nuf said, Bill.Thanks!
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Bill  wrote:
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>> On 4/20/2018 6:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
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> In production. Sorry, I don't know more.
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Re: Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Bill

On 4/20/2018 6:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


What's the status of the PDML
annual?


In production. Sorry, I don't know more.

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Wondering!

2018-04-20 Thread Jack Davis

What's the status of the PDML
annual?

J
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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-10 Thread P.J. Alling
Also if the Pixel size is smaller than the wave length of light that one 
is attempting to captured, you'll miss an awful lot of light in that 
wavelength.  (I'm not sure how perverse the universe is, I'm betting on 
maximum amount of perversity here, in that if what will benefit more one 
more in this case is if light works as a packet, so of course here it 
will act as a wave.


On 10/10/2015 12:58 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Larry, I've had that hypothesis (in the back of my mind) for a while.
Your question made me thinking in more detail about it.

On one hand the argument for why that should be possible is as follows:
 If the noise is due to the statistical uncertainty (Sqrt(N)) for the 
number of counts (N) on the detector (pixel in this case), and the 
number of counts scales with the area of the single detector (pixel), 
then by combining the output of the equivalent number of the detectors 
(or more exactly, areal coverage), we should obtain a comparable level 
of the noise to that of a large detector of the same area.
(For simplicity, let's neglect for now the "wasted" area between the 
smaller pixels that is not occupied by the pixel.)


However, that doesn't cover other (numerous) sources of noise that scale
differently (or even don't scale at all) with the sensor size.
Dissertations are written on very careful analysis of those.
(If you are interested, - look e.g. at these class notes:
https://classes.yale.edu/04-05/enas627b/lectures/EENG427l09bnoise.pdf )

But I can think of two "phenomenological" examples that demonstrate
why the sum of smaller sensors might not be as good as a single large 
one.


 1. A smaller sensor might require a fundamentally different design, 
which, in turn, produces a different level of noise (e.g. CMOS vs CCD).


 2. If noise is generated at the boundary of the sensor. (This could 
be relevant for very high-density/small pixel size sensors)
Then the combined boundary length (circumference) of the M smaller 
pixels covering the same area as one large pixel will be Sqrt(M) times 
larger then that of that single large pixel.


I am not sure if this type of "boundary" noise is actually 
happening/important in today's sensors. It might be that this type of 
effects are only relevant for much smaller (e.g. 
double-digit-nanometer-scale electronics) devices.


But in any case, - different scaling of different types of noise 
(noise sources) and different relative contribution from different 
sources at different pixel sizes can create the situation when you 
might not get a low-light-level noise from the combined pixels of a 
high-pixel-density camera sensor as low as you would get it from an 
equivalent-pixel-count lower-pixel-density camera sensor.


Igor



Larry Colen Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:10:38 -0700 wrote:

That being said, I don't understand why with a bit of math a 42 MP 
sensor could not put out 12 MP files with the same noise and DR as the 
12 MP sensor. My feeling is that you could probably come pretty close 
to the noise of the 12 MP sensor, while still retaining most of the 
resolution of the 12 MP sensor, particularly for high contrast edges.





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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
>Do you mean like two full-frame models with different Mpx count sensors?
>
>What sensors would be available for Ricoh to use for new Pentax DSLR
>cameras? I'm thinking the 42Mpx Sony sensor was chosen because Sony was
>willing to sell it to Ricoh in the quantities Ricoh wants for the
>projected Pentax FF DSLR.
>
>Would new full-frame models with 24Mpx or 36Mpx undercut the sales of
>the putative 42Mpx full-frame Pentax DSLR?
>
>The K3 is already 24Mpx. Would prospective buyers see a 24Mpx FF DSLR
>from Pentax as a step up or a step back or a step sideways?
>
>I think Nikon uses a 36Mpx Sony sensor in the D800.

It's like Toyota introducing the Avalon as a sales step between Camry &
Lexus.
Many are happy with the 24MP K3 class of camera.
But we all know the improvement in image formation on larger sensors.
A 24MP FF would meet that need though the price would probably be higher.
(This is evident in Bill Gekas' shots w/ the 645 vs the smaller sensor. It
makes a difference.)
And the older the smaller sensor gets the more its price will drop as a
commodity.
A $400 or so price difference is enough to allow good customer choice. 
If it were a $200 difference I would agree.
But that's speculation.  We'll just have to wait and see.


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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-10 Thread steve harley

On 2015-10-09 22:58 , Igor PDML-StR wrote:

  2. If noise is generated at the boundary of the sensor. (This could be
relevant for very high-density/small pixel size sensors)
Then the combined boundary length (circumference) of the M smaller pixels
covering the same area as one large pixel will be Sqrt(M) times larger then
that of that single large pixel.


the boundary between photosites is also an area that is less "functional" at 
transmitting photons to their respective photosites; each microlens is less 
perfect at its edges, plus there is at least some area that isn't 
photosensitive between each photosite


so on denser sensors, there is not just more linear boundary, but also a 
higher proportion of total sensor area that is less functional


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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry, I've had that hypothesis (in the back of my mind) for a while.
Your question made me thinking in more detail about it.

On one hand the argument for why that should be possible is as follows:
 If the noise is due to the statistical uncertainty (Sqrt(N)) for the 
number of counts (N) on the detector (pixel in this case), and the number 
of counts scales with the area of the single detector (pixel), then by 
combining the output of the equivalent number of the detectors (or more 
exactly, areal coverage), we should obtain a comparable level of the 
noise to that of a large detector of the same area.
(For simplicity, let's neglect for now the "wasted" area between the 
smaller pixels that is not occupied by the pixel.)


However, that doesn't cover other (numerous) sources of noise that scale
differently (or even don't scale at all) with the sensor size.
Dissertations are written on very careful analysis of those.
(If you are interested, - look e.g. at these class notes:
https://classes.yale.edu/04-05/enas627b/lectures/EENG427l09bnoise.pdf )

But I can think of two "phenomenological" examples that demonstrate
why the sum of smaller sensors might not be as good as a single large one.

 1. A smaller sensor might require a fundamentally different design, 
which, in turn, produces a different level of noise (e.g. CMOS vs CCD).


 2. If noise is generated at the boundary of the sensor. (This could be 
relevant for very high-density/small pixel size sensors)
Then the combined boundary length (circumference) of the M smaller pixels 
covering the same area as one large pixel will be Sqrt(M) times larger 
then that of that single large pixel.


I am not sure if this type of "boundary" noise is actually 
happening/important in today's sensors. It might be that this type of 
effects are only relevant for much smaller (e.g. 
double-digit-nanometer-scale electronics) devices.


But in any case, - different scaling of different types of noise (noise 
sources) and different relative contribution from different sources at 
different pixel sizes can create the situation when you might not get a 
low-light-level noise from the combined pixels of a high-pixel-density 
camera sensor as low as you would get it from an equivalent-pixel-count 
lower-pixel-density camera sensor.


Igor



Larry Colen Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:10:38 -0700 wrote:

That being said, I don't understand why with a bit of math a 42 MP sensor 
could not put out 12 MP files with the same noise and DR as the 12 MP 
sensor. My feeling is that you could probably come pretty close to the 
noise of the 12 MP sensor, while still retaining most of the resolution of 
the 12 MP sensor, particularly for high contrast edges.


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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread P.J. Alling

May I suggest the cotton duck, it goes well with a nice hot sauce.

On 10/9/2015 4:49 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Funny. I was wondering what's for dinner.




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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread John

On 10/9/2015 5:54 PM, Bill wrote:

On 10/9/2015 2:49 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Funny. I was wondering what's for dinner.


http://www.incrediblethings.com/food/chocolate-hats-for-your-dingaling/



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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread John

Do you mean like two full-frame models with different Mpx count sensors?

What sensors would be available for Ricoh to use for new Pentax DSLR
cameras? I'm thinking the 42Mpx Sony sensor was chosen because Sony was
willing to sell it to Ricoh in the quantities Ricoh wants for the
projected Pentax FF DSLR.

Would new full-frame models with 24Mpx or 36Mpx undercut the sales of
the putative 42Mpx full-frame Pentax DSLR?

The K3 is already 24Mpx. Would prospective buyers see a 24Mpx FF DSLR
from Pentax as a step up or a step back or a step sideways?

I think Nikon uses a 36Mpx Sony sensor in the D800.

On 10/9/2015 3:53 PM, Collin B wrote:

If there will be a Pentax large-sensor in the Spring, might there not be
more than one?
Why come out with only the 42MP?  An alternative offering, 24M to 30M would
provide a stepping stone.
It would make marketing sense.

And my K30 @ work is reaching its end.  I'm seeing some flakey pixels.
Though not critical for what we do, it's definitely a sign of electronic
aging.
The time to replace is coming up shortly.




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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Bill

On 10/9/2015 2:49 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Funny. I was wondering what's for dinner.


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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Larry Colen



Collin B wrote:

If there will be a Pentax large-sensor in the Spring, might there not be
more than one?
Why come out with only the 42MP?  An alternative offering, 24M to 30M would
provide a stepping stone.
It would make marketing sense.

And my K30 @ work is reaching its end.  I'm seeing some flakey pixels.
Though not critical for what we do, it's definitely a sign of electronic
aging.
The time to replace is coming up shortly.


Wednesday night I went to a presentation on astro-landscape (night) 
photography. The person giving the talk absolutely loved his 12MP Sony 
A7s for that purpose, the usable high ISO was hard to believe.


That being said, I don't understand why with a bit of math a 42 MP 
sensor could not put out 12 MP files with the same noise and DR as the 
12 MP sensor. My feeling is that you could probably come pretty close to 
the noise of the 12 MP sensor, while still retaining most of the 
resolution of the 12 MP sensor, particularly for high contrast edges.








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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Larry Colen



Steve Cottrell wrote:

Funny. I was wondering what's for dinner.


A tip of the hat to Cotty.





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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
Funny. I was wondering what's for dinner.

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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Bill

On 10/9/2015 1:53 PM, Collin B wrote:

If there will be a Pentax large-sensor in the Spring, might there not be
more than one?
Why come out with only the 42MP?  An alternative offering, 24M to 30M would
provide a stepping stone.
It would make marketing sense.

And my K30 @ work is reaching its end.  I'm seeing some flakey pixels.
Though not critical for what we do, it's definitely a sign of electronic
aging.
The time to replace is coming up shortly.


Expect a "flagship" model right off the hop. I'm hoping for the new Sony 
42mp sensor. I expect by next fall there will be a mid-range model as 
well, though I wouldn't even try to guess now many pixies it will be.



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I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Collin B
If there will be a Pentax large-sensor in the Spring, might there not be
more than one?
Why come out with only the 42MP?  An alternative offering, 24M to 30M would
provide a stepping stone.
It would make marketing sense.

And my K30 @ work is reaching its end.  I'm seeing some flakey pixels.
Though not critical for what we do, it's definitely a sign of electronic
aging.
The time to replace is coming up shortly.


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OT: Wondering what to do with the rest of your life?

2015-02-14 Thread Bob W-PDML
Try 

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See if you can spot the dirty Frenchman in Donna Summers' Disco Sausage Quiz!

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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-22 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:31 +0200, "Boris Liberman" 
wrote:
> On 11/21/2010 10:52 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > Not quite all, apparently.  The K200D doesn't have PZ functionality but
> > it is compatible with SDM lenses.
> 
> Software?
> 


Don't think so - the manual specifically states non-PZ compatibility.


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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-22 Thread Boris Liberman

On 11/21/2010 10:52 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Not quite all, apparently.  The K200D doesn't have PZ functionality but
it is compatible with SDM lenses.


Software?

Boris




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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:47 -0500, "Adam Maas"  wrote:
> They've been back since the K10D and K100D Super, delivering power to
> the SDM lenses and re-enabling basic PZ functionality.
> 


Not quite all, apparently.  The K200D doesn't have PZ functionality but
it is compatible with SDM lenses.



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> 
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
>  wrote:
> > Boris,
> >
> > I hadn't taken note of those same pins in my K-x.
> > But there they are !!!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Collin Brendemuehl
> > http://kerygmainstitute.org
> >
> > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
> > -- Jim Elliott
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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:45:33PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> It appears the power zoom has been revived.
> So should it be called the PZ-5d instead of the K-5? :-)

What does the K-5 offer that a K10D (or later) body does not?


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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread Adam Maas
They've been back since the K10D and K100D Super, delivering power to
the SDM lenses and re-enabling basic PZ functionality.

-Adam

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> Boris,
>
> I hadn't taken note of those same pins in my K-x.
> But there they are !!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
> http://kerygmainstitute.org
>
> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
> -- Jim Elliott
>
>
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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread Boris Liberman

As far as I understand, these pins are used to drive the SDM motor.

On 11/21/2010 3:13 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

Boris,

I hadn't taken note of those same pins in my K-x.
But there they are !!!

Sincerely,

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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Boris,

I hadn't taken note of those same pins in my K-x.
But there they are !!! 

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
http://kerygmainstitute.org 

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Re: I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Collin, my understanding that all cameras from K10D through K-5 (K20D, 
K-7) are supporting some basic PZ operations such as lens retract when 
camera is turned off. However, it also seems to me that this is where it 
ends. None of the modern cameras fully support PZ (zoom tracking, etc). 
So, it could be just as well that K-5 remains K-5.


Boris

On 11/21/2010 2:45 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

It appears the power zoom has been revived.
So should it be called the PZ-5d instead of the K-5? :-)

Sincerely,

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I was wondering ...

2010-11-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
It appears the power zoom has been revived.
So should it be called the PZ-5d instead of the K-5? :-)

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
http://kerygmainstitute.org 

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Re: New guy in town wondering about PZ-1p fill flash

2002-08-08 Thread Matjaz Osojnik

Hi,
welcome on the list, Leon. Finally another slovenian member. :-) I hope you 
will enjoy PDML. I'm really busy lately so I don't contribute much to the list, 
but I sure was glad to see your name appering here. Welcome.

Matjaz

P.S.: Se malo slovenscine, saj je redka: lep pozdrav prav tako iz Ljubljane 
torej. Jutri ravno odjadram na dopust, tako da me ne bo kaj dosti na listi, 
ampak konec meseca pa se lahko kaj slisimo oziroma beremo.

Cao, Matjaz


> Hi everyone 
> 

> Well, to get the first thing first: my name is Leon Mlakar and I live
> in a nice small town of Ljubljana that was named a Capital of a nice
> small country of Slovenia some ten years ago. At the beginning of this
> year, after spending many years behind the computer screen, I decided
> to check out into the real world. To lessen the shock, I'm doing it
> through the viewfinder of the camera :-)
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