Barkley writes: >> It is true that Owen and Fourier proposed 
small utopias within larger market capitalist settings, and this 
may have warranted the dismissive "utopian" label attached 
by Marx and Engels.<<

A growing literature suggests that Marx and Engels were _not_ 
very dismissive toward the utopians (cf. the Vincent Geoghegan 
and Ruth Levitas books that I cite in the article on utopias that 
I mistakenly posted to pen-l last month; see also the last volume 
of Hal Draper's KARL MARX'S THEORY OF REVOLUTION; Krishan Kumar'S 
book disagrees). In desperate brevity, Marx thought that 
utopianism was nice in a lot of ways, including giving workers 
ideas for about how they could organize a post-capitalist 
society. But he differed strongly in terms of tactics and 
strategy: propagandizing about how things could be better or 
setting up utopian colonies was hardly enough. 

Early on, Engels was much more pro-utopian than Marx; according 
to Draper, Marx convinced Engels to less effusive in his praise 
of the utopians in ANTI-DUHRING. But with the development of the 
German Social Democratic Party and the rise of the Marxist 
intellectuals' scientific (i.e. positivistic) pretensions, the 
antagonism toward the utopians grew. This antagonism became  
violent in the Third International, because any utopianism was 
implicitly or explicitly a criticism of the USSR. 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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and let people talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.





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