Re: Ken Starr

1998-02-02 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

 Apologies to all you non-USers - and maybe a few USers too - 
 who don't share the present obsession with Tailgate.

I'm heartily sick of even the New Zealand's press's obsession with 
what local cartoonist, Garrick Tremaine, has labelled Fornigate.

Bill

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Re: reviewing books

1997-12-25 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

"I never read a book before reviewing it; it prejudices a man so."
 Sydney Smith, 1771-1845.
 
Bill
   
 Date sent:  Wed, 24 Dec 1997 10:46:51 -0500
 From:   Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:Re: reviewing books
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Gerald Levy wrote:
 
 Doug has condemned Gillott and Kumar's book without reading it or even
 seeing a copy.  If what is good for the goose is good for the gander, then
 Doug should not object to others who have not read _Wall Street_ from
 condemning it sight unseen.  Perhaps Doug will now admit that his
 "review" of books prior to reading is more than a little problematic and
 speculative?
 
 You're right, Jerry, on the strength of this precedent, I think everyone
 should condemn Wall Street sight unseen. Or any other book s/he likes to
 hate. It's the holiday season; condemn generously!
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 





Re: Big Brother: Bill 160 (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Murray

!!!

Bill


 Forwarded message follows -

Date:  Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:28:32+0100 
From:  jurriaan bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject:   Re: Big Brother: Bill 160 (fwd) 
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In response to Valis:

Yeah I know what you are talking about.  In New Zealand Muldoon set up the
Security Intelligence Service in the late 1970s and they used to spy on
campus, registering political science students among other things.  The
biggest laugh was when an SIS agent was spotted with a Penthouse in his
briefcase.  

If the Canadian Government is doing draconian things like you say, the
students should respond by collecting some personal information "without
requiring permission" on Canadian politicians, publish it, and see how the
politicians like it. What does the Canadian Government need this
information for anyway ? To breed a new generation of model compliant
citizens ?

In solidarity

Jurriaan.

PS - for a New Zealand link on this issue, try Murray Horton at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  He's knowledgable in that area. 

   The Ontario government is poised to give itself the power to collect
   and disclose private information about students - including medical
   problems, sexual orientation and religious beliefs -without requiring
   the students' permission.
 Etc, etc. etc.
 
 Hey, just what gives with Ontario, anyway?  Should we expect boat people
 any time soon?
 The political pox raging there somewhat resembles the unlamented Muldoon
 government in New Zealand during the Reaganzeit.
 
 I suspect that when Quebec becomes sovereign Canada will simply dissolve,
 and the money folks in Ontario are doing their renovations in advance.
 
 Any knowledgeable comment from up there?
   valis
 
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Re: Big Brother: Bill 160 (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Sorry folks - just forwarded Juriaan's message to the list rather 
than its intended recipient!

Bill


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Re: Chossudovsky Award

1997-11-30 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

 Date sent:  Sat, 29 Nov 1997 13:06:38 +
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 Subject:Chossudovsky Award
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 First prize for citing Tom Lehrer first goes to 
 E. Dannin.  Honorable mention to Prof Rosenberg 
 for tracing the reference one layer back, and 
 also because I'm not certain, given his 
 extra-hemispheric location, whether he was first 
 or not.

Well done Ellen. I guess my consolation prize in lieu of a drink is 
this honary title of "Prof". Mind you, I don't know what this 
hemisphere-chauvinist view of the world is. If you consult the 
time zones in your atlas, you'll see that New Zealand is first in 
the world for everything! 

 
 BTW Bill, Maxine said hello back.  Her talk was 
 well received, though ten minutes before its 
 close the long hand of neo-liberalism conspired 
 to empty our building with a false-alarm fire 
 drill.

Thanks for passing this on.

Bill
 





Re: Global Financial Crisis II

1997-11-29 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

 "One man deserves the credit,
   One man deserves the fame,
   And Nicolai Ivanovich
   Chossudovsky is his name!
   (Hey!)"
 
 (First one to trace this gets a free drink at my 
 expense at the AEA meetings.)

Sawicky parody on Tom Lehrer, parody on Danny Kaye/Sylivia Fine 
("Stanislavsky").

Mind you, despite all this, Michel Chossudovsky has written some 
outstanding analyses - I can think of a couple on Africa and 
Yugoslavia. So I'm not conceding that Choss is a Lobachevsky 
by any means (unless it was the real Lobachevsky).

Just Email the drink thanks.

Bill


 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 1200
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 202-775-0819 (fax)   Washington, DC  20036
 
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Re: New Zealand Employment Contracts Act

1997-10-31 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

 
  Symposium on the New Zealand Employment Contracts Act

Sounds like this symposium has an all-star cast! 

Just to bring matters to do with the ECA up to date a little. The 
government is now considering effectively abolishing the current 
legislated entitlement to three weeks annual leave, by "allowing" 
workers to exchange some or all of their leave for money. This 
naturally will leave workers with low bargaining power with no 
holidays. A similar proposal may do the same for statutory holidays 
such as Christmas day. These are among a number of options in an 
official options paper leaked by the Alliance Party.

There is also a suggestion that employers be entitled to bargain 
directly with workers, completely bypassing the union. 

Doubtless other similar proposals are in store in a review of labour 
legislation currently being carried out by the government, results to 
be announced officially in the next few weeks.

Bill







The New Zealand Experiment

1997-10-22 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Those interested in the New Zealand Economic Experiment may be 
interested in a brief paper by Paul Dalziel, Reader in Economics,
Department of Economics and Marketing, Lincoln University. 

I reproduce its abstract and conclusion below. Paul has not yet had 
it accepted for publication, but is happy for it to be distributed 
and is interested in comments, so I can send a Word 6 version to 
those who are interested.

Bill Rosenberg


Abstract:

Evans, Grimes and Wilkinson's (1996) essay on New Zealand's economic 
reforms claims that real per capita income has risen above its pre-
reform trend, overseas debt has fallen, and the number of households 
experiencing poverty is no greater than before the reform program.  
This communication documents that the data producing these claims are 
not reliable.  Instead, there is still no clear-cut measured 
improvement in New Zealand's growth performance, overseas debt was 
significantly higher in 1995 than in 1984, and substantial income 
sacrifices between 1988 and 1993 doubled the number of households in 
poverty.


Conclusion:

New Zealand's program of economic reforms continues to attract 
international attention, and EGW's article is likely to be widely 
cited.  Using official and public data sets, however, the previous 
three sections allow the following statements to be made in contrast 
to the claims of EGW.  
1.  Using an absolute poverty standard, the number of households 
below the poverty line increased from 4.3 percent in 1984 to 10.8 
percent in 1993.
2.  Between March 1984 and March 1995, New Zealand's total overseas 
debt rose by almost 30 percentage points of GDP.
3.  New Zealand's real per capita output (based on working age 
population) in the year ending March 1995 was still 1.3 percent below 
the level that would have resulted had the economy continued to grow 
at the peak-to-peak trend rate of 0.795 percent per annum between 
1966/67 and 1981/82.
4.  The income sacrificed between 1987/88 and 1993/94 as a result of 
real per capita output being below its pre-reform trend was $11,500 
per working age person (in 1991/92 prices), or 32 percent of annual 
GDP.

These figures indicate why many economists in New Zealand remain 
cautious in our evaluation of the reforms.  The program's close 
adherence to economic theory should have raised the economy's long-
term potential.  Nevertheless, the output sacrificed and the poverty 
created during the transition phase of the program were substantial, 
and it is still not possible to demonstrate a clear-cut improvement 
in measured growth performance thirteen years after the reforms began.

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[PEN-L:11841] Re: Risk and Unequal Opportunity under cap

1997-08-17 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

I showed this post to my statistician colleague, Jim Young, whose PhD 
(on flood prediction!) went into subjective risk assessment in some 
depth. His comments (which don't answer Nathan's question!) follow.

Bill

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From:  "Young, Jim" WHIO/YOUNG2
Organization:  Lincoln University
To:    "Rosenberg, Bill" WHIO/ROSENBER
Date:  Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:23:22 +1200
Subject:   Re: [PEN-L:11819] Risk and Unequal Opportunity under capitalism

Bill

This issue is one for what I think are called 'decision-theorists'. 
For example, subjective utility theory is one of many possible
theoretical frameworks for decision-making.  Utility is a number
measuring the attractiveness of the consequences of a decision. 
People should, if convinced by the axioms of the framework, act so as
to maximise their expected utility.  Lindley (1971 p70-76) considers
that most people would wish to behave in a decreasing risk-averse
manner as the level of some desirable attribute increases -  but this
is not a requirement of subjective utility theory.  That is, as their
financial worth increases they will become 'more willing to gamble '
so to speak.  Or looking at it the other way round, as they become
poorer, they will become increasingly risk-averse.  Regards Jim

PS This stuff links in with a Baysian statistical perspective - you
have been warned!

Lindley D.V.  (1971)  Making decisions.  London: Wiley-Interscience,
195p.

 
 Date sent:  Sat, 16 Aug 1997 17:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
 From:   Nathan Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[PEN-L:11819] Risk and Unequal Opportunity under capitalism
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 I just finished off  Peter Bernstein's AGAINST THE GODS: THE REMARKABLE
 STORY OF RISK and found the book's history of risk analysis fascinating
 and, most compellingly, found some of the most recent studies he documents
 around the psychology of risk extremely pointed in showing how risk itself
 has a class divided nature.
 
 Much of present policy prescriptions, from stock market investments a s a
 replacement for social security to the level of indebtedness required of
 students as a risk of attending college, point to the average return on
 such risks, from the higher investment returns of the market to the higher
 wages gained from attending college.
 
 However, Bernstein documents a number of psychological studies that (not
 surprisingly) show that those with little become extremely risk adverse
 even when facing the same odds as those with more income (better than the
 real life situation where racism and networking privileges give upper
 income folks an advantage in most risk situations.)  The result will be,
 as Bernstein writes, that in any risk situation, "people who start out
 with money in their pockets will choose the gamble, while people who start
 out with empty pockets will reject the gamble."
 
 What this implies is that any social policy geared to rewarding risk will
 generally direct the incentives involved in social resources toward those
 with income. 
 
 I am curious what progressive policy folks or economists have explored
 this risk bias against the poor in their analysis of concrete social
 policy.  It seems especially relevant in education policy as students are
 looking at tens of thousands of dollars of debt as a normal price of
 college education.
 
 Any cites?
 

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[PEN-L:11722] Ellen Dannin in the New Zealand news

1997-08-13 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

People may be interested that Ellen Dannin received good coverage in 
the "New Zealand Herald", Auckland, New Zealand's largest circulation 
newspaper a week ago (4 August). Headlined "Employment legislation 
damned", subtitled "US labour expert Professor Ellen Dannin says the 
Employment Contracts Act is unintelligent and full of faults and 
predicts labour relations will deteriorate steadily", the 
generally sympathetic interview with her includes:

But how about all those jobs created in the past six years,
improved productivity and workplace harmony? "Slaves don't go on
strike too often," responds Professor Dannin, who has just
written a mercilessly critical book, called "Working Free",
about the legislation.

As for all those jobs, she does not think the labour laws had
anything to do with them. Well, how about higher productivity?
"Garbage statistics", says this former trial attorney for
America's National Labor Relations Board, author of many
articles on labour and employment law, and globe-trotting
lecturer.

Bill

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[PEN-L:11248] Why MAI?

1997-07-12 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

The MAI (Multilateral Agreement on Investment) sparked a long 
discussion on globalisaton in May, but here's a more specific 
question about this (type of) agreement that I'm puzzling over. 

The basic question is this: what is the (e.g. OECD, WTO) orthodox 
economist's rationalisation for such a treaty from the point of view 
of the host country?

My thoughts so far go like this:

1. Payment of investment incentives to foreign investors loses some 
of the benefits to the host country of the investment. However if 
countries compete for inward investment by paying incentives then 
that loss is more difficult to avoid. Hence it is in the interests of 
all host countries to cooperate in agreeing not to pay such 
incentives. (Significantly OECD cannot agree to include this in the 
MAI!)

2. If one assumes (as the orthodox economists do) that all foreign
investment is A Good Thing - i.e. a net benefit to the host country
- then it is in the interests of every host country to impose upon
itself all the other "disciplines" in the MAI to encourage such
investment - such as "non-discrimination" (National Treatment and
Most Favoured Nation), transparency of regulations, removal of
performance requirements, removal of restrictions on capital and
investment income flows, guarantee against expropiation, etc. 

Thus there is no need for common agreement to enforce these - i.e.
no loss to the common good if they are not enforced. In fact
individual countries can benefit by not signing such an agreement
because they can gain a competitive advantage by offering such
disciplines to attract investment, and that process would eventually 
make them universal.

Even if the economist conceded *some* foreign investment wasn't 
beneficial, in which case some form of performance requirements etc 
could be justified, the logic still holds.


If I am correct in the above, then it is only from the point of view 
of the *investors* that the MAI disciplines have a theoretical 
justification. 

Any corrections, comments?

Bill Rosenberg

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[PEN-L:11131] Re: Capital and the State

1997-07-06 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Eric Nilsson wrote: 

  If this is true, then IF international capital is to control 
  national states they must succeed in taking over control of  the
  hegemonic processes with a nation away from purely national 
  capital. This is likely hard to do. The more international 
  capital attempts to do this, the more national  capital will tend
  to organize hegemonic processes around  the notion of "our nation
  versus others". Or, perhaps  nationalist thinking is so well
  ingrained within national  cultures due to past hegemonic
  processes (via a  path dependency sort of process) that
  international  capital will likely be unable to overcome this 
  key fact.

This assumes the continued existence of independent national 
capital. That may be possible in (for example) the US and the EU, but 
in smaller nations like New Zealand, it is increasingly either taken 
over or becomes dependent on international capital. Dependence is 
either specific through contracting to one or more transnational, 
or general through dependence on international trade. To the extent 
locally based capital perceives some remnant of distinctly national 
interest, they may be attracted to the technocratic "rule-based" 
jurisdiction of the WTO and the like because that gives a slight hope 
of neutralising the arbitrary power of international capital wielded 
through the likes of the US and EU.

What this emphasises again is the disappearance of the former
possibility of a degree of common interest (a la Keynes) between 
working class and national capital.

Bill Rosenberg

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[PEN-L:10682] (Fwd) Top NEWSPEAK Stories of the Week #72 (

1997-06-08 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

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AMERICAN NEWSPEAK. Inflicted weekly at http://www.scn.org/news/newspeak
Celebrating cutting edge advances in the exciting field of Doublespeak!
Written by Wayne Grytting

Employees Gain Recognition

A survey of 900 corporations by the American Management Association found
that employers are taking a keen interest in the work of their employees.
In fact, 67% of the firms were so interested in their workers that they
practiced surveillance. The most widespread practice was monitoring phone
calls, practiced by 37% of the firms. Growing in popularity are the
practices of videotaping employees at work (16%) and reading e-mail and
computer files (15%). Many companies (23%) assist their workers by not
informing them of the surveillance and thus not adding to their
information overload. Critics of these management tools say it amounts to
spying. But this is a simple misunderstanding according to Eric Greenberg,
author of the AMA study, who "bristled" at the use of the term "spying".
"The focus here is on security and employee performance," Greenberg said,
"not on spying." He suggests the term "monitoring" be used instead. Or you
may prefer Bellsouth Corp.'s more delicate "observations".  (AP 5/22, WP
5/24)

Big Brother Comes to the Washroom

Corporations can now insure their employees have clean hands thanks to an
invention called Hygiene Guard. For a mere $1,500, Hygiene Guard can be
installed in any washroom. Employees need only wear a small badge. When
they enter the restroom an infared sensor is triggered. A second sensor at
the washstand is triggered if the employee stands in front of it for at
least 15 seconds. This information is then relayed to a computer. Failure
to use the soap dispenser causes the badge to blink, alerting all to the
unhygenic condition. NetTech International says this system will alert
employers to "miscreants who don't enter the lavatory all day or use it
too much." Obviously this is just the beginning. The mind reels at the
possibilities, like monitoring coffee consumption or the use of toilet
tissues. NetTech CEO Glenn Cohen defends their invention on public health
grounds, actually declaring, "Our belief is its time for Big Brother to be
concerned." Well, he is.  (WSJ 5/20, AP 5/20)

Union Relations, Northwest Style

How does a hip, post-therapy aged Seattle latte company view employees who
protest working conditions? Starbuck's has been facing an "unstrike" by
employees in the province of British Columbia. Unionized workers have
continued on the job but have been handing out leaflets to customers and
wearing union buttons. Senior vice-president Wanda Herndon says, "It is
very disappointing that we have a fraction of our partners who want to
have a third party that would come between our relationship." The
"partners", as Starbuck's calls its employees, earn the minimum wage in
British Columbia, $5.15 an hour in U.S. money. The shameless homewrecker
is the Canadian Auto Workers, who now organize service workers and have
even threatened Starbuck's with a strike. In words that reportedly caused
Henry Ford to roll over in his grave, Ms. Herndon responded, "(Starbuck's
Chairman) Howard Schultz is heartbroken that this has occurred because we
have a really wonderful and unique relationship with our partners." Stay
tuned to Oprah and Geraldo for future developments.  (Seattle Times 5/25)

States Rights Rises Again

Senators Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Ted Kennedy teamed up to sponsor what
should have been a no-brainer bill to raise tobacco taxes to fund health
insurance for children. But they didn't count on the keen analytical mind
of Sen. Jesse Helms. The bill was killed after Helms pointed out that not
only would this tax against the "politically incorrect" discriminate
against the working poor, a perennial Republican concern, but it would
interfere with states rights. The proposed tax increase from 25 cents a
pack to 67 cents would create a funding shortfall for states because it
would decrease the sales of nicotine sticks. The Republican Policy
Committee estimates it would cost states more than a $1 billion in lost
revenue each year .Concluded the RPC, "Even if one believes that decreased
demand for tobacco is positive from a societal view, it still has negative
fiscal aspects for the states." Letting the "Even if..." pass,  maybe we
could mandate a certain level of cigarette consumption to protect states
rights to sponge off tobacco.  (Cong. Rec. 5/21, NYT 5/21)

The Global Competitiveness Dept.

Singapore is once again the winner in the World Economic Forum's annual
ratings of the world's most competitive economies (in the nation-state
division). Hong Kong finished second followed by the U.S. and Canada.
Singapore and countries like Indonesia 

[PEN-L:10432] Getting The Big Picture

1997-05-30 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

This New Zealand newsletter on the WTO, trade etc may be of interest 
to list members.

Bill Rosenberg


Getting The Big Picture

The Big Picture is the quarterly bulletin of GATT Watchdog.  

Articles in Issue 10 of The Big Picture (May 1997) :

Dr Jane Kelsey (Associate Professor of Law, Auckland University) - "A 
Charter of Rights and Freedoms for Transnational Corporations" on the 
Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI).

RMALC (Mexican Action Network on Free Trade) - "The Civil Movement 
Against Neoliberalism in Mexico" on the Mexican people's movement 
against neoliberalism.

Dennis Small (Author of "The Cost of Free Trade: Aotearoa/New Zealand 
at Risk") - "Globalisation and the Corporatisation of New Zealand 
Agriculture" on NZ agriculture, producer boards, the free market, and the 
erosion of democratic control of the world's food supply..

Joyce Green (University of Alberta) - Canada, From Colonialism to 
Neoliberalism on colonialism, indigenous rights and Canada's embrace of 
free market economics

And much more!

Next issue out in August

A year's subscription costs NZ $15.  Cheques should be made payable to 
GATT Watchdog. 

Send to: The Big Picture, GATT Watchdog, PO Box 1905, Christchurch 
8015, Aotearoa (New Zealand)
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[PEN-L:10319] US-New Zealand Free Trade agreement?

1997-05-25 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

FYI: from the New Zealand Press Association (24/5/97)

 The United States has confirmed its interest in setting up a
 free trade agreement with New Zealand, Trade Minister Lockwood
 Smith said yesterday. Dr Smith met US trade Representative
 Charlene Barshefsky yesterday on the possibility of pursuing a
 free trade agreement similar in style to the Closer Economic
 Relations Agreement between New Zealand and Australia.

Bill


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[PEN-L:10206] Globalisation, socialist utopias, EU

1997-05-19 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Some thoughts on the last few days' discussion:

1. I see no contradiction between nationalism and internationalism -
though I do between chauvinism and internationalism, and between
nationalism and "transnationalism" in the sense of international
capitalism. I call myself an internationalist nationalist without
blushing. I take nationalist to mean "if we don't look after
ourselves, no-one else will", rather than "bugger the rest of the
world".

The most important way to support other people's causes is to fight 
for your own cause. The reality of "internationalism" is not some 
vague monolithic international revolution: it is that local
struggles around the world support each other. 


2. Isn't the conclusion of my free trade and investment analogy the
crux of the argument between Max and Sid regarding the nature
of the EU? That is, the EU can be socially progressive only if its
"federal" government has the power and will to redistribute incomes
and resources between EU regions. Does it do so significantly now? 
If not, is that for structural reasons (as the "Ecologist" article
and I think Sid would suggest) or for short-term political reasons
(as I think Max would suggest)? 


3. What has changed in capitalism? Bill Burgess gives the answer
that it used to be able to afford some concessions but can't now
because of falling profitability etc. I can't accept that: it is
some of the most profitable companies that are laying off the most
staff. And it was during the 50s and 60s when those concessions were
being made that we had some of the most vicious industrial attacks
and socially reactionary governments. 

An alternative explanation is that the *interests* of capitalism
have changed. Keynes pointed out a congruence of interests between 
worker and employer in a closed economy: that workers were also the 
employer's only customers. (There remained plenty of differences in 
interests of course!) That gave capitalists (as a class) a vested 
interest in the welfare state, higher wages etc. To the extent the 
closed economy has opened up (the beginning of this whole debate!), 
their interest in these "concessions" has declined. That will only 
change again if they saturate the labour resources of the world 
economy - and haven't found another planet full of labour to exploit 
by then! Or if we find some way to limit the openness of national 
economies - which incidentally applies whether they are capitalist or 
socialist.


4. I found the debate between Terry and Ken on how to create a (New
Zealand sized!) Socialist Utopia in the world economy interesting.
I'd interpret the outcome of the discussion to be that it would 
be very difficult for a socialist (let alone communist) economy to
retain its nature while remaining at least partly open to trade and
investment in the current world economy. I'd broaden that to make a
similar statement about relatively progressive capitalist economies.
Such economies were at least thinkable in the 1950s and 60s, but
apparently aren't now. What's changed?

Bill Rosenberg

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[PEN-L:10205] Re: influence?

1997-05-19 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Doug Henwood asked 

 Can anyone tell me how much influence the End of Work/Jobless Future thesis
 has within organized labor - U.S. and the rest of the world?

Note sure about this specifically, but the Council of Trade Unions
(CTU) here, which is the main central TU body, seems to take a lot
of the Reich-like stuff to heart. One of its main arguments against
the likes of the anti-union, anti-collective Employment Contracts
Act, and government policies in general is that they are aimed at
forcing low wages. Instead, it says, they should be aiming for a
high-wage high-skill economy. All sounds nice and plausible to the
public but tends to be an excuse for inaction and leave the unions
representing the lower-skilled in the lurch. Several of them have
left the CTU to their own Trade Union Federation (TUF) which has a
more activist, protectionist - though very internationalist - view.

Bill

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[PEN-L:10182] Re: (Fwd) Progressive web sites; NZ Web page

1997-05-17 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

This is in reply to a specific message from Paul about New Zealand
Web sites, and to his general request for progressive Web sites. 

The reply below comes from a Librarian at Lincoln University, where I
work, who has put together what is widely acknowledged as one of the 
most useful general Web sites in New Zealand, called Ara Nui. It 
is at 

http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/libr

I'd add to his list the following local one here in Christchurch
which has pages for a number of community groups and pointers to 
others.

http://canterbury.cyberplace.org.nz

For an excellent one on mining in one part of New Zealand (the 
Coromandel) see

http://binbro1.bitz.co.nz/watchdog/

Bill 

--- Forwarded Message Follows ---

From:   "Andrew White" KEA/WHITEA1
Organization:   Lincoln University
To: "Rosenberg, Bill" WHIO/ROSENBER
Date sent:  Fri, 16 May 1997 14:36:05 +1200
Subject:Re: (Fwd) NZ Web page

Bill

I can't think of any one useful site, but would suggest a few from my 
"Politics" page in Ara Nui at: 
http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/libr/nz/nzpolit.htm

especially:

NewsRoom http://www.newsroon.co.nz for excellent political news 
coverage, including press releases from MPs and parties

Alliance http://www.alliance.org.nz

Labour Party http://www.labour.org.nz

The best online newspaper (but hardly "progressive") is The Press at 
http://www.press.co.nz

As far as lists go, I don't know of any. There is a list of NZ Social 
Science related email lists at: http://www.massey.ac.nz/~NZSRDA/nzsorigs/elists.htm

Hope this helps,

Andrew 
 --- Forwarded Message Follows ---
 Date:  Thu, 15 May 1997 10:21 -0500 (CDT)
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   NZ Web page
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Bill,
   At a progressive dinner last night I was asked by a local
 retired minister (United Church) who is a member of a collective
 of progressive clergy who edit a newsletter devoted to social issues,
 including what has been happening in New Zealand.  I did a short piece
 for them last year but they want to keep up on a continuing basis.
 To make things short, he asked me if there was a progressive web
 page in NZ where he could keep himself current on what is going on
 downunder so I said I would contact you and ask your if you know
 of any such site.
   If not, is there any electronic bulletin board or list that he could
 subscribe to?
 Thanks,
 Paul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bill Rosenberg, Acting Director, Computer Services Centre, 
 Centre for Computing and Biometrics, room Hilgendorf H182, Ext 8010.
 PC network: WHIO/ROSENBER.  Vax: W.Rosenberg@Ono
 

Andrew White
Library
kea/whitea1  ext 8542

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[PEN-L:10117] EU, globalization and all that

1997-05-15 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

An analogy I like to use when thinking about the effects of free 
trade and investment is to the region of a country. I'd appreciate any 
comments on this approach.

It goes like this. 

We have plenty of examples of the effect of free trade and free
movement of investment on different areas of the world. Every
country is a free trade and investment zone internally and has its
relatively depopulated and/or underserviced and/or poor areas and
its booming wealthy ones. Some are effectively denuded of their
population. There is no guarantee of equal sharing of wealth and
development between regions within a country as small as New Zealand 
or as large as the US. (Those disparities are on top of the class
aspects of wealth distribution.)

What stops or slows that happening internationally? Regulation (such
as trade and investment controls), tariffs, exchange rates,
geography. Geography won't change (though technology does) but
regulation has been virtually outlawed, tariffs are being phased out,
and capital mobility and the financial markets are gutting the
usefulness of exchange rates. So we are heading towards the regional
extremes of poverty and privilege that we know occur within a country. 
Some countries may effectively die.

What allows people to tolerate these extremes within a country?
Partly it is free movement of people, but that can become part of the
problem. Principally it is the power of a central government to
redistribute resources and income - to the degree that is exercised.
For example, paying welfare benefits and building social services at
a level a depressed region could not afford, compensation for
environmental disasters or sacrifices, or explicit regional
development assistance.

So in the international context - either in a regional zone such as
the EU or NAFTA - or globally, free trade and investment policies
can be socially tolerable only under a central authority with the
power to redistribute. That implies a degree of democracy to which
that cental authority responds: difficult in the EU, non-existent
with NAFTA, almost impossible to imagine globally.

Any comments?

Bill





[PEN-L:10042] Re: globalization

1997-05-12 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Doug Henwood wrote 

 A question, though: aren't second-tier OECD countries like Australia and
 New Zealand as rich as they are because of their participation in an
 imperial system, of which "globalization" is one manifestation or
 interpretation? 

Well, I can't answer for them all but ...

The New Zealand colony was at one time described as "a glorious 
country for a working man" ("working" and "man" no slip of the pen 
I'd imagine). In other words it was orginally accepted by the British 
as a settler colony and only later with refrigeration did it become a 
source of cheap food. The function of the settler colony was to 
attract the poor and huddled masses - hence it had to pay them enough 
to attract them away from Britain. Much of this was actually paid for 
out of the proceeds of the colony itself - robbing land from the 
(indigenous) Maori, and developing it. But yes, New Zealand did 
become rich due to the fact that Britain wanted it to be rich. Which 
doesn't mean Britain didn't happily rip us off when it suited.

However we are well past that stage now as I think my earlier 
statistics indicate. We may be again (arguably, still) a (neo)colony 
but we are benefitting from imperialism only to the extent that 

(a) we have most of the trappings of a developed country and can 
therefore compete internationally on some high-added-value goods and 
on agricultural and forest products on the basis of high efficiency 
and thus appropriate a share of the imperial income. Arguably parts 
of the economy benefit from the imperial (i.e. WTO) trade 
rules, etc.; and 
(b) there are perhaps a few trade advantages we have 
with Europe that descend from colonial preferences; and
(c) New Zealand is a minor imperial power in the South Pacific. 
That we aren't much liked for that in the Pacific is I think true, 
but to ascribe a significant part of our wealth to it is not. New 
Zealand companies also have $20-$30 billion invested abroad - much 
less than inward investment; and

As to (a), our per capital income and competitiveness is now lower 
than for example Singapore which began life as a colony of the 
exploited sort (though perhaps not a typical one). (I would also 
guess that Singaporean investors own significantly more of New Zealand 
than New Zealand investors do of Singapore.) An argument that we 
are benefitting from imperialism on these grounds thus gets into 
murky waters. Our local rulers do think they get a net benefit from 
the WTO, but I would contest that - and certainly as far as benefit 
to working class people goes - as in my previous posting. Therein 
lies the crunch.

(b) is a pretty small part of New Zealand's exports now and is
gradually being absorbed into the systems set up by the WTO
agreements.


So I don't think your suggestion still holds for New Zealand, other 
than that trading is participating in the imperial system. For other 
countries, such as Canada, perhaps their net international investments 
give a different answer. Does the UK still have a large surplus on 
invisibles? I think so.

 Can't people be accused of happily playing the imperial game when
 it makes them richer, and complaining when that same system
 threatens that privilege?

Yes naturally, though as always, you do have to distinguish which 
"people" you mean. If the "people" are the capitalists who benefit 
directly, the answer is a pretty unequivocal yes, given the demise of 
national capitalism. If the "people" are the working class (et al)  
then there is always a struggle to obtain their share of these 
benefits, so "happily" might not be quite the word. It would take a 
stupendous and probably pointless feat of international solidarity 
to turn away (or rather decline to struggle for) the fruits of the 
imperial game.

 Actually, you could say the same about the U.S., couldn't you?

Yes, even more so, since the proceeds of imperialism are direct. But 
the same provisos about who you are talking about are important. It 
seems to me that part of the "globalisation" debate vis a vis the 
U.S. is that its companies used to "bring home the bacon" but are now 
are leaving home and treating home just like the colonies.

Bill





[PEN-L:10024] Re: globalization

1997-05-11 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Amidst all the debate on details of how and whether economic trends 
have changed I suspect we have forgotten where this current discussion
started: the new proposed MAI. From the perspective of a small
economy let me put a few points that tie this together:

* As Doug Henwood pointed out, small economies are naturally more
dependent on international trade investment than the large economies
(let's say the Triad of US/European Union/Japan) 

* therefore they are more susceptible to trade and investment being
used as leverage for political, commercial and economic purposes. 
They also have chronic problems in trying to manage their balance of 
payments while maintaining development and full employment.

* for most of them, the 50s to 70s were years of considerable
progress in that, while they almost certainly traded more (in
absolute and probably in relative terms) they also gained more
control of their economies through the demise of colonialism and the
use of various measures such as import controls, tariffs, exchange
and capital controls. The world economic institutions (IMF, GATT,
OECD, World Bank etc) while perhaps not benign, allowed such
controls.

* what is happening now is that those international institutions are
now becoming instruments of control - effectively international
regulatory bodies. The crucial question is: control in whose
interests? The evidence from the nature of negotiations and the
ruling directorates - and the resulting treaties - is that they are
almost entirely dominated by the Triad, and primarily by the US. But
these are not only government representatives, but increasingly
direct and indirect representation from the TNCs.

* thus the dependence on trade and investment by small economies now
forces them into accepting the loss of control these bodies dictate
(such as WTO and the proposed MAI), but without appreciable influence
in setting the rules. It is a return to [neo-]colonialism which is no
longer so directly related to exploitation by a single nation -
though certain nations still dominate. It is directly related to
the needs of TNCs who now see the utility in central (i.e. global)
government (!). 

* These institutions deliberately put such economies into a position
where (whether or not they trade more or less than they did in the
past) the benefits of their economies cannot be targeted to benefit
primarily their own populace. The benefits are targeted at
corporations and their hangers-on. This is the reality of
"globalisation" in New Zealand.

* this state of affairs has not come about simply because those
institutions grew of their own accord: they grew because of the
increasing power of international capital, and (because of the 
growth in size of the corporations, aided in part by international 
communications and computers) their need to expand their markets even 
further than before. That has been aided by similar internal 
developments in the small economies (companies "outgrowing" their own 
economies and demanding they be opened) as well as from the Triad. 
The success of the relatively controlled growth of the 50s-70s has 
bred its own demise.

So what I see from here as "globalisation" is - yes - in many ways 
a return to the colonialism of the past. But saying that is not to 
say "don't worry, it's nothing new". It is to say we've got back to 
where we never wanted to go again. While the developments of the 50s-
70s were far from utopian, they were in many ways *heading* in the 
right direction: towards an independence that allowed a country 
(internal politics permitting) to manage its economy for the benefit 
of its people.

I suspect the problems in the Triad economies are related but 
somewhat different in nature.

Another way to view this is to ask the question: if you were to 
design your own socialist utopia(!), assuming the rest of the world is 
as it is now, how would you deal with international trade and 
investment? Could you under the current rules? If the answer is 
"no", then how do we bring about global change when most of us are 
struggling to bring about local change?

By the way, Ed Herman mentioned a paper by David Felix. Another by
Felix is "Financial Globalization versus Free Trade: the Case for
the Tobin Tax", David Felix, UNCTAD/OSG/DP/108, Nov 1995, where 
he tries to quantify some of the effects of reducing currency 
controls and of the intense financial activity on economic policy 
since the 40s. He includes a good collection of data on the magnitude 
of currency trading. Though I'd like to agree with him, I didn't find 
the case he put entirely convincing, but there's lots of technical 
stuff I don't understand. I put together a summary but then thought 
it wasn't worth posting: I can post it if anyone's interested.

Bill Rosenberg





[PEN-L:9941] Re: Tavis, you're *still* wrong

1997-05-07 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

I agree with Sid on this. Some examples in New Zealand:

- a life insurance company recently taken over by a UK one will
  now have all its investments managed from in Australia - the local
  office is closing. Presumably they still have agents here.
- as with Canada, dozens of bank branches are closing weekly, with  
  associated redundancies of tellers. This is immediately due to
  ATMs and Point of Sale (EFTPOS) and the like. But the newest 
  competitor in the mortgage market has no branches and works
  only by phone - and offers interest rates about 0.5% less. That
  phone could answered here or in Australia (it's run by one of the 
  biggest Australian life insurance companies)
- if I ring for service from Digital Equipment for our computers here
  I'm as likely to get answered from Australia (I can tell by their
  accents - they do speak a kind of English) as from somewhere in
  New Zealand
- all Telecom operator and directory services are centralised into
  a couple of locations nationwide.
- even Police 111 (your 999) calls are being centralised - a matter
  of considerable controversy because Auckland cops don't know where
  a street is in Hamilton

Isn't the point that workers in those industries are feeling these 
encroachments at the margins? There may be lots of them working in 
those industries still, but their bargaining power is determined by 
the steady loss of jobs, and threat of more, rather than what is 
left.

Bill Rosenberg


 Date:  Wed, 07 May 1997 17:14:53 -0700 (PDT)
 From:  D Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   [PEN-L:9939] Tavis, you're *still* wrong
 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Tavis:
 
 My contention is that service markets aren't as globalizable as 
 manufacturing markets.
 
 Sid:
 
 I don't think this is anything more than a contention.
 
 Tavis:
 
 The same types of jobs you describe in telecommunications (operator 
 services) have their analogues in many other sectors: Claims processing 
 in health care, credit card and loan processing in banking, catalog sales 
 in retail trade.  They can all be moved anywhere around the country 
 (though I suspect that language difficulties at least would make it hard 
 to move them across borders).  
 
 Sid:
 
 The work doesn't necessarily involve speaking.  If it does, English is spoken 
 by folks across Canada, the U.S. and Britain, as well as by a great many 
 educated folk around the world; Spanish is spoken in Europe, Mexico and 
 South America, as well as across the U.S., etc.
 
 But the key thing is that a great of this work is computer-based and doesn't 
 involve speaking at all.  The maquila-based postal sorting (by Spanish-
 speaking workers sorting mail that's located in Chicago) is prototypical of 
 what I'm describing.  By the same token, remote trouble analysis of the 
 phone system can be done in the same locale as where the trouble is or 
 across the world.  
 
 It's not just low end jobs that we're talking about, either.  The Indian 
 software industry is state-of-the-art in sophistication, but it pays wages that 
 are a fraction of those paid software writers in Europe and North America.  
 This is what makes Robert Reich's promotion of education, training and 
 skills such a meaningless response to capital's restructuring of work; capital 
 doesn't have to choose between high skills and high wages on the one hand 
 and low skills and low wages on the other.  It can have *both*.
 
 Tavis:
 
 However most jobs in health care (nursing and assistance, hospital clerical 
 and mainaintance work), banking (teller and sales work), and retail trade 
 (person-to-person sales, service) are much harder to move very far.
 
 Sid:
 
 You're over generalizing here, Tavis.  Hospital clerical work can be handled 
 in exactly the same manner as what I described in the phone industry.  It 
 can easily be provided at the end of a phone line or by forcing people 
 signing in or out of hospital to provide their personal information via a 
 computer screen. Banking tellers are going the way of the dodo bird.  At 
 least in Canada, their numbers are dropping precipitately (I doubt this is 
 unique to this country) as their ranks are replaced by computerized tellers 
 and ATMs.
 
 You keep pushing examples of face-to-face contact.  But the point is that 
 this is exactly what is being targeted and reduced, replaced by the use of 
 computerized services.
 
 Sid
 

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[PEN-L:9923] Re: Whole Language

1997-05-06 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

On 4 May, Ellen Dannin wrote

 Today's Los Angeles Times has a long piece criticizing NZ's reading 
 methodology -- whole language v. phonics. The article says that employers 
 are complaining that they can't get literate workers.
 
 Periodically groups like the NZ Business Roundtable have 
 advocated privatizing public education or making moves in that direction. 
 
 Could you provide any context for the current debate, the 
 relatively declining international test figures, and how it fits in other 
 aspects of the liberalisation of NZ's economy?

I asked Liz Gordon, the author of the article Ken Hanly referred to 
(6 May), to commment. Liz is a former lecturer in Education at the University of 
Canterbury and now Alliance Member of Parliament and their 
spokesperson on education. She says:

Bill - I don't know about expert comment but there's quite a lot to
say.

 The declining standard of educational achievement in New Zealand - in
language and other areas - has nothing to do with specific  teaching
methods, which have remained unchanged for a number of years.  The
evidence from the IEA comparative studies of literacy show that New
Zealand is declining in comparison to other countries because the
performance of our lowest-achieving students is declining.  Why is
that happening?  The main reason is that increased social inequalities
always impact on educational outcomes. We have much wider disparities
of wealth and income in new Zealand now, and that is necessarily
reflected in our educational outcomes, just as it does in the United
States, where falling educational standards have also been experienced
as inequalities increased.  The right have opportunistically (is that
a word) hung their own conservative views of how language and literacy
should be taught onto the achievement figures, and have come up with
quite he wrong explanation.

I am not, by the way, defending how we teach literacy to children - I
don't know enough about that debate.  But that is irrelevant to
current circumstances.

Must go - there's politics to do.

Love,  Liz


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[PEN-L:9908] Re: Whole Language

1997-05-06 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

 Today's Los Angeles Times has a long piece criticizing NZ's
 reading methodology -- whole language v. phonics. The article says
 that employers are complaining that they can't get literate
 workers. 

 Periodically groups like the NZ Business Roundtable
 have advocated privatizing public education or making moves in
 that direction.
 
 Could you provide any context for the current debate, the 
 relatively declining international test figures, and how it fits in other 
 aspects of the liberalisation of NZ's economy?

That's a big question! I don't have much on this other than general 
knowledge. As far as I am aware, international comparisons with our 
junior classes put their reading skills at number one. Maths and 
other skills fare less well, but by no means badly.

I'll see if I can get some expert comment.

Bill Rosenberg





[PEN-L:9907] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Glo

1997-05-06 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Doug Henwood wrote 

 New Zealand politics is very conscious (perhaps hyper-
 conscious) of the ability of financial dealers to
 manipulate the economy, and it has been used as a scare
 tactic frequently during recent elections.
 
 And since it's used as a scare tactic, that makes it especially important
 to understand the mechanisms of damage.
 
 Maybe Krieger did NZ a favor: growth was 0.6% in 1986, 0.7% in 1987, and
 2.3% in 1988.

Maybe we need him again: Goldman Sachs (among many others) reckon our 
currency is overvalued by about 15% meaning exporters are going out 
of business or moving their operations overseas. 

But seriously, is that the way to run an economy in the interests of 
its people? 

The threat is something like
- each devaluation increases New Zealand's foreign debt (in March 
1996 79.1% of GDP and recently increased again) 
- it will be more difficult to renew debt, or higher interest 
rates will be paid, and political prices will be (attempted to be) 
exacted
- implications for the Balance of Payments (mitigated by improved 
export competitiveness)
- therefore threat of company closures and job losses etc

In present circumstances some devaluation would probably be a net 
improvement; however if devaluation continued because of deliberate 
action by investors, the company closures are a real threat.

 
 As for the globalization issue. A small country like NZ, or even Canada,
 has no choice but to trade extensively with the outside world. NZ couldn't
 maintain a First World standard of living on the basis of internal demand
 alone.  So the question isn't really "globalization" vs. its
 still-unspecified opposite, but the terms on which the country engages with
 the outside world. Which is yet another reason I'd like to see a moratorium
 on the term globalization: it's a mystifying term best left to publicists,
 whose business is mystification.

Yes we must trade, but that isn't the same as submitting to 
globalisation. New Zealand traded at the same level in 1960 as it 
does now (exports/GDP) but was higher in the international standard of 
living ranks than it is now. It has fallen in the ranks as 
the economy has been opened to imports and foreign investment - 
i.e. more exposed to the "global" economy.

So the distinction between then and now is the degree to which  
a capitalist economy can filter out the bad effects of the world 
economy while still allowing the beneficial ones to come through. The 
filters were never perfect, but it appears that now they are not 
possible to maintain.

But it is indeed the fact that we must trade, and the fact that the 
major industrialised nations are the main source of capital and so 
don't have the same problems associated with foreign debt and 
investment, that distinguishes the fate of smaller industrialised 
countries.

Bill Rosenberg
 





[PEN-L:9876] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

My posts on this are going to be constrained by this
being a out-of-worktime activity for me (see my
signature) despite the topic being close to my heart.
Here's a few comments on the messages that have flown by
since my last. Sorry if it's a bit long - it's quicker
for me that way!

1. Doug Henwood wrote (2 May) "I agree that financial
activity can be destructive, but I don't think that case
can be made simply by citing figures about turnover. I
think it has to be made a lot more carefully than that
"

An interesting example from New Zealand: a U.S. Bankers
Trust dealer, Andrew Krieger, claimed that in late 1987
he "played" several hundred million - possibly as much as
a billion - New Zealand dollars against New Zealand's
currency, leading to a fall by 10% of the value of the
New Zealand dollar ("The Money Bazaar - inside the
Trillion-dollar world of Currency Trading", Andrew J.
Krieger with Edward Claflin, Times Books N.Y., 1992,
p.93ff).

New Zealand politics is very conscious (perhaps hyper-
conscious) of the ability of financial dealers to
manipulate the economy, and it has been used as a scare
tactic frequently during recent elections.

2. Doug also wrote (4 May) in reply to my comments that
the recent changes in the New Zealand economy were due to
opening it, i.e. globalisation: (mentions Jane Kelsey's
book and Bruce Jesson) "... But I thought that one reason
the New Zealand economy developed problems in the 1970s
was that Britain stopped buying butter and lamb, causing
tremendous dislocations. Was that relation to Britain pre-
globalized?"

In fact it was. (The problems of the 1970's actually were
a mixture of the above and the oil "crisis" but that
distinction probably doesn't matter here.) Until WWII,
New Zealand's exports were almost entirely meat and dairy
products to Britain under privileged trade arrangements
which suited Britain because they provided cheap food.
From the 1940's until the 1960's the rest of the New
Zealand economy was heavily protected - most
distinctively by import controls. That had two purposes:
to protect developing industry, and to prevent a current
account blowout due to the demand generated by
(genuinely, believe it or not) full employment. Not your
6% NAIRU this - only a few thousand out of work at any
time.

This protectionist policy (developed by one of the few
genuine nationalist settler New Zealanders that New
Zealand has ever had, Bill Sutch, later falsely accused
of being Soviet spy in order to discredit him) was
developed very consciously to counteract the
"globalisation" effects of unpredictable farm produce
prices - the aim was to balance the reliance on farm
produce with industry in order to achieve full
employment.

One reaction to the entry of Britain to the EEC (which
stopped the privileged arrangements) could have been to
continue with the protectionist policies while new
markets were found (as markets have been). Instead the
then (Labour) government borrowed abroad, and that policy
continued, in the end being one of the pressures for
fully opening the economy in 1984. So in a sense, Doug
you are right: there always have been globalising
pressures. But in the past we've been able to resist the
worst effects of them.

Then Doug says in response to my comment that the
Keynesian revolution of the 1930s was to try to protect
against earlier forms of globalisation, at least in New
Zealand, "Wasn't one of the most characteristic features
of the 1930s the collapse of world trade? That is, wasn't
`de-globalization' both a cause and a symptom of crisis?"

Certainly a symptom, but in New Zealand's case (and more
generally) there were national solutions found. Isn't the
fact that national economies are no longer able (or
allowed) to find such solutions an indication that
globalisation has intensified? And sure WWII is a
confounding factor here, but again, I think in the case
of New Zealand-sized countries that wasn't necessary for
recovery.

3. Colin Danby (4 May) wrote regarding Foreign Ownership,
that "the claim seems to be that foreign owners are less
rooted and less vulnerable to local pressure, and that
previously-existing worker-capitalist compacts, overseen
by social-democratic states, are thereby jeopardized." He
suggested that required an industry-by-industry analysis,
and that foreign competition may be just an excuse for
recessionary policies. Bill Burgess (4 May) makes a
similar point.

What most distinguishes "foreign" owners is not their
foreign-ness but their footloose-ness. Locally owned
transnationals have the same characteristic: that they no
longer depend for their own workers (to oversimplify) for
demand for their products.  Even where they do (in
service industries) they can still credibly threaten to
move somewhere more profitable. The same logic applies to
an extent to exporters, though what moderates that is the
degree to which they also supply the domestic market
(their own workers). Thus both FDI and increasing
dependence on 

[PEN-L:9866] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Glo

1997-05-04 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Bill Burgess wrote

 Just to clarify: the figures I quoted for Canada were for foreign
 **control** (ownership of more than one half of voting equity or its
 equivalent (or one-third if this voting block is more than the next two
 ownership block combined). These figures do **not** capture **portfolio**
 investment. e.g. there is large portfolio investment in Canadian
 hydroelectric companies, but control remains "Canadian resident". 

and the New Zealand figures are for the legal definition of
"overseas company" - i.e. more than 24.9% foreign. Some of those are
arguably not foreign-controlled (e.g. 58% of shares of companies
listed on the NZ Stock Exchange are foreign owned), but the great
majority are. That is, the great majority by number - probably 105 
out of the 118 "overseas companies" in the Top 200 in 1995. By 
turnover or assets, about 2/3 or 1/2 (resp) of overseas companies in 
the 1995 Top 200. To that extent the 1982-83 figures I quoted and my 
more recent figures overstate the comparative situation.

  ... By this measure, the ratio of inward
  FDI to GDP was 14.4% in 1989 and 46.7% in 1995. Outward
  FDI to GDP was 1.3% in 1989 and 13.4% in 1995, though one
  wonders whether some of these increases are simply
  because Statistics New Zealand have got better at
  measuring.
  
 The data in front of me, which does not include portfolio investment 
 (it is taken from the UN World Investment Directory) yeilds an inward
 FDI/GDP ratio of about 7.8% and outward FDI/GDP of 5.6% in 1992 for New
 Zealand, i.e. considerably less than Canada's 19.5% and 14.1%. So by this
 standard, Canada is more foreign dominated than New Zealand.

I can't reconcile these two sets of figures for New Zealand! Using 
Statistics New Zealand's International Investment Position figures, 
in 1992 the ratios were 31.1% inwards in 1992 and 15.8% outwards 
(we're talking stocks here, not flows aren't we?).

  Why should we protect national capitalists via opposing
  the MAI, etc, asked Bill Burgess. In New Zealand's case,
  primarily to reduce dependence on foreign capital, which
  is demonstrably leading government policy. 
 
 I don't disagree with your analysis of the effects on the "national"
 economy, balance of payments, etc. But I don't think it is workers or
 socialists responsibility to solve the problems of capitalist economies.
 Isn't the point that we **can't** do this, that there **is no real
 solution** under capitalism? I don't mean this in an ultra-left
 sloganeering fashion, but as the analytical framework for our policy
 interventions, which I should focus on protecting working people
 today while aiming towards the socialist alternative. 

I don't fundamentally disagree with your analysis either. But 

(1) recent experience has shown that policies favoured by foreign
capital are considerably more brutal towards workers, and less 
susceptible to pressure, even than the previous reactionary regime.
There are logical reasons for this to be so. Hence these policies 
are important for the protection of working people. They are a 
necessary but not sufficient condition.

(2) As a matter of their self-interest, I don't think (what remains
of) the New Zealand national capitalist class can survive under
these conditions: they become simply compradore capitalists with a
very shakey future. There are contradictions between the policies 
being followed.

  That provides some evidence for the old arguments that
  less dependence on foreign capital could be used to
  improve employment, wages, and government services, and
  with less risk of a current-account blow-out.
  
 As I suggested in a previous post, most FDI occurs in fairly
 large scale and capital intensive forms, so naturally employs relatively
 less labour. How would changing the citizenship of its owners alter this?

I said "could be used to improve ..." which is essentially a
political message to those used to thinking "there is no alternative"
(and believe me, that is the mood in New Zealand).  You're right
that it wouldn't necessarily be. But as a matter of record, foreign
ownership of our large privatised corporations like Telecom and New
Zealand Rail has led to dramatically falling employment in them,
despite them having previously been "rationalised" by the government
in processes designed to get them ready for sale. In addition, 
firms have been taken over and their production moved to another 
country, losing jobs in New Zealand. So in practical terms, foreign 
ownership *has* reduced employment.

 
 But I think the the main point is that there is a very real political
 cost in countries like Canada and New Zealand to nationalist ideology and
 protectionist measures. To put it in blunt terms, it is a **bigger**
 problem than foreign investment or control.

This I don't follow. Solving the problems of foreign control are a
prerequisite to solving the other problems: to repeat, they are
necessary, but not sufficient. It is a delusion to attempt a 

[PEN-L:9861] Re: Globalization

1997-05-03 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Michael Perelman wrote:

 I want to thank everyone involved in this debate.  It may be unique in
 the history of pen-l, since I see us moving toward an agreement.  Let
 me  pose a few questions.
 
 1) We probably have to distinguish between the colonial, semi-colonial
 (Latin American, eg), small independent (New Zealand, eg) and major
 industrial countries.  I suspect that we are not making absolute
 statements about globalization that pertain to all economies.

This is an absolutely essential point that I was going to make
myself. Even the progressive view from the heights of capitalist
economies is different from those lower in the food chain! I think
almost everyone in New Zealand would agree that the changes of the
last 13 years (and in fact earlier) have been due to opening of the
economy - globalisation. Where they differ is whether it's good or
bad. The pressure for change came from within as well as without: big
New Zealand companies outgrew the local market.

 
 2) We know of many cases in which companies either moved offshore or
 threatened to do so for concessions.  Also, many others outsourced some
 of the work abroad.  How important are these incidents?

I can't quantify this for New Zealand, but it is happening
continuously and hence is a constant and conscious threat to workers
negotiating contracts as well as to some of their employers. It is
also a threat to New Zealand's intellectual capital: there is a
perceivable trend towards innovative startup companies being bought
up and (often) moved off shore. Research and development is done
largely by local companies (a little) and public institutions (most).

 
 3) If globalization is occuring very rapidly, we know that the corporate
 sector seems enthusiastic about pursuing it.  (Evidence: Witness
 Clinton, a weather vane for the corporate winds).  How much of an effect
 would globalization have?
 
 4) If globablization is not an important factor, by overestimating it,
 have we underestimated other aspects of corporate power.

The argument that globalisation is not an important factor seems to 
be built on two main observations: no increase in international trade
as a proportion of output, which I accept; and reflecting on classical
colonialism and the likes of the Dutch East India Company, etc a 
century or more ago. 

Is it relevant that we saw similar waves of globalisation a century 
or two ago? Surely a large part of the Keynesian revolution of the 
1930s was to try to protect against earlier forms of 
globalisation (at least it was here in New Zealand). To some degree 
it was successful, and it is the loss of that degree of success that 
we are bemoaning. That is, without saying Keynesianism is the 
answer, we would like to build on previous successes and lessons 
learned, rather than return to the bad old days.

 
 5) Finally, and perhaps most importantly, we must distinguish between
 the flows of goods and services and movements of finance.  The threat
 of  capital flight seems to be sufficient to hog tie any government that
 spooks financial markets.  This aspect certainly seems to have at least
 great potential importance.

Yes!

Bill Rosenberg

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[PEN-L:9843] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-02 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Sid Schniad's and Doug Henwood's figures on speculation
and foreign investment in the world economy, and Bill
Burgess's on Canada were interesting. I'd always had the
impression Canada was more neo-colonised than New
Zealand. However you might like to consider these figures
for New Zealand:

A New Zealand Reserve Bank survey in 1996 [1] showed
*daily* New Zealand foreign exchange market turnover in
1992 of US$4.2 billion, which had risen to US$7.2 billion
by 1995. In 1995 only 56% involved the NZ$.

By way of comparison, New Zealand's GDP in the March 1993
year was about US$41 billion and in the March 1996 year
about US$59 billion. The *annual* New Zealand Stock
Exchange turnover is about US$8.5 billion. Merchandise
exports in the year to March 1993 were about US$10
billion, and to March 1996 about US$13 billion, so
exports accounted for about 0.9% and 0.7% of currency
turnover in the two years. The New Zealand dollar is said
to be the 7th most traded currency in the world!

To add to Doug's table, New Zealand exports have gone
from 24.8% of GDP in 1980 to 23.8% in 1994. The ratio
rose more or less steadily from 1961 to 1980 and 81, then
began falling until 1990, when it began rising again,
peaking in 1993.

However, the picture is considerably different in foreign
investment, to the extent it can be estimated. The last
official figures for foreign ownership of assets (a la
Bill Burgess) were in 1982-83, which indicated foreign
companies had 25.6% of the paid-up capital of the
companies in the survey (which was not complete). 36.8%
of tax-assessable income and 32.4% of dividends paid went
to these foreign companies. In a paper I completed
recently [2], using data from the New Zealand Top 230
companies (including financial institutions) and
elsewhere, I concluded that in 1995, over half of company
operating surplus (earnings before interest and tax) went
to foreign companies in New Zealand. There are no asset
figures available for such a comparison. However it
appears there has been a substantial increase in foreign
control of the New Zealand economy in that period.

Since 1989 there have been official statistics on New
Zealand's International Investment Position, which shows
assets held in New Zealand by foreigners and overseas
assets held by New Zealand residents. Foreign investment
in New Zealand (including portfolio) has risen from NZ$51
billion to NZ$97 billion from 1989 to 1995 and New
Zealand investment abroad from NZ$7.2 billion to NZ$23.4
billion. The net position has gone from -NZ$44.1 billion
to -NZ$73.3 billion. By this measure, the ratio of inward
FDI to GDP was 14.4% in 1989 and 46.7% in 1995. Outward
FDI to GDP was 1.3% in 1989 and 13.4% in 1995, though one
wonders whether some of these increases are simply
because Statistics New Zealand have got better at
measuring.

Almost the entire New Zealand financial sector is foreign
owned. In 1996, 24 out of the "Management" magazine top
30 institutions, including almost all the biggest ones,
were foreign, as were 122 out of the top 200 non-
financial companies.

Some of the effects:
- when the economy "booms" to the extent that company
profits increase, the current account goes worse into
deficit because of the increasing dividend and interest
payments abroad.
- a dysfunctional exchange rate. It is set by interest
rates attracting foreign investors and foreign investor
"confidence" in the New Zealand government rather than
"real" transactions.
- hence New Zealand has a chronic, worsening, current
account deficit (currently 4.2% of GDP) and steadily
increasing foreign debt. Private foreign debt has risen
from 9.8% to 54.6% of GDP between 1983 and 1996, though
government foreign debt has fallen, offsetting the rise.
Total foreign debt has risen from 46.7% to 79.1% of GDP
in the same period.
- funnily enough, it wrecks the monetarist Reserve Bank's
attempts to control inflation using the exchange rate
(encouraging it to rise to reduce internal prices) and
interest rates. Higher interest rates increase the
exchange rate because they attract foreign investors,
threatening inflation targets and damaging exporters.
Importers of course don't reduce their prices when the
exchange rate rises.
- craven foreign-investor-friendly policies by New
Zealand governments, with which you'll be familiar.

Why should we protect national capitalists via opposing
the MAI, etc, asked Bill Burgess. In New Zealand's case,
primarily to reduce dependence on foreign capital, which
is demonstrably leading government policy. But a few
other figures I calculated from the Top 200 are
interesting:
- after-tax profit per employee was $20,000 for New
Zealand companies, and $29,800 for foreign companies
- though they took half the operating surplus, they
employed only 18% of the full-time workforce.
- turnover per employee was lower for foreign than New
Zealand companies in most industrial classifications. New
Zealand's overall rate of growth in labour productivity
has fallen since 

[PEN-L:8930] Re:Marilyn Waring

1997-03-15 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

In general I agree with Bill Cochrane's comments on Marilyn Waring.
She was after all elected as a National Party member of Parliament. 
At that stage in its life, National was Tory in the most
traditional way: socially and economically reactionary, though 
not yet globalist or anti-interventionist. However I wouldn't be quite
as dismissive as Bill C. She does have useful and thoughtful things
to say about issues such as feminism and of course the feminist
economics that started this discussion. I suppose my view is partly
coloured by the fact that New Zealand is currently a desert when
looking for people who are willing to speak out with anything
significantly different from the current market-is-god form of
political correctness.

I wouldn't go as far as Bill C. on Helen Clark, leader of
the Labour Party. She is undoubtedly intelligent and hard working. 
But she is also willing to put up with central aspects of her 
party's policy which would negate any remnants of social democratic 
conscience. She was, after all, a prominent figure in the 
Lange/Douglas cabinet. There are equally hard working but 
more principled women in the Alliance I'd nominate in her place. And 
of course Jane Kelsey.

Marilyn Waring certainly wasn't the only woman in Parliament. It's a
very long time, 60 years or so, since there was only one woman in
the New Zealand Parliament. She may well have been the only woman in
the National Party caucus though, and being a radical woman
amongst a bunch of dyed-in-the-wool tory chauvinists of the old
school would have been an alienating experience to put it mildly.

Bill Rosenberg


 Comrades
 I write this with some trepidation, given the view in many quarters that
 Marilyn Waring should be elevated to the status of at least saint, perhaps
 a medium league deity.
 Marliyn Waring is and always has been a tory, albeit of a liberal kind. She
 is no friend of unions or a number of other traditional "left" progressive
 organizations and IMHO it would be ill advised to expect much in the way of
 progressive, in the left wing sense, thought from this individual and even
 less in the way of deed, despite what some of her apologists might say.
 As an aside it is inaccurate to state that Ms Waring was the only women
 member of parliament at the time of her election and I would be interested
 in the source of this particular statement.
 If one wanted to single out a women in NZ politics who is both intelligent,
 capable, hard working and has at least a residual commitment to social
 democratic principles I would nominate the current leader of the Labour
 party Helen Clark. If you like academics then try Jane kelsey.
 I say this largely because when tory scum masquerade as progressives it
 makes me want to vomit.
 Cheers
 
 Bill Cochrane
 Centre for Labour and Trade Union Studies
 University of Waikato
 Hamilton
 New Zealand
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[PEN-L:8794] Re: capital mobility restrictions

1997-02-28 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Mike

Got the article on capital mobility - many thanks.

Bill

 





[PEN-L:7198] Re: Marilyn Waring

1996-11-03 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Ken Hanly wrote ...
 Waring was an MP for three terms in New Zealand. From the video it seemed as if
 she were more or less retired to a small farm where she appreciates the
 lifestyle. She had travelled throughout the world doing time studies of women's
 versus men's work. As she points out in many societies the work done by most
 women would not be counted since it does not produce income.

She's currently a lecturer (in Political Science I think) at Massey 
University's Auckland (Albany) campus as far as I know. She was 
previously at Waikato University and left there with a very public 
blast at the quality of her colleagues.

   Did she play any role in criticising neo-liberal policies in New
 Zealand during the eighties and nineties or has she more or less retired
 from the fray? Is she well regarded as a feminist economist? I found her at
 times a bit simplistic but then this was a video after all. I now have her
 book IF WOMEN COUNTED. Have others opinions on this book?

I don't know if it's the same book as "Counting for nothing: what men
value and what women are worth", Allen and Unwin, Wellington New
Zealand, 1988. This is a critique of how the GNP is put together,
much on the lines of the video. As a non-economist I found it excellent
for what it was, though its main weakness as I recall it was that
it barely recognises the existence of classes: the analysis is
largely feminist and "developed vs undeveloped" world. I think it has 
been reasonably influential on the left here in New Zealand, with the 
Alliance Party calling for alternative definitions of the nation's 
wealth as part of its political platform.

She hasn't been particularly vocal about neo-liberalism per se as far as I 
am aware, but she has spoken widely on the issues in the book and 
would I think be counted as an opponent of neo-liberalism.

She has considerable public respect because she was one of the few
Members of Parliament of the National (conservative) government
who stood up to its leader, Robert Muldoon, a noted 
bully. He called a snap election in 1984 blaming it on her because
she was threatening to vote against her party on an opposition
measure banning nuclear warships in New Zealand. 

There are a number of deep ironies in this. The Muldoon government
was a conservative government in the 1970's interventionist, socially
reactionary sense. It was replaced by the Lange/Douglas led
neo-liberal Labour Party which, without a mandate, effectively took
the country even further to the Right. The nuclear-free legislation Waring
supported was promoted by Richard Prebble who was then in the Labour
Party and is now the leader of ACT (Association of Consumers and
Taxpayers!) Party which won eight seats in our recent election with a
purist policy that the Douglas neo-liberal policy had yet to be
completed.

Bill Rosenberg

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[PEN-L:6853] Re: New Zealand living standards

1996-10-22 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Bill

 
 The data is hard to interpret. Could you append it with some distributional
 data?

Sorry - I've only got news media reports at present.

Bill Rosenberg

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[PEN-L:6823] New Zealand living standards

1996-10-21 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

For those followers of New Zealand on the list, the following NZ 
Press Association item will be of interest, particularly since the 
period covers most of the economic restructuring which began in 1984. 
(Note that Statistics New Zealand (SNZ) is the semi-commercialised, 
but still state-owned, Department of Statistics.)


 Average  weekly  household  spneding  fell  12%  in  real  terms
 between  1986  and  1995,  according  to  a  book  published  by
 Statistics New Zealand yesterday.

 At  the same time,  the  proportion of households renting rather
 than  owning their  own homes  had been  increasing;  the number
 renting   rose  from  26%  10  years  ago  to  27%  last  year.

 Of  those living  in their own  homes,  fewer had  a mortgage in
 1986, SNZ said.

 An  increasing proportion  of the smaller  household budget went
 on   food,  power,  telephone   rental,  health,  and  education
 services  during the period,  "Consumer Expenditure 1995" shows.

 However,  spending  on  food  dropped  3%  after  adjusting  for
 inflation,   in part due  to a fall  in the size  of the average
 household   from  2.9   to  2.7   people  over   the  10  years.

 Spending  on clothing  and transport  declined over  the decade.

 Outlay  on  clothing represented  4.5%  of household  budgets in
 1995,   compared  with 5.5%  in  1986,  and  the  proportion for
 transport fell to 17%, from 19%.

 The  reduced cost of imported clothing and cheaper imported used
 cars was likely to have contributed to these changes,  SNZ said.
 The  proportion  of  household  spending  on  services  such  as
 finance,   health and  education showed  the greatest increases.

 Spending on health rose to 2.25%,  from 1.25% 10 years ago.  For
 education,   the jump was  from 0.5% in 1986  to 1.5% last year.
 University  fees  accounted for  0.42%  of houshold  spending in
 1995.

 (From the Christchurch "Press", 19 October 1996.)


Bill
 
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[PEN-L:6659] Re: NZ Elections - Early News

1996-10-13 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Bill is largely right, but it is not quite that simple. The result 
(before counting special votes) is

On the Right

Association of Consumers and Taxpayers (ACT - the rump of the New
Rightists thrown out of the 1984-1990 New Right Labour govt)  8
National (ruling conservative party) 44
United (a National stooge party with no known policies)   1
 --
   53
In the middle

New Zealand First (initially a breakaway from National, but has 
moved somewhat to the left with strong Maori support and a 
populist policy against immigration, big business and foreign 
investment)17

On the Left

Labour (has moved its social policies leftwards since the 1980's
but still with a monetarist-based economic policy)   37
Alliance (alliance of left-breakaway from 1980's Labour with
various minor centre-left parties including the Greens)  13
 --
   50
-
Total seats in parliament 120

Clearly a minority or coalition government is necessary, and everyone 
here is waiting for NZ First to show its hand. So far it has said it 
is willing to look at a coalition with anyone. If it goes with 
National it's policy is not to repeal the Employment Contracts Act - 
just make minor changes to it. It seems unlikely that it will go with 
National as many of its supporters (particularly the strong Maori 
vote it got) would feel betrayed. But its leader, founder, and 
its chief raison d'etre, Winston Peters, being an ex-National cabinet 
minister, is somewhat (and deliberately) unpredictable.

National has not conceded defeat and is hoping for either a coalition 
with NZ First or to encourage defections from NZ First or Labour,
or to be able to form a minority government.

We're in for an interesting few weeks - or months. However, the 
outcome whichever way it goes is unlikely to have any radical changes 
to economic policies because Labour's and National's have no radical 
differences. Their differences are their spending priorities.

It is a significant rejection of National's anti-welfare, anti-
worker, privatisation policies but not necessarily of the underlying 
economic policies (unfortunately!).

Bill Rosenberg

 To all those who thought that the Presidential election was the only show in
 town this year, i can tell you that a major swing in right-left sentiment has
 occured in NZ today.
 
 The latest news is that a firm trend is now apparent and the privatising,
 welfare-raping, public-sector destroying, employment-contracts act criminals -
 The National Party which has ruled over the last 7 or so years will lose power.
 
 The Labour Party (much changed since the Rogernomics days) will form a
 coalition with the Alliance (a combination of rather left group - which was
 formed from people who left the Labour Party when they were last in power
 acting like conservatives; maori groups, women's groups and green groups).
 
 The alliance has vowed to scrap the Employment Contracts Act, buy back some of
 the privatised enterprises, restore free health and open up education again.
 
 NZ First (a centre party made up largely of the better nationals who couldn't
 hack the destruction that the Nationals were guilty of) will also be in the
 Coalition.
 
 The leader of the Labour Party, Helen Clark will be the first woman PM.
 
 NZ can look forward to a better future now especially the poor. The rich who
 have eaten greedily at the expense of the poor over the National period will
 now face the judgement day.if Alliance can keep Labour to their promises.
 
 Brings a smile to my face.
 
 even though it is a small countrythis is a much more significant event that
 whether clinton or dole wins.
 
 kind regards
 bill
 
 
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[PEN-L:3790] Re: Training's not the answer

1996-04-16 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

There was a very interesting article in the New York Review of Books,
29 Feb, p47-52, "The New, Ruthless Economy", by Simon Head. It gave
considerable detail on how earnings of non-supervisory workers in the
U.S. have fallen while productivity has risen, relating that to "lean
production", "reengineering" and TQM/Denning type techniques. The 
main theme was that higher productivity has not been rewarded 
with higher wages, but Head also concludes that

 "Retraining programs are certainly necessary to help discharged
 workers aquire new skills, often skills involving some form of
 computer processing. But the requirements of the new
 mass-production economy make themselves felt most strongly among
 the younger people entering the labor market. The economy of
 lean production has no need for a large and growing supply of
 younger workers who have had the kind of German-style training
 for technically advnaced production work that so attracts
 Clinton and Reich"

Bill


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[PEN-L:3595] Re: State of the New Zealand economy

1996-04-03 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Hugh Radice wrote:

 I asked Mayes about the effect on the distribution of income and 
 wealth;  he did not know, or would not say.

Here are some better figures on income distribution in New Zealand 
- this comes largely from Jane Kelsey's book, p.256ff.

Real disposable incomes, full-time wage and salary
earners 1984-90 (i.e. before the Employment Contracts Act
was introduced):

  1st quintile  3rd quintile  5th quintile
June 1984  973  974   1052
June 1990  937  952   1081
% change -3.69-2.26  +2.76

(March 1981=1000)

This of course doesn't include some of the worst hit:
part-timers, beneficiaries, nor those at the other end on
unearned income.

It has got worse than this since 1990. For example "the
Infometrics agency in September 1993 reported the top 20
percent of households currently received 45% of all gross
income, up from 35% in the late 1970s. It predicted that
their share would increase to 50% by 1997/98. This left
3% of the total income for the poorest 20% of households
in 1993. The real spending power of those in employment
between 1987 and 1992 rose by 7% for the wealthiest 20%
and fell by 2.9% for the poorest quintile." Compensation
of employees as a percentage of GDP, adjusted for changes
in the working age population, fell from 50% in 1986 to
47% in 1993.

The Department of Social Welfare reported to the re-
elected National government in 1993 that the gap between
the top household incomes and the bottom was widening
with the lowest 40% of household groups receiving only
16% of total household income and 76% of all benefit
income. This compared with 19% and 47% in 1988. In real
dollar terms the middle 50% of household incomes slipped
from a $23,106-$62,335 range in the early 1980s to
$17,777-$52,085 in the 1990s.

Economist Brian Easton, one of the best informed on such
matters, said in 1994 that "the number of people below
whatever poverty line you choose increased about 40% from
1990 to 1992". He laid much of the blame for growing
inequality at tax and benefit cuts. Tax cuts benefited
the rich in 1988 and benefit cuts hitting the poor in
1990.

Commenting on the widening disparities when pointed out
by the "Economist", the Minister of Finance, Bill Birch:
income disparities "are widening and they will widen
more. That doesn't worry me."

There's lots more, but that'll do for now.

Bill


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[PEN-L:3612] Information please

1996-04-03 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

The NZ Business Round Table which consist of the top Executives and 
Directors from most of NZ big business and is a major lobbiest for 
deregulation, privatisation etc, currently has a Dr David G. Green 
touring the country. They commissioned him to write a report on 
social welfare etc. It conclusions are (wait for it) that it 
(along with education etc) should be privatised: "the civil society" 
he calls it, without any sense of irony.

Does anyone know anything about Dr Green? They have not told us much, 
but we do know:

1976-1981: Labour councillor in Newcastel upon Tyne
1981-1983: Research fellow at ANU
1983-1986: No information
1986- : Director of Health and Welfare Unit at the Institute of 
Economic Affairs in London.

Anyone fill in any gaps or know what his training is?

Thanks

Bill

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[PEN-L:3589] Re: State of the New Zealand economy

1996-04-02 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

On Tue, 02 Apr 1996,Ellen Dannin wrote:

 When asked to account for the declines under deregulation, its proponents 
 gave the "dog-tag" explanation.   That is, they would say that their 
 policies would finally succeed once the next bit of deregulation was 
 done.  With success still eluding them, the last bit to be done is 
 deregulating the dog tags. 

Yes, and that is continuing. With the current failure of monetary 
policies to keep inflation under control without severely penalising 
exporters (it uses the exchange rate as a major weapon) the exporters 
are now calling for further action: further deregulation of local 
bodies and their services, privatising workers' Accident 
Compensation, tariff cuts, cuts in government charges (which given 
their previous enthusiasm for "user pays" means either further 
attacks on public service employees or privatisation) etc

Bill

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[PEN-L:3590] Re: State of the New Zealand economy

1996-04-02 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

Hugh Radice wrote:

 I was recently at a workshop in Budapest on foreign direct investment 
 in the Visegrad countries (btw, that's Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, 
 Czech Rep], and to my surprise one of the papers was on "The role of 
 FDI in structural change: the lessons from New Zealand's 
 experience".  The paper was given by David Mayes, a Brit who is now 
 at the Reserve Bank of NZ (he was previously at the National 
 Institute of Econ and Social Research in London, which co-sponsored 
 the workshop).  The paper was 100% supportive of the change to 
 neo-liberalism in NZ.

No great surprise - the only surprise would be that the RBNZ was 
doing this for nothing. Former Ministers in the Labour and National 
Governments - Roger Douglas, Richard Prebble, Ruth Richardson and 
others - have made their fortunes since defeat (or resignation) by 
acting as consultants and travelling guru on such matters: a sort of 
"do it yourself privatisation" road show.

 
 On FDI, the stats in the paper show net FDI - inward minus outward - 
 running at NZ$2m in 1992, 4m in 1993 and 3.5m in 1994.  However, even 
 more striking has been the inflow of portfolio and loan capital, 
 linked to privatization.  Offshore ownership of NZ stocks has risen 
 from 19% at 31/12/89 to 56% at 31/8/95.  Total foreign debt, 
 according to Mayes, "still amounts to 70-80% of GDP", the difference 
 being that this is now mostly private (including 40% foreign holding 
 of domestic debt in the form of NZ$-denominated government stock].  

I presume thes are $b, not $m. Offshore ownership of NZ stocks are
now (1996) at 58%. All these figures relate to publicly listed
shares on the Stock Exchange. However a feature of these years is
the loss of companies from the Share Market - they are being
privatised in another sense. I looked at the 1994 top 200 non-
financial companies (ranked by turnover), which includes listed, non-
listed, and state-owned enterprises, and probably accounts for the 
great majority of New Zealand's non-financial, non-agricultural 
commerce.  Of the 200, 45% are o/s owned, accounting for 52% of the 
turnover, 66% of profits, 57% of tax paid, 61% of total assets, 55% 
of shareholders funds, and 62% of the employees. ("O/s owned" is 
defined by the legislative cut-off of at least 25% overseas 
ownership.)

15 of the top 20 financial institutions are o/s owned, including all 
but one of the main banks (community trust-owned Trustbank) which is 
currently subject to a takeover bid, rumoured to be by Lloyds.

In all, state-owned enterprises, cooperatives and the like are 
heavily represented in the remaining major NZ-owned companies: 
privatisation (in either sense) almost always means overseas 
ownership.

The figures for overseas debt sound right. It is grown several times
since 1984, and has been significantly privatised. To the 
slight extent that it is reducing in absolute terms it is largely due 
to our appreciating exchange rate. Relative to GDP it is falling.

 
 Anyhow, in this capitalist paradise,according to Mayes, " [FDI] 
 contributes to long term economic growth, because it increases 
 efficiency by encouraging local firms to become competitive, because 
 it facilitates exports through the overseas linkages the investor 
 possesses, because it brings an inflow of knowledge, skills and 
 technology and lastly because it generates employment both in itself 
 and through the forward and backward linkages through the economy".  
 Elsewhere he claims that unemployment has fallen to 6%.

This is standard stuff coming from the Reserve Bank, government
Ministers, Chambers of Commerce, private bank spokespeople etc,... I
recently wrote a rejoinder to Reserve Bank Governor, Donald Brash who
had made speeches on the same lines. Legislation was passed last year
making foreign investment even easier (as if that were possible).
Other than for land sales, the only criteria are that the investor
be of good character, be putting money into the investment, and have
"business acumen", whatever that means. This caused an uproar and the
only real debate New Zealand has had on foreign investment for many
years. To the government's surprise there was considerable
opposition, and there has been a propaganda offensive since then to 
reeducate us.

The key thing to note about their arguments are that they are almost
exclusively "micro". All the "good" things Mayes lists are matters
for case by case examination: an argument (at best) for sensible
foreign investment rules. What it deliberately ignores is the macro
effects, the most important of which is that our dependence on
foreign investment (which is always conditional on political
conditions) means these economic policies cannot be changed without
capital flight causing a crisis. On top of that are increasing
balance of payments problems etc.

The unemployment figure is correct - though note that it is still
higher than what it was when this whole experiment started in 1984.

 
 I asked 

[PEN-L:3453] State of the New Zealand economy

1996-03-25 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

The following brief item gives some indication of where the New
Zealand economy is going at present. The single-minded obsession
with inflation (through the Reserve Bank) has led to permanently
high, and currently rising, interest rates and a rising exchange
rate. This both encourages and is worsened by enormous inflows of
foreign investment, including takeovers, government securities and
speculative flows, which are now the dominant influence on the value
of the currency. Domestic demand is weak as a result of falling real
incomes for most of the population over several years, and tax cuts
due in July (paid for in large part by welfare and government service
cuts of the last five years) are forecast to offer only minimal
increases in real incomes after the rises in interest rates and
inflation that are likely to result. Unemployment, though having
fallen considerably from its peak of two or three years ago, is still
above the level at the beginning of the "Rogernomics" neo- liberal
experiment in 1984 and seems likely to begin to rise again or at best
stagnate. While politicians and transnational businessmen praise
outward signs of health such as a strong exchange rate, government
surpluses, and rave reviews from the credit rating agencies, the
hollowness seen in this item is leading farmers and manufacturers to
call for further cuts in wages, government spending, social welfare,
accident compensation, and what little tariffs remain.

From the Christchurch "Press", 25 March 1996, p.6:

"Growth in manufactured-goods exports halts", by Jeremy Kirk, in
Wellington.

Growth in the sale of New Zealand manufactured goods has stopped
after five years of steady increases and no sign of a new growth
phase is evident, the Manufacturers' Federation says.

Federation president Colin Martin said yesterday a Trust Bank-BERL
analysis of the December quarter showed, for the first time in five
years, no over-all growth in manufactured goods sales. While domestic
sales were slightly ahead of the previous period, export returns
dropped to 2.3% below the level of a year before as companies
struggled with the high value of the New Zealand dollar, the slowing
of the major export market, Australia, and manufactured-commodity
price falls.

Export-led growth had ended but it would be a mistake to think the
sector was about to contract, he said.

"The signs are that domestic demand should improve as the year
progresses, but export growth is going to be tough indeed." While
manufacturing profits were under pressure they were unlikely to
collapse because of relatively high equity levels that were
minimising interest-rate costs and strong recent investment in staff
training and plant.

Many Manufacturers were caught out by the rapid rise of the kiwi
dollar, but were trying to improve productivity to offset this, he
said.

"The imminent tax cuts must contribute to growth in domestic demand
in the second half of the year."


Bill Rosenberg


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[PEN-L:2284] Re: Official: NZ is the model

1996-01-07 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

People interested in a thorough (critical!) description and analysis
of what has happened in New Zealand over the last decade may like to
read the recently published:

 The New Zealand Experiment: A World Model for Structural Adjustment?
 Jane Kelsey
 Auckland University Press with Bridget Williams Books
 1995

It was also published in 1995 as "Economic Fundamentalism: The New
Zealand Experiment - A World Model for Structural Adjustment?" in
the International Labour Series by Pluto Press, London and East
Haven, Connecticut.

Bill

 Date sent:  Sat, 06 Jan 1996 16:40:57 -0800
 From:   Robert Peter Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[PEN-L:2281] Official: NZ is the model
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Heard on the radio, Republican congressman saying that
 the battle over reducing the public sector is now worldwide.
 New Zealand has done it, quoth he, and other countries are
 doing it, and if the US doesn't do it, we'll be left behind
 
 Yeah, left behind in the race to the bottom.
 
 Uugh!!
 
 Peter
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[PEN-L:356] re: Brian Easton's essay on responsibility

1995-09-06 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

For those interested in Easton's essay... (500 lines)

Bill Rosenberg.


THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY OF AN ECONOMIST
Brian Easton,
Economic And Social Trust On New Zealand,
18 Talavera Terrace, Kelburn, Wellington, New Zealand.
Phone NZ (4) 472 8950; Fax NZ (4) 4725305;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Address to "Economics, Unemployment, and Social Justice",
a lecture series sponsored by the Tertiary Christian
Studies Program of the Combined Chaplaincies, V.U.W. 9
April 1991. Published in "Towards a Just Economy", edited
by Raymond Pelly, published by the Combined Chaplaincies,
Victoria University of Wellington, 1991, ISBN 0-473-01358-
4.
Just over a year ago, on my birthday, I visited Majdanek,
near the Polish city of Lublin, 160 kilometres south east
of Warsaw and 80 kilometres from the Soviet border.
Majdanek was a concentration camp. Its dead - from
starvation, infection, and execution - included 150,000
Poles, 125,000 Jews, 70,000 Russians, plus those of other
nationalities, a total of 360,000 souls - the population
of today's Christchurch or greater Wellington. The main
memorial at the camp is a giant urn containing 7.5 tonnes
of human ashes. The inscription reads "Los Nasz Dla Was
Przesthorga" - our fate is a warning to you.
The previous birthday, in 1989, I had been up on the
Perry Saddle, and while that night the rain had beaten
through the windows of the tramping hut - a hut more
substantial than those at Majdanek - one never felt the
weather on the Heaphy Track was evil. Nature is
extraordinarily powerful and can be extremely
destructive, but to the modern mind it is not malevolent.
That is something reserved, apparently, for humankind.
I will not detail the obscenity of Majdanek; that must be
an experience reserved for each of us when we visit a
concentration camp. But I want to share with you the path
that I was led down, as I mused about personal
responsibility, particularly my own.
It is very easy to observe the terrible things at
concentration camps like Majdanek, to condemn those
directly involved in the atrocities, and to stop there.
It is equally unsatisfactory to generalise vaguely that
it shows all mankind is capable of committing atrocities,
and we are all guilty. My concern was where actually does
the responsibility stop?
Let me begin by saying that I am not concerned to blame
the German nation as a whole, particularly those who were
born or came to the age of responsibility after 1945. I
do not believe that sin is inherited, and in that Germans
stand with me and as vehemently condemn such behaviour as
an abomination, they are no more guilty than I.
The line of thought began because the town of Lublin was
so close that on an infamous day in November 1943, when
18,000 Jews were rounded up, herded into pits and machine
gunned, loud music was played so the locals could not
hear the execution. But over the years the citizens must
have known, broadly, what was going on. How compliant
were they? And in that they were compliant were they as
guilty as the camp guards? I cannot answer such questions
because I do not know the specifics. But I began to
wonder who else were involved. It is easy enough to
condemn the guards, but what about - say - the
administrators back in Berlin? They presumably did not
know much about the details with what happened, but did
they understand the import of their involvement, did they
try to find out?
Of course ones' response to Majdanek was not solely an
intellectual one. I wanted a prayer or a karakia. Lines
of poetry ran around inside me not quite saying it. I was
reading Frank McKay's biography of James K. Baxter, and I
came across Baxter's response to his visit of Hiroshima,
an even greater oven.
 Having seen an ocean of fire and then
 An ocean of ashes, her mother's head
 On the ground in the pumpkin field, Eioka lies
 Under a stone in Akai. Not yet ten
 She liked bean jam. You guardians of the dead,
 Comfort this child, so young in your mysteries.
(Thank you James, for saying it for me but better,
again.)
And so my thoughts turned to an even greater oven of
extermination, the bombing of Hiroshima. You will recall
it was done by `our' side, on people who were not of
`our' ethnicity. Again I do not feel personally
responsible for the dropping of the atomic bomb, but I
have pondered on where that responsibility stopped. For
instance did it include the refuellers of the B29s which
dropped the bombs? Did it include those in the airbase
cafeteria who fed the refuellers?
One helpful answer, albeit from a much less significant
instance, was told to me by a friend whose brother had
been in a partnership with a lawyer who embezzled his
clients. When the Law Society investigated the brother,
it being necessary to do this because lawyers can be
liable for the debts of their professional partners, it
was shown that the brother had conscientiously and
regularly attempted to check on the partnership's
financial integrity.  Being deceived himself the brother
was found not liable for 

[PEN-L:4585] Information please: AXA

1995-04-04 Thread Rosenberg, Bill

One of the recent trends in New Zealand (and Australia) appears to 
be the beginning of the "privatisation" of the large mutual life 
insurance companies which have for many years dominated that industry 
here. The first is the Australian-based National Mutual Life 
Association which is the second biggest life insurance company in 
Australasia (Australia + New Zealand). In February it announced it has 
sold a 51% controlling interest to the French insurance group AXA 
for $A1.1 billion. The remainder will go to the 1.3 million policy 
holders as conventional shares. NMLA has assets of $A26b.

Has anyone any information on AXA they can give me? The publicity 
material says that AXA has assets of $A330b covering 16 counties in 
Europe, North America and Asia. It claims to be the third largest 
insurer in Europe. It has a 60% interest in The Equitable Life 
Assurance Society, the sixth largest life insurer in the US. It says 
its main interest in NMLA is its Asian business. NMLA will become 
AXA's Asia- Pacific branch and hand NMLA its existing Asian business.

Bill