Yea, in the 20's the KKK used to have big parades down the avenues of D.C., _Birth of a Nation_ was the big hit movie, and there was open terrorist rule of Black people on behalf of the financial oligarchy, an American Fascism. Charles Brown >>> "Henry C.K. Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/03/99 10:45AM >>> Another open secret: WWI veterans protesting about benefits in front of the White House in the early 30's erected a camp city which was cleared by force with Federal troops commanded by Einsenhower and MacAthur, an American Tiananmen. Henry C.K. Liu Charles Brown wrote: > Isn't Popper-Soros' concept of an "Open Society" ironic when the bourgeoisie rely so >much on Secrecy ? What do Popper and Soros say about Open Secrets ? > > Charles Brown > > >>> "Henry C.K. Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/03/99 10:11AM >>> > Other open secrets: > > FDR knew about Japanese "sneak" attack on Pearl Harbor. > America did not help Jews fleeing from Nazi Germany > Truman used the two nuclear bombs on Japan mostly to warn the Soviets. > > Cardinal Spellman was very inflential in Kennedy's early decision to back a Catholic >Vietnam regime in its persecution of local Buddhists whose monks kept burning >themselves publicly in protest. > Kennedy's White House sex with a known Soviet agent. > > Watergate was connected to CIA opposition to Nixon's bypassing it in his opening to >China. > > Rubin turned down a US$100 billlion Asian recuse package offered by Japan in >October, 1997 because of his insistence of American control on all rescue moves. > > I am sure others on the list can offer more. > > Henry C.K. Liu > > Charles Brown wrote: > > > >>> Tom Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/02/99 09:05PM >>> > > P.S. Yoshie notes: > > > > Charles Brown wrote: > > >>But if we know all about them, how are they secret ? > > > > >It's called an open secret. If nobody knew about them, there would be no > > >point in joining them. > > > > Taussig did a great piece on the role of open secrets in society -- that > > is, the effects of all acting as if we don't know something we do, knowing > > that others know and know we know. Like congressmen fucking around, say. > > I'll try to find the citation. > > ________ > > > > Chas: > > I guess the Presidential bubble has been burst on that acting like we don't know >when we do. That is the rightwing's problem with the Clinton-Lewinsky affair now its >just open, not an open secret. The bourgeoisie have always been dependent upon >secrecy , PRIVACY. The revelation of secrets threatens "privacy" and thus private >property. I realize that's structuralism. > > > > Then there's Oliver North's "plausible deniability". > > > > Tom, is that Taussig , Mick ? I just realized it probably is as you are in Bolivia >- _The Devil and Commodity Fetishism_ > > > > Your whole feedback on the secret societies and the rise and of the bourgeoisie >was edifying, esp. the reference of book by Jacobs. > > > > Charles Brown > > > > Tom Kruse > > Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia > > Tel/Fax: (591-4) 248242, 500849 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]