RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan

2010-03-22 Thread Sjaak Eenhuis

This is not a project plan. Its a list consisting of alfanumeric codes with 
dates associated.


M3    11/12/2010    M3 milestone
M4    12/18/2010    M4 milestone

etc

The only thing this plan teaches us is that there are milestones, but they 
don't tell in what land they stand.

Beside the fact that this table doesn't contain any usable data, the data that 
is inside is incorrect. We learn that milestone 3 will be delivered after the 
final product has been released. :-)

As a pdt user I feel the urge to say something about this, because the last pdt 
release went online a long time ago, and the goals are still a secret.
I would like to suggest that you seek out better ways to handle conflicting 
interests between Zend Studio and PDT, or if you feel this isn't the problem, 
we could try to find out the real cause.
 
I understood that you have finished the rewrite with h2-indexing, maybe we 
could add this as an achievement on the plan page? This is a good message to 
all the people that suffers from autocompletion inertia.

Btw I kind of love pdt. As an avid 'supporter' of this project I thank you all 
again for all the efforts made.



 Subject: RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan
 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:10:35 +0200
 From: r...@zend.com
 To: pdt-dev@eclipse.org

 You can find the project plan for PDT here:
 http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.pdt
 We are currently working on Eclipse PDT issues and fix issues marked as
 P1.

 Anything in particular that you are searching for?
 Roy
 -Original Message-
 From: pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org]
 On Behalf Of sNop
 Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:17 AM
 To: PDT Developers
 Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan

 Hi,

 i'm lacking actualizations of the PDT's webpages too. They should be
 actualized more often.

 So the communication with PDT users is very bad.

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Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan

2010-03-22 Thread Nikolai Plath
Sorry folks but... i second that

Am 22.03.2010 08:26, schrieb Sjaak Eenhuis:
 This is not a project plan. Its a list consisting of alfanumeric codes with 
 dates associated.


 M311/12/2010M3 milestone
 M412/18/2010M4 milestone

 etc

 The only thing this plan teaches us is that there are milestones, but they 
 don't tell in what land they stand.

 Beside the fact that this table doesn't contain any usable data, the data 
 that is inside is incorrect. We learn that milestone 3 will be delivered 
 after the final product has been released. :-)

 As a pdt user I feel the urge to say something about this, because the last 
 pdt release went online a long time ago, and the goals are still a secret.
 I would like to suggest that you seek out better ways to handle conflicting 
 interests between Zend Studio and PDT, or if you feel this isn't the problem, 
 we could try to find out the real cause.
  
 I understood that you have finished the rewrite with h2-indexing, maybe we 
 could add this as an achievement on the plan page? This is a good message to 
 all the people that suffers from autocompletion inertia.

 Btw I kind of love pdt. As an avid 'supporter' of this project I thank you 
 all again for all the efforts made.


 
   
 Subject: RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan
 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:10:35 +0200
 From: r...@zend.com
 To: pdt-dev@eclipse.org

 You can find the project plan for PDT here:
 http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.pdt
 We are currently working on Eclipse PDT issues and fix issues marked as
 P1.

 Anything in particular that you are searching for?
 Roy
 -Original Message-
 From: pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org]
 On Behalf Of sNop
 Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:17 AM
 To: PDT Developers
 Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan

 Hi,

 i'm lacking actualizations of the PDT's webpages too. They should be
 actualized more often.

 So the communication with PDT users is very bad.

 ___
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 pdt-dev@eclipse.org
 https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev
 
 
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Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan

2010-03-22 Thread Robert Gruendler
same here.

although i really support the project and appreciate the help one receives as a 
developer
on this list, the end-user information could be enhanced.

For example it's a bit confusing that the current development version is 
presented
as the first option in the installation wiki, whereas the current 2.2 build
is broken, which imho is not such a good experience for people trying out pdt:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=305877


regards

-robert


On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Nikolai Plath wrote:

 Sorry folks but... i second that
 
 Am 22.03.2010 08:26, schrieb Sjaak Eenhuis:
 This is not a project plan. Its a list consisting of alfanumeric codes with 
 dates associated.
 
 
 M311/12/2010M3 milestone
 M412/18/2010M4 milestone
 
 etc
 
 The only thing this plan teaches us is that there are milestones, but they 
 don't tell in what land they stand.
 
 Beside the fact that this table doesn't contain any usable data, the data 
 that is inside is incorrect. We learn that milestone 3 will be delivered 
 after the final product has been released. :-)
 
 As a pdt user I feel the urge to say something about this, because the last 
 pdt release went online a long time ago, and the goals are still a secret.
 I would like to suggest that you seek out better ways to handle conflicting 
 interests between Zend Studio and PDT, or if you feel this isn't the 
 problem, we could try to find out the real cause.
 
 I understood that you have finished the rewrite with h2-indexing, maybe we 
 could add this as an achievement on the plan page? This is a good message to 
 all the people that suffers from autocompletion inertia.
 
 Btw I kind of love pdt. As an avid 'supporter' of this project I thank you 
 all again for all the efforts made.
 
 
 
 
 Subject: RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan
 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:10:35 +0200
 From: r...@zend.com
 To: pdt-dev@eclipse.org
 
 You can find the project plan for PDT here:
 http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.pdt
 We are currently working on Eclipse PDT issues and fix issues marked as
 P1.
 
 Anything in particular that you are searching for?
 Roy
 -Original Message-
 From: pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org]
 On Behalf Of sNop
 Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:17 AM
 To: PDT Developers
 Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan
 
 Hi,
 
 i'm lacking actualizations of the PDT's webpages too. They should be
 actualized more often.
 
 So the communication with PDT users is very bad.
 
 ___
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 pdt-dev@eclipse.org
 https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev
 

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