Ken, "Libertarian" is now linked to the right-wing in much the same way "radical" is used to describe right-wingers at the Cato Institute. Seth Sandronsky >Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:19:02 -0600 >From: Ken Hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [PEN-L:2259] Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Junk Science > >As I recall, anarchists have always referred to themselves as "libertarians". >Anarchists of all stripes have traditionally been leftist opponents of capitalism >and Chomsky is himself a type of anarchist libertarian. Only in the last few >decades has the term "libertarian" been associated with right wing pro-market >views such as those of the anarchist economist Rothbard or the non-anarchist >Nozick. The libertarian tradition was overwhelmingly leftist in orientation. >Unfortunately, the term is now associated with right-wing views. > Cheers, Ken Hanly > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/17/99 11:03:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> << Subj: [PEN-L:2233] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Junk Science >> Date: 1/17/99 11:03:04 PM Pacific Standard Time >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood) >> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >For myself, noting and agreeing with the assertion of the general function >> of >> >institutions like MIT in capitalist society and as instruments of expanded >> >reproduction of that system, a few like Noam Chomsky do slip through and >> >manage to survive. >> >> It was explained to me once that at MIT, Chomsky is thought of as the >> Einstein of linguistics, a scientific giant. His politics are marginal to >> that reputation - just a personality quirk I guess. >> >> Doug >> >> >> Yeah Doug, it is amazing what is considered central and what is marginalized. >> I for one, consider some of Chomsky's politics to be an applied extension of >> some of his work in linguistics or at least not contradictory with some of his >> theses in linguistics. Certainly some of his work in linguistics guided some >> of his work on the political economy of the media under capitalism--on >> symbology, on class-interests and paradigms embodied in the rhetoric, syntax >> and loaded language of the media, etc. Also some of Chomsky's deconstructing >> the deconstructionists and some of his stuff on pomo I have seen seemed to be >> guided by some of his work in linguistics. >> >> Although I disagree with Chomsky on the term "left libertarian" which I >> believe is an oxymoron, no doubt that he has added richly and significantly to >> the study and documentation of the ugly and varied dynamics, instruments and >> consequences of imperialism and in his case, there is at least one example >> where tenure might protect competence instead of incompetence. >> >> Jim >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Subject: [PEN-L:2233] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Junk Science >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:50:22 -0500 >> From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >For myself, noting and agreeing with the assertion of the general function >> of >> >institutions like MIT in capitalist society and as instruments of expanded >> >reproduction of that system, a few like Noam Chomsky do slip through and >> >manage to survive. >> >> It was explained to me once that at MIT, Chomsky is thought of as the >> Einstein of linguistics, a scientific giant. His politics are marginal to >> that reputation - just a personality quirk I guess. >> >> Doug > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com