Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism About Theoretical Entities

2015-03-09 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Sorry to have been away from the discussion for a while. 

Jon is right that the Pragmatic Maxim is a version of the Razor. 
But the ontological Razor was no invention of Ockham and so is not wed to 
nominalism in particular. 
Already Peirce's realist hero, Duns Scotus,  used the Razor two generations 
before Ockham: Numquam pluralitas est ponenda sine necessitate. - Never 
postulate a plurality of entities without necessity. So the Razor is just as 
compatible with Scotist realism. It all depends upon what is considered 
necessary. 
But the Razor seems to have been around in the 13C, it was probably not Scotus' 
invention either. 

F

Den 20/01/2015 kl. 02.34 skrev Jon Awbrey jawb...@att.net:

 Peircers,
 
 By theoretical entities I mean things like classes, properties, qualities, 
 sets, situations, or states of affairs, in general, the putative denotations 
 of theoretical concepts, formulas, sentences, in brief, the ostensible 
 objects of signs.
 
 A conventional statement of Ockham's Razor is, “Entities shall not be 
 multiplied beyond necessity.”
 
 That is still good advice, as practical maxims go, but a pragmatist will read 
 that as practical necessity or utility, qualifying the things that we need to 
 posit in order to think at all, without getting lost in endless 
 circumlocutions of perfectly good notions.
 
 Nominalistic revolts are well-intentioned when they naturally arise, seeking 
 to clear away the clutter of ostentatious entities ostensibly denoted by 
 signs that do not denote.
 
 But that is no different in its basic intention than what Peirce sought to 
 do, clarifying metaphysics though the application of the Pragmatic Maxim.
 
 Taking the long view, then, pragmatism can be seen as a moderate continuation 
 of Ockham's revolt, substituting a principled revolution for what tends to 
 descend to a reign of terror.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jon
 
 http://inquiryintoinquiry.com
 
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[PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism About Theoretical Entities

2015-01-19 Thread Jon Awbrey
Peircers,

By theoretical entities I mean things like classes, properties, qualities, 
sets, situations, or states of affairs, in general, the putative denotations of 
theoretical concepts, formulas, sentences, in brief, the ostensible objects of 
signs.

A conventional statement of Ockham's Razor is, “Entities shall not be 
multiplied beyond necessity.”

That is still good advice, as practical maxims go, but a pragmatist will read 
that as practical necessity or utility, qualifying the things that we need to 
posit in order to think at all, without getting lost in endless circumlocutions 
of perfectly good notions.

Nominalistic revolts are well-intentioned when they naturally arise, seeking to 
clear away the clutter of ostentatious entities ostensibly denoted by signs 
that do not denote.

But that is no different in its basic intention than what Peirce sought to do, 
clarifying metaphysics though the application of the Pragmatic Maxim.

Taking the long view, then, pragmatism can be seen as a moderate continuation 
of Ockham's revolt, substituting a principled revolution for what tends to 
descend to a reign of terror.

Regards,

Jon

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