Well yes, but not exactly.  Example: the Lander banks in Germany.  These
are publicly owned at the state level and make loans to local small
businesses.  They play an important role in the social market model--and
the EU (or some elements therein) wants to abolish them.

By the way, this is a very important topic.

Peter Dorman

Max Sawicky wrote:
> 
> >
> > Here's an idea - social democracy is more compatible with "monopolized"
> > ownership structures than most social democrats would like to
> > admit, and is
> > undermined by U.S.-style financial and corporate governance arrangements.
> > It's probably very difficult for U.S. social dems to admit to this, given
> > this country's love of small business and populist, anti-centralizing
> > political traditions.
> 
> Financial and corporate governance arrangements can be
> quite different in this context.
> 
> In the latter case, monopoly mitigates the imperative of
> profit maximization per se.  In this realm, I think you
> are right that social democracy has an interest in seeking
> collaborationist arrangements with corporations, which I
> would say can be either good or bad for workers.
> 
> Liberalizing financial arrangements are a whole different
> matter and would seem to be the real challenge to social
> democracy.  We see that under neo-liberalism, social
> democracy either caves in and transforms to Clintonism
> (e.g., U.S., perhaps Australia/New Zealand, UK), or
> is forced into a more antagonistic posture.
> 
> The indifference to localism, populism, and anti-
> centralism is generic not only to social-democracy,
> but to much of the left as well.  My impression is
> that these traditions have much less currency in
> Europe so there is nothing to neglect.
> 
> mbs



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