AW: istD and old primes
SMC Takumars work like ordinary Takumars on the *ist D - stop down in M or AE. Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2003 05:13 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: istD and old primes - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as K and M lenses are concerned, Has anyone reported about using SMC Takumars with the K-M42 adaptor? Bob Rapp
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I would also think you could: 1. take a reading with your handheld meter, or by guessimate. 2. set the aperture on the lens. 3. set the shutter speed on the camera. 4. take the photo. -- keller.schaefer wrote: ... has to be magic, as on my *ist D there is no exposure compensation in M. The only way I can get this to work somehow, is to hit the green button and then to correct shutter speed. So when in M, 1) stop down the lens as much as you like and remember the number of stops 2) frame 3) hit green button 4) correct shutter speed by the number of steps that you have stopped down the lens 5) shoot Or did I miss something? Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 1. Dezember 2003 22:45 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: istD and old primes Hi Jim, on 01 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: And a last trick: stop down the lens 3 times, set the exposure compensation to +3 and use the green button in M - now you have a nice working AE with an old K-/M-lens. Isn't there supposed to be some incantation you say first before you do the last trick? Just Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious... Cheers, Heiko -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
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Or, since in most situations the light will remain the same for a while, take a reading of the area and set the camera. Then, when it's time to catch that decisive moment, point, focus, and shoot. Sometimes focus isn't even necessary ... shel graywolf wrote: I would also think you could: 1. take a reading with your handheld meter, or by guessimate. 2. set the aperture on the lens. 3. set the shutter speed on the camera. 4. take the photo.
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No, no, Shel. That is too advanced for many. You have to check the lighting every shot, sometimes 3 or 4 times for each shot. You have to rack the focus back and forth, back and forth, back and forth so you will get the subject sharp after all a 50mm lens at f16 has hardly any DOF. It is so hard and fiddlely doing all that you need a really seriously computerised camera just to get a snapshot of your kids. I was taking some shots the other day when I turned around and the subject was backlighted. Take a new reading? Set exposure compensation? Naw, the camera is still set for the existing light, just keep shooting. To me, automatic cameras are often more work not less. BTW, did I tell you I finally got an MX? Funny how it seems to work almost automatically in my hands when I have not used one in 15 years. Damned if I don't still think it is the best 35mm SLR ever. -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Or, since in most situations the light will remain the same for a while, take a reading of the area and set the camera. Then, when it's time to catch that decisive moment, point, focus, and shoot. Sometimes focus isn't even necessary ... shel graywolf wrote: I would also think you could: 1. take a reading with your handheld meter, or by guessimate. 2. set the aperture on the lens. 3. set the shutter speed on the camera. 4. take the photo. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
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Reported in what sense? I have used my M42 lenses a bit. I just tend to use my K-mounts more often and with the Limited lenses don't drag out the M42 much - that and the limited selection... What would you want to see? I can try to accomodate. I plan on doing the screwmount scene next trip up north... Enjoying photography, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:13 PM -- -- -- - Original Message - -- From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- As far as K and M lenses are concerned, -- -- Has anyone reported about using SMC Takumars with the K-M42 adaptor? -- -- Bob Rapp -- -- --
istD and old primes
I have a couple of 135mm lenses. One a Takumar Bayonet 2.8-32 and the other a 2.5-22 Is it possible make these work with the istD? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
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Absolutely! One Custom Function setting and then you can shoot in aperture priority AE or in Manual mode. Utter simplicity. That's how I use my Zenitar 16mm fisheye with my *ist D. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: istD and old primes Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:04:47 +1100 I have a couple of 135mm lenses. One a Takumar Bayonet 2.8-32 and the other a 2.5-22 Is it possible make these work with the istD? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia _ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
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Hi Kevin, on 04 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: I have a couple of 135mm lenses. One a Takumar Bayonet 2.8-32 and the other a 2.5-22 Is it possible make these work with the istD? They will work, _but_ - In AE the diaphragm won't close (or more precise: it closes, but the picture is taken with wide open diaphragm). But the light meter works and the shutter time will be set correctly. - In M the diaphragm will be closed an the picture will be taken with the aperture that you've set. The light meter will work, if you press the green button, but again - it will meter only wide open! So you've calculate a little bit (stopping down 3 times at the aperture ring - increase the shutter time 3 times). Another workaround is to release the lens and turn it a little bit until the diaphragm is closed. Now the *istD works in AE with the aperture set at the lens. And a last trick: stop down the lens 3 times, set the exposure compensation to +3 and use the green button in M - now you have a nice working AE with an old K-/M-lens. Cheers, Heiko
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Len, So excuse me, but this is correct? I tuned out for the 500 emails (or was it 5,000) whining about the *ist D not being able to use K and M lenses. Nobody had the camera in hand, just the instructions, and everybody was speculating. So now that we have the camera to see and touch, we can use old K and M lenses? Please advise... Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely! One Custom Function setting and then you can shoot in aperture priority AE or in Manual mode. Utter simplicity. That's how I use my Zenitar 16mm fisheye with my *ist D. Len From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a couple of 135mm lenses. One a Takumar Bayonet 2.8-32 and the other a 2.5-22 Is it possible make these work with the istD?
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Or simply use the D in manual mode and use a hand held meter. Bill - Original Message - From: Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: Re: istD and old primes Hi Kevin, on 04 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: I have a couple of 135mm lenses. One a Takumar Bayonet 2.8-32 and the other a 2.5-22 Is it possible make these work with the istD? They will work, _but_ - In AE the diaphragm won't close (or more precise: it closes, but the picture is taken with wide open diaphragm). But the light meter works and the shutter time will be set correctly. - In M the diaphragm will be closed an the picture will be taken with the aperture that you've set. The light meter will work, if you press the green button, but again - it will meter only wide open! So you've calculate a little bit (stopping down 3 times at the aperture ring - increase the shutter time 3 times). Another workaround is to release the lens and turn it a little bit until the diaphragm is closed. Now the *istD works in AE with the aperture set at the lens. And a last trick: stop down the lens 3 times, set the exposure compensation to +3 and use the green button in M - now you have a nice working AE with an old K-/M-lens. Cheers, Heiko
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 7:17 AM Subject: Re: istD and old primes Len, So excuse me, but this is correct? I tuned out for the 500 emails (or was it 5,000) whining about the *ist D not being able to use K and M lenses. Nobody had the camera in hand, just the instructions, and everybody was speculating. So now that we have the camera to see and touch, we can use old K and M lenses? Please advise... Nothing has changed. The camera doesn't have the aperture simulator lever (or whatever the heck the thing is called). It will mount K lenses, and it will take pictures with them after you have told the camera to allow it, but you don't get a lot of metering options, and there are some wonks in the operation. It works pretty much as I expected it to when I was calling it a crippled whore. William Robb
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From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:18:33 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istD and old primes Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:18:44 -0500 Or simply use the D in manual mode and use a hand held meter. Bill And a last trick: stop down the lens 3 times, set the exposure compensation to +3 and use the green button in M - now you have a nice working AE with an old K-/M-lens. Cheers, Heiko Isn't there supposed to be some incantation you say first before you do the last trick?
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Hi Jim, on 01 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: And a last trick: stop down the lens 3 times, set the exposure compensation to +3 and use the green button in M - now you have a nice working AE with an old K-/M-lens. Isn't there supposed to be some incantation you say first before you do the last trick? Just Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious... Cheers, Heiko
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This one time, at band camp, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or simply use the D in manual mode and use a hand held meter. I put on the prime 135mm 2.5-22 lense and all I get is a flashing Av - - in the LCD panel. I set it to Manual focus and M on the dial, but nothin works, cannot even make it take a photo. What might this be? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
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- Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson Subject: Re: istD and old primes This one time, at band camp, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or simply use the D in manual mode and use a hand held meter. I put on the prime 135mm 2.5-22 lense and all I get is a flashing Av - - in the LCD panel. I set it to Manual focus and M on the dial, but nothin works, cannot even make it take a photo. What might this be? Might be you haven't got the inscrutable custom function that allows the camera to release the shutter with the aperture ring off A set to allow the shutter to operate with the aperture off A. William Robb
