Re: [Pdns-users] Acheiving 40,000 QPS

2010-05-17 Thread Lee Standen
Looks like I've narrowed down the issue from this setup.

The issue was one of concurrency... by boosting it up to 4000 outstanding, I 
was able to break over the 30,000 per second mark.  It's quite possible that 
some combination of settings means we need to run more concurrent queries to 
reach

./queryperf -q 4000 -l 60 < queryfile-example-3million

Given the hardware is below what I thought we were running on, I'm quite happy 
with the performance level -- further, the fact it only dropped 1.26% of 
queries when running at this performance level, I'm even more impressed.

---

Statistics:

  Parse input file: multiple times
  Run time limit:   60 seconds
  Ran through file: 0 times

  Queries sent: 1982466 queries
  Queries completed:1957446 queries
  Queries lost: 25020 queries
  Queries delayed(?):   0 queries

  RTT max:  5.005290 sec
  RTT min:  0.03 sec
  RTT average:  0.061326 sec
  RTT std deviation:0.296004 sec
  RTT out of range: 10 queries

  Percentage completed:  98.74%
  Percentage lost:1.26%

  Started at:   Mon May 17 07:48:36 2010
  Finished at:  Mon May 17 07:49:41 2010
  Ran for:  65.16 seconds

  Queries per second:   30114.546433 qps





-Original Message-
From: pdns-users-boun...@mailman.powerdns.com 
[mailto:pdns-users-boun...@mailman.powerdns.com] On Behalf Of Lee Standen
Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 3:23 PM
To: bert hubert
Cc: pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com
Subject: Re: [Pdns-users] Acheiving 40,000 QPS

Thanks for that information, Bert.

I had seen the documentation before... perhaps I should provide some more 
information.

Here are the options I'm using at the moment (I've tried several values):

---
disable-packetcache=no
local-address=0.0.0.0
local-port=53
max-cache-entries=400
max-packetcache-entries=400
single-socket=off
threads=8
---


Here's the results of the second run using the same command line you had 
below... the data file I found using a quick google search for the filename you 
used:

./queryperf -q 1000 -l 100 < queryfile-example-3million

---
Statistics:

  Parse input file: multiple times
  Run time limit:   100 seconds
  Ran through file: 0 times

  Queries sent: 1285008 queries
  Queries completed:1284175 queries
  Queries lost: 833 queries
  Queries delayed(?):   0 queries

  RTT max:  5.000198 sec
  RTT min:  0.02 sec
  RTT average:  0.074771 sec
  RTT std deviation:0.265890 sec
  RTT out of range: 1 queries

  Percentage completed:  99.94%
  Percentage lost:0.06%

  Started at:   Mon May 17 07:15:32 2010
  Finished at:  Mon May 17 07:17:17 2010
  Ran for:  104.875333 seconds

  Queries per second:   12244.776377 qps
---


I just double-checked the hardware and I've actually got 4 cores available, not 
8 as I initially thought:

---
processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5150  @ 2.66GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 2667.294
cache size  : 4096 KB
---



Lastly, I'm using the amd64 deb from the powerdns web site on Ubuntu 10.04 
rather than building a new binary.  It was assumed that those binaries would be 
optimized, but if they're not, I'm happy to try building it myself.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have :)






-Original Message-
From: bert hubert [mailto:bert.hub...@netherlabs.nl] 
Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 2:31 PM
To: Lee Standen
Cc: pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com
Subject: Re: [Pdns-users] Acheiving 40,000 QPS

Hi Lee,

In the past few months, quite some CNS servers have been replaced by the
PowerDNS Recursor, so you are not alone!

The 40,000 number has been reproduced by a number of separate parties, 
sample output is below.

First, please read http://doc.powerdns.com/recursor-performance.html
especially the bit about firewalls. PowerDNS does aggressive source port
randomization, and may stress out intervening firewalls.

Second, try: dnsperf -q 1000 -l 100 < queryfile-example-3million 

I just did, and the output is:
  Parse input file: multiple times
  Run time limit:   100 seconds
  Ran through file: 0 times

  Queries sent: 2995336 queries
  Queries completed:2991690 queries
  Queries lost: 3646 queries

  Avg request size: 41 bytes
  Avg response size:80 bytes

  Percentage completed:  99.88%
  Percentage lost

Re: [Pdns-users] Acheiving 40,000 QPS

2010-05-17 Thread Lee Standen
Thanks for that information, Bert.

I had seen the documentation before... perhaps I should provide some more 
information.

Here are the options I'm using at the moment (I've tried several values):

---
disable-packetcache=no
local-address=0.0.0.0
local-port=53
max-cache-entries=400
max-packetcache-entries=400
single-socket=off
threads=8
---


Here's the results of the second run using the same command line you had 
below... the data file I found using a quick google search for the filename you 
used:

./queryperf -q 1000 -l 100 < queryfile-example-3million

---
Statistics:

  Parse input file: multiple times
  Run time limit:   100 seconds
  Ran through file: 0 times

  Queries sent: 1285008 queries
  Queries completed:1284175 queries
  Queries lost: 833 queries
  Queries delayed(?):   0 queries

  RTT max:  5.000198 sec
  RTT min:  0.02 sec
  RTT average:  0.074771 sec
  RTT std deviation:0.265890 sec
  RTT out of range: 1 queries

  Percentage completed:  99.94%
  Percentage lost:0.06%

  Started at:   Mon May 17 07:15:32 2010
  Finished at:  Mon May 17 07:17:17 2010
  Ran for:  104.875333 seconds

  Queries per second:   12244.776377 qps
---


I just double-checked the hardware and I've actually got 4 cores available, not 
8 as I initially thought:

---
processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5150  @ 2.66GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 2667.294
cache size  : 4096 KB
---



Lastly, I'm using the amd64 deb from the powerdns web site on Ubuntu 10.04 
rather than building a new binary.  It was assumed that those binaries would be 
optimized, but if they're not, I'm happy to try building it myself.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have :)






-Original Message-
From: bert hubert [mailto:bert.hub...@netherlabs.nl] 
Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 2:31 PM
To: Lee Standen
Cc: pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com
Subject: Re: [Pdns-users] Acheiving 40,000 QPS

Hi Lee,

In the past few months, quite some CNS servers have been replaced by the
PowerDNS Recursor, so you are not alone!

The 40,000 number has been reproduced by a number of separate parties, 
sample output is below.

First, please read http://doc.powerdns.com/recursor-performance.html
especially the bit about firewalls. PowerDNS does aggressive source port
randomization, and may stress out intervening firewalls.

Second, try: dnsperf -q 1000 -l 100 < queryfile-example-3million 

I just did, and the output is:
  Parse input file: multiple times
  Run time limit:   100 seconds
  Ran through file: 0 times

  Queries sent: 2995336 queries
  Queries completed:2991690 queries
  Queries lost: 3646 queries

  Avg request size: 41 bytes
  Avg response size:80 bytes

  Percentage completed:  99.88%
  Percentage lost:0.12%

  Started at:   Mon May 17 08:23:12 2010
  Finished at:  Mon May 17 08:24:57 2010
  Ran for:  104.828020 seconds

  Queries per second:   28539.029927 qps

This is on a server with a firewall in place, and the first run. Second run
with firewall state tracking disabled as per the instructions on
doc.powerdns.com:

Statistics:

  Parse input file: multiple times
  Run time limit:   100 seconds
  Ran through file: 1 times

  Queries sent: 5700362 queries
  Queries completed:5694333 queries
  Queries lost: 6029 queries

  Avg request size: 41 bytes
  Avg response size:80 bytes

  Percentage completed:  99.89%
  Percentage lost:0.11%

  Started at:   Mon May 17 08:26:33 2010
  Finished at:  Mon May 17 08:28:18 2010
  Ran for:  104.71 seconds

  Queries per second:   54381.363598 qps

I hope this helps answer your question. The main trick is to have enough
queries operating in parallel, which incidentally is a close match to 'real
life' heavy use operation.

The operating system of the numbers above is Ubuntu Karmic Koala.

Let me know if you have further questions.

Kind regards,

Bert Hubert

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 01:45:46PM +0800, Lee Standen wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> We're looking to trial PowerDNS as an option to replace our Nominum CNS 
> servers in the next few months, and we're impressed by the performance 
> claimed by PowerDNS.
> 
> I've deployed a recursive server and have attempted to replay some captured 
> traffic, but based on 

[Pdns-users] Acheiving 40,000 QPS

2010-05-16 Thread Lee Standen
Hi All,

We're looking to trial PowerDNS as an option to replace our Nominum CNS servers 
in the next few months, and we're impressed by the performance claimed by 
PowerDNS.

I've deployed a recursive server and have attempted to replay some captured 
traffic, but based on my initial testing, I'm only able to pull about 2500 
requests per second.

Does any documentation exist which describes which settings must be changed to 
achieve the claimed 40,000 requests per second?

The server is currently deployed on an IBM HS-21XM blade, which is an 8 core 
Xeon system.

Thanks



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