Re: quiz
On Dec 13, 10:24pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the right-wing be for family values and against a family wage at the same time? Because promoting the conditions for maximum feasible capital accumulation supercede all ideological considerations? I understand why Rightist politicians aren't for a family wage, but I understand less well why the working class (Christian) Right isn't. Michael -- Michael Lichter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Department of Sociology | University of California, Los Angeles ---+
Re: quiz
A one year free subscription to Capitalism, Nature, Socialism will be given the pen-ler who in the judgement of a panel of experts in Santa Cruz best answers the following question: How can the right-wing be for family values and against a family wage at the same time? Jim O'Connor Jim: ANSWER: Thats why their right wing, they get all confused when they get out of bed in the morning. seriously, i have mentioned this before in relation to the conservative political party in OZ, who just luckily have not been in power for more than 11 years (federally). they always come out really strong on family and individual rights. yet at the same time, it appeals to them to say they hate govt handouts, loathe unemployment benefits, hate heavily subsidised education, health and housing, public transport, etc all things that in OZ benefit the less well off families. Equally they accompany this mean streak with an emphasis on law and order and repression on individuals to take drugs, avoid being conscripted to imperialist wars, and recently choose who they want as a sexual partner (gender that is). kind regards bill *** William F. MitchellTelephone: +61-49-215027 .-_|\ Department of Economics +61-49-705133 / \about The University of NewcastleFax: +61-49-216919 \.--._/*-- here Callaghan NSW 2308v Australia Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web Home Page: http://econ-www.newcastle.edu.au/~bill/billyhp.html ***
Re: quiz
Delurking momentarily to play: A one year free subscription to Capitalism, Nature, Socialism will be given the pen-ler who in the judgement of a panel of experts in Santa Cruz best answers the following question: How can the right-wing be for family values and against a family wage at the same time? Because a family wage "encourages" family breakup by allowing one parent to support a family adequately? Of course, right-wingers like to gloss over the fact that happy families tend not to break up, so the only families they manage to "preserve" by this method are the unhappy (even destructive) ones. Perhaps they should be renamed "dysfunctional family values"? :-) Best, Peter Schledorn, UNC-Chapel Hill (non-economist lurker, who gets a lot out of the discussions here) Jim O'Connor
Re: The fruits of the Orange County Debacle
The other irony about Orange County's collapse is that as far as I can tell from the press coverage, a lot of their derivatives were in mortgage securities. The reason the mortgage security market exists is because Fanny Mae and Ginny Mae provide guarantees. In other words, those Orange County Libertarians were investing with some help from Uncle Sam (of course, technically, Fanny Mae isn't owned by the Govt anymore, but if it ever got into serious financial trouble, you can bet that taxpayers would end up bailing it out). Anders Schneiderman Center for Community Economic Research University of California at Berkeley
Re: quiz
In addition to seconding 'answers' by Ellen Dannin and Doug Henwood, I will add that the stance reflects a twisted supply-side theology that suggests that God helps those who support the free market. Arvind Jaggi Franklin Marshall College e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(717) 291-3920
Re: Republican plans
I'll take Pat Robertson for trade rep. over Mickey Cantor. -bob naiman
Re: quiz
RE: "How can the right-wing be for family values and against a family wage at the same time?" Jim O'Connor Jim: I'm not sure my entry can be considered an official entry in your contest. You see, it is not my explanation but is rather the words of Tom Monaghan (founder of Domino's Pizza and, if I recall correctly, owner of the Detroit Tigers) to a group of execs at Madonna College (LIvonia, Mich.) in February 1990. Source is _Harper's Magazine_, August 1990, p. 22. Here goes (3 paragraphs): "To me one of the most exciting things in the world is being poor. Survival is such an exciting challenge. There was a study done about twenty years ago, I think at Harvard, which said that the average family of four could live on $68 a year. that's a balanced diet--everything they need for a year. Now today that might be $250 or $300, but when we see these people in lines in supermarkets with all these food stamps, buying potato chips and snack foods and ice cream, I mean give me a break! *That's* poverty? Now you are probably wondering how you can live on $68 a year. The first thing you do is go to the Farm Bureau and buy a hundred-pound bag of powdered milk, like they feed the calves--there's nothing wrong with it; it tastes just like regular milk when you put a little water in it. that would probably last you the better part of a year. While you're at the Farm Bureau you buy yourself a bushel of wheat or corn, and you mash that stuff up. What you're eating isn't all that tasty--it kind of tastes like cornmeal mush--but it's healthy. And you grow some vegetables and you get a few vitamin pills to sipplement your diet. And I think that's exciting. You ought to really explore the cheapest ways to live. Living in a house trailer--my gosh, that was the greatest living I ever did. We bought a used house trailer for $1,400, and we paid about $30 a month for the lot. Now you can get a lot for $175 and you can buy a used house trailer for maybee $5,000. and you're building some equity in something; you're not paying rent. Oh gosh, I'd love to talk to all these people who say they can't get by." So, if by chance this is the winning entry and Mr. Monaghan doesn't want the _CSN_ subscription, I'll take it. :-) *---*--* | Brian Eggleston, Ph.D.| | | Associate Professor and Chair | "It is by invisible hands that we are| | Department of Economics | bent and tortured worst." | | Augustana College | | | Sioux Falls, SD 57197 | Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | *---*--*
Re: quiz
In addition to seconding 'answers' by Ellen Dannin and Doug Henwood, I will add that the stance reflects a twisted supply-side theology that suggests that God helps those who support the free market. Since the Invisible Hand is simply an avatar of God, God supports those who support Him. Seems like a Pareto Superior transaction, no? in pen-l solidarity, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ., Los Angeles, CA 90045-2699 USA 310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
Re: neolib primer
Lots. Two books I can think of (although not necessarily a primer) is Christopher Colclough and James Manor (eds) 1991, States or Markets? Neoliberalism and the Development Policy Debate (Oxford UP) and John Toye 1993, Dilemmas of Development: Reflections on the Counter-Revolution in Development Economics (Basil Blackwell). What could be a primer (at least a chapter therein) is Development Policy and Public Action (Wyuts, Mackintosh, Hewitt) Open Univ Press. None, as you might notice, are written by North Americans. Anthony D'Costa On Wed, 14 Dec 1994, Doug Henwood wrote: I got a call from an organizer/activist type who was looking for a primer on neoliberal orthodoxy - intellectual history, official rationale, sharp critique, etc. I was stumped. Does such a thing exist? Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax)
Feed Hungry Kids
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Cyberspace Christmas Campaign (fwd)
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