Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-30 Thread Steve Desjardins
Ooh!  A truly iconic representation of human society being reduced to
the microcosm of circuitry.  The looping wires representing the
convoluted path. to the ancient biological interfaces, roughly scribbled
words on plywood like the modern echo of primitive cave drawings.  So
moving. . . .

Nice and sharp too.  It's got a cast, though, and you probably should
adjust the white balance.

;-)))

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 12:29AM 
If the camera can guess correctly 95% of the time then that is
beneficial.

The *ist D is a great camera, but that doesn't mean that one shouldn't
use it for snapshots when a snapshot is what one is going for.  All
photographs don't need to be artistic or even enjoyable.  Often they
are just documentary and are there to show something which is hard to
explain in words.

This is the only picture that I've shot this week:
http://phred.org/~alex/pictures/wiring/reduced/IMGP3493.JPG 

It is a picture of my router.  Is it artistic?  No.  Was it helpful
to a friend who wondered what it looked like?  Yes.  Did I take it
with the *ist D?  Yes.

Sometimes I just shoot with the *ist D in S *** mode and upload
pictures straight from the camera with no editing because I want to
put something online.  In these cases autorotation can save a little
bit of time and has no downsides that I'm aware of.

alex

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Herb Chong wrote:

 so what is different between that and not doing anything?

 Herb...
 - Original Message -
 From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:07 PM
 Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice


  Every file format produced by the Pentax *ist D can be rotated
losslessly.
  Whatever orientation a sensor produces could always be considered
a
  best guess, and you could re-rotate it as you prefer afterwords.






Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-30 Thread Peter J. Alling
My dc260 doesn't shoot sparks, but it does have the vertical/horizontal
auto rotation. (And it's nearly 6 years old, ancient for a digital photo 
product).

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Norm Baugher 
Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice

 

My frickin' Kodak Easy Share has this function
   

Do sparks shoot out of it when it fricks?
William Robb
 




Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-30 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Peter J. Alling
Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice


 My dc260 doesn't shoot sparks, but it does have the
vertical/horizontal
 auto rotation. (And it's nearly 6 years old, ancient for a digital
photo
 product).

If it doesn't frick, then what good is it?

William Robb





Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread Jim Apilado
I think that backwater camera company called Canon has a DSLR that will
rotate images taken vertically.

Jim A.

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 If the camera could know which way is up so I didn't have to rotate all my
 photos in PS...My family is sick of having to bob their heads side to side
 when looking at the windows slide show of each day's take.  We must look
 ridiculous.
 
 Cory
 working on vacation photos this morning instead of painting the
 house...probably rain this afternoon!
 
 
 
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Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread Frits Wüthrich
In the browser of PS CS you have to instruct it to rotate it, it will remember this 
the next time and show the thumbnail correct, as well as open the image correct.
It would have been nice if the instruction came from the camera though.

On Tuesday 29 June 2004 14:50, cbwaters wrote:
FJW If the camera could know which way is up so I didn't have to rotate all my
FJW photos in PS...My family is sick of having to bob their heads side to side
FJW when looking at the windows slide show of each day's take.  We must look
FJW ridiculous.
FJW 
FJW Cory
FJW working on vacation photos this morning instead of painting the
FJW house...probably rain this afternoon!


-- 
Frits Wüthrich



RE: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread David Miers
It's expected that the new Minolta D7 will have this feature since the
existing film 7 already does change the numbers and data on the back as well
when you turn it to vertical.  So they already have the technology in it
that knows the cameras orientation.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice


 I think that backwater camera company called Canon has a DSLR that will
 rotate images taken vertically.

 Jim A.

  From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:50:56 -0400
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: wouldn't it be nice
  Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:51:07 -0400
 
  If the camera could know which way is up so I didn't have to
 rotate all my
  photos in PS...My family is sick of having to bob their heads
 side to side
  when looking at the windows slide show of each day's take.  We must look
  ridiculous.
 
  Cory
  working on vacation photos this morning instead of painting the
  house...probably rain this afternoon!
 
 
 
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Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread Christian
I think it could be done on the ist-D in a firmware upgrade.  I figure if the camera 
could know when the vertical release is used on the D-BG1 then it could easily 
mark those images for rotation in whatever browser you are using.

Christian

-Original Message-
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 29, 2004 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: wouldn't it be nice

If the camera could know which way is up so I didn't have to rotate all my
photos in PS...My family is sick of having to bob their heads side to side
when looking at the windows slide show of each day's take.  We must look
ridiculous.

Cory
working on vacation photos this morning instead of painting the
house...probably rain this afternoon!



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Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread Herb Chong
what happens when you use the remote release or the cable release. there are
times when i tilt the camera at an angle such that the framing has nothing
to do with up or down as detected by any sensor or position of the shutter
release.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice


 I think it could be done on the ist-D in a firmware upgrade.  I figure if
the camera could know when the vertical release is used on the D-BG1 then
it could easily mark those images for rotation in whatever browser you are
using.




Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread alex wetmore
Every file format produced by the Pentax *ist D can be rotated losslessly.
Whatever orientation a sensor produces could always be considered a
best guess, and you could re-rotate it as you prefer afterwords.

alex

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Herb Chong wrote:

 what happens when you use the remote release or the cable release. there are
 times when i tilt the camera at an angle such that the framing has nothing
 to do with up or down as detected by any sensor or position of the shutter
 release.

 Herb...
 - Original Message -
 From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:43 AM
 Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice


  I think it could be done on the ist-D in a firmware upgrade.  I figure if
 the camera could know when the vertical release is used on the D-BG1 then
 it could easily mark those images for rotation in whatever browser you are
 using.






Re: wouldn't it be nice

2004-06-29 Thread Herb Chong
so what is different between that and not doing anything?

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: wouldn't it be nice


 Every file format produced by the Pentax *ist D can be rotated losslessly.
 Whatever orientation a sensor produces could always be considered a
 best guess, and you could re-rotate it as you prefer afterwords.




Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why Istick to Pentax)

2003-03-21 Thread mike wilson
Sylwek wrote:

 Or better - Bieszczady, Poland

Homer
Mmm, Bieszczady (drool)
/Homer



Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)

2003-03-21 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in Toronto have once in a
while.  It's nice, as well, to meet the odd out-of-towner who swings this
way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark Roberts (coming in April!).

OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been moved up slightly: I'll
be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only staying one night
due to my very restricted budget, so any get-together will have to be
Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have preferred Friday (as would
many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do at the moment.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)

2003-03-21 Thread Brendan
I actually should be able to do that lol 

 --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in
 Toronto have once in a
 while.  It's nice, as well, to meet the odd
 out-of-towner who swings this
 way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark
 Roberts (coming in April!).
 
 OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been
 moved up slightly: I'll
 be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only
 staying one night
 due to my very restricted budget, so any
 get-together will have to be
 Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have
 preferred Friday (as would
 many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do
 at the moment.
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
  

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Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)

2003-03-21 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, Mark,

Thursday April 3 is great for me!  Just let us know where you'll be, and we can
suggest a meeting place (or you can - whatever).  Let us know what time is good
for you (I'm off work by 5 each day).  Whatever time that is, we'll tell
Brendan to be there an hour earlier - that way we'll only have to wait 1/2 hour
for him!!

BTW, remember, a long long time ago, you sent me a rewind knob?  You thought it
might fit my MV (but it didn't).  Turns out it's identical to the one on my
MX.  It was lost for about 6 months or more.  Well, I found it!  It's yours
again if you want it!

I'll bring one for an ME Super (I think that's the same one used on the
MV) and trade you :-)


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)

2003-03-21 Thread Jeff
What a bummer. Weeknights are tough for me, after a long work day.
I wanted to meet the man behind the Lighthouses (I'm a sucker for Lighthouses).
Jeff.

Mark Roberts wrote:
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in Toronto have once in a
while.  It's nice, as well, to meet the odd out-of-towner who swings this
way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark Roberts (coming in April!).


OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been moved up slightly: I'll
be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only staying one night
due to my very restricted budget, so any get-together will have to be
Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have preferred Friday (as would
many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do at the moment.




RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax

2003-03-21 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Hey there Frank!

Do I see the making of a commercial???

WIth the assorted people on this list I can see us keeping order and just
having a blast.  Though I still don't think that I can match your bunny ears
:-)

Realizing he is so far behind on the list - again,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:15 PM
--
-- Hi, Cesar,
--
-- Finding a bar big enough?  That could be done.  Finding a
-- bar that would take us
-- in?  No problem.
--
-- Finding a bar that wouldn't boot us all out after about an
-- hour of carousing?
-- That could be the problem...  vbg
--
-- cheers,
-- frank
--
-- Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
--
--  snipWhat a concept though, a complete gathering of the
-- PDML.  It is both an
--  exciting and a scary thought.  Would there be a bar big
-- enough for us all -
--  and would they even take us in?  snip
--
--  --
--
-- Honour - that virtue of the unjust!
-- -Albert Camus
--
--



RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax)

2003-03-21 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Not a bad choice for me.  Not only have I been sent through there for
business, but I also have a couple of places where I can stay.

Had a blast at Red Rock Canyon, just outside Las Vegas,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:18 AM
--
-- One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares.
-- Paul
--
-- Paul Eriksson wrote:
-- 
--  Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive.
--  /Paul
-- 
--  
--  Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos.
--  Steve Larson
--  Redondo Beach, California
--  
--  
--Hmm..
--Perhaps we should organize something then..
--one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?
--   
--Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably
-- centralized location that
--  has
--inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting
--  opportunities
--and courteous residents?
--



Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why Istick to Pentax)

2003-03-20 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 20.03.03 1:55, Lukasz Kacperczyk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has
 inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities
 and courteous residents?
 
 What about Warsaw, Poland? ;-)
 
Or better - Bieszczady, Poland - beautiful mountains and really cheap
accomodation. And it is midway between Australia and USA :-) You can see
photos at http://www.bieszczady.pl/portal/html/galeria.php?strona=galeria1

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek





Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I sticktoPentax)

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares.
Paul

Paul Eriksson wrote:
 
 Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive.
 /Paul
 
 
 Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 
 
   Hmm..
   Perhaps we should organize something then..
   one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?
  
   Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that
 has
   inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting
 opportunities
   and courteous residents?
 
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RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 Or better - Bieszczady, Poland - beautiful mountains and really cheap
 accomodation.

Sounds great :-)

Health permitting, there are many places I would like to visit and
photograph - and Poland is certainly one of them. I would like to tour and
fully comprehend the vast size of Canada and the USA (Island life eh!) and
visit Sweden, Norway and Finland. So much to see, so much film to use! And I
have missed out so many countries I would like to visit. Thank goodness for
the internet and all the pictures in the PUG or links from e-mails which
show me how nice it is where ~you all~ live.

Malcolm




RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax)

2003-03-20 Thread tom
And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks.

Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive.

tv

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:18 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! 
 was: Why I
 stick toPentax)
 
 
 One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares.
 Paul
 
 Paul Eriksson wrote:
  
  Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive.
  /Paul
  
  
  Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos.
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
  
  
Hmm..
Perhaps we should organize something then..
one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?
   
Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably 
 centralized location that
  has
inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting
  opportunities
and courteous residents?
  
  _
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Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-20 Thread Bill Owens
In American Southern English that would be y'all

Bill


 Thank goodness for
 the internet and all the pictures in the PUG or links from e-mails which
 show me how nice it is where ~you all~ live.
 
 Malcolm
 
 



Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax)

2003-03-20 Thread Steve Larson
OK, four votes for Vegas. I think it`s a winner! Wait, five votes, my
wife wants to go too. Wait again, my daughter wants to go too,
Six votes for Vegas!!!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:06 AM
Subject: RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick
toPentax)


 And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks.

 Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive.

 tv

  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:18 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice!
  was: Why I
  stick toPentax)
 
 
  One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares.
  Paul
 
  Paul Eriksson wrote:
  
   Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive.
   /Paul
  
   
   Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos.
   Steve Larson
   Redondo Beach, California
   
   
 Hmm..
 Perhaps we should organize something then..
 one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?

 Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably
  centralized location that
   has
 inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting
   opportunities
 and courteous residents?
  
   _
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Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-20 Thread Ken Archer
To be technically correct, that would be all y'all.  ;-)

On Thursday 20 March 2003 01:29 pm, Bill Owens wrote:
 In American Southern English that would be y'all

 Bill

  Thank goodness for
  the internet and all the pictures in the PUG or links from e-mails
  which show me how nice it is where ~you all~ live.
 
  Malcolm

-- 
Ken Archer Canine Photography
San Antonio, Texas
Business Is Going To The Dogs



Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hmm..
Perhaps we should organize something then..
one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?

Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has
inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities
and courteous residents?

I think this would be a great idea...

I'm willing to help out.. anyone else?
Dave


-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax


Hi, Cesar,

Finding a bar big enough?  That could be done.  Finding a bar that would
take us
in?  No problem.

Finding a bar that wouldn't boot us all out after about an hour of
carousing?
That could be the problem...  vbg

cheers,
frank

Cesar Matamoros II wrote:

 snipWhat a concept though, a complete gathering of the PDML.  It is both
an
 exciting and a scary thought.  Would there be a bar big enough for us
all -
 and would they even take us in?  snip

 --

Honour - that virtue of the unjust!
-Albert Camus







Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
 Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has
 inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities
 and courteous residents?

What about Warsaw, Poland? ;-)

Lukasz



Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Steve Larson
Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to
Pentax)


 Hmm..
 Perhaps we should organize something then..
 one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?

 Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has
 inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities
 and courteous residents?



Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stickto Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Downtown Baghdad?

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What about Warsaw, Poland? ;-)