Dear Gary, lists -
But my argument was not at all to deny firstness. It was just to give the 
argument that no category ever appears isolated.
And that there is a hiearchy, paradoxically beginning with Thirdness because it 
involves 2 and 1 so that focusing on Firsts involves the prescissive bracketing 
of 2 and 3.
Best
F

Den 27/04/2015 kl. 01.37 skrev Gary Richmond 
<gary.richm...@gmail.com<mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com>>
:

Frederik, lists,

You write, "But pain involves secondness." No doubt. I had already written 
there is "certainly secondness involved" in my unexpected sudden eye pain 
example.

But, unless one wants to deny the reality of 1ns, as apparently John would, 
then one must admit that pain--and, as Peirce says, each unique instance of 
pain--has its own distinct character, it's unique quality (firstness).

And are the three phenomenoloogical categories ever found apart from the others 
in reality? Peirce says no (although one may predominate).

So to say that pain involves secondess doesn't deny firstness at all as I see 
it.

Best,

Gary


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