Re: [PEN-L:8772] re: progressiveness of taxes

1997-02-26 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 10:03 AM 2/26/97 -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
>I wrote:>in the US, if I am not mistaken, the big increases in 
>the progressiveness of the tax system coincide with wars. <


etc.

I fully agree.  There are only two conditions that pose a REAL threat to the
oligarchy: a lots of unhappy people with guns (e.g. during the war time) and
the inability of the state to use force to repress them (e.g. when that
force is needed elsewhere, in the frontline).  

This was the story behind the Russian Revolution -- the only successful
revolution against an essentially capitalist regime, for all other leftist
revolutions from China to Cuba were against agrarian regimes, and as such,
they partially coincided with the interests of the bourgeoisie (cf.
Barrington Moore, _The Social Origins of Dictatorship and Democracy_).
Although Moore argues that the Russian Revolution grew from the feudal
background of the country set on a rapid modernization course, I think that
his argument misses two points: first, that the major revolutionary push
came from the urban industrial centers, not form the coutry side (like in
China); second, the peasant masses were alredy mobilized and armed for the
war; when the command structure of the Russian Army started to crumble under
the German blows, that left a lot of unhappy people with guns in Russia that
could not be effectively controlled by the oligarchy.

So the bottom line is the follwoing equation:
many unhappy people with guns + inability of the state to control them = a
successful revolution against a capitalist regime.

I think capitalists all over the world took a note of it.  Each time they
rely on mass mobilization, they try to make the unhappy people more happy.
This does not have to be during an armed conflict (when the command
structures of the army work), but after one.  Studies show that the level of
violence usually increases after the hostilities are over -- a lot of people
with guns,  trained how to fight, get demobilized and they can become
unhappy again if they find out that nor much changed after the war, except
that the rich are even richer.  So that prompts the state oligarchy to make
unhappy people a bit more happy by intruducing social programs.

That, I belive, is more-or-less a gist of the argument proposed by Theda
Skocpol in _Protecting soldiers and mothers: the political origins of social
policy in the United States_.  Interestingly, the Nazis and the Italian
Fascists implemented far reaching social programs when they were preparing
for war.

With the Left and Liberals not only vowing not to use violence themselves,
but also to support the oligarchy to disarm all those who are ready to use
force -- no wonder that the oligarchy feels free to dismantle whatever is
left or our social safety net system.  And they are laughing all the way to
the bank.

wojtek sokolowski 
institute for policy studies
johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
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[PEN-L:8772] re: progressiveness of taxes

1997-02-26 Thread JDevine

I wrote:>in the US, if I am not mistaken, the big increases in 
the progressiveness of the tax system coincide with wars. <

Nathan Newman writes >>I don't think this is accurate. THe really 
progressive nature of our tax system was created during the 
depression.<<

I don't have a table or graph indicating when major increases 
and decreases in the progressiveness of the tax system over the 
years, but that point sounds right to me. It also doesn't 
contradict the more complete & sophisticated version of my 
hypothesis that is not captured by the snippet above: during 
the Depression, there was a dramatic increase in social unrest 
(remember the way that the army was used to disperse the 
veterans' bonus march, etc.) Groups such as the CPUSA actually 
became mass organizations, while workers were sitting down in 
factories in Detroit! (The list could go on.) This kind of 
thing, together with the demoralization of the capitalists 
after the 1929 crash, encouraged our rulers to make concessions 
such as an increase in the progressiveness of the tax system 
even without a war. 

>>Wars may allow some increases, but it is as likely to be general 
tax increases for shared sacrifice.<<

Except for the idea of a general tax increase, that's basically what 
I said. We need to have some measure of the overall progressiveness 
of the tax system in order to see whether taxes became more 
progressive or not during World War II.

But I try to get beyond the official rhetoric of "shared sacrifice" 
(or the use of such rhetoric by those outside the establishment to 
pressure the elite). Trying to look at things more objectively, I 
think it's better to see tax increases on the rich as a way of 
keeping the troops happy (and also the people at home who suffer 
from shortages, rationing, illegal-market activities, and war 
profiteering). Rather than employing rhetoric, it's best to look at 
the actual class and other struggles. 

>>Vietnam had tax increases but they wer not particularly 
progressive.<<

According to Joseph Pechman's FEDERAL TAX POLICY, table A-1 (1977: 
298), while the tax rate on the lowest tax bracket (below $500) 
fell a little from 1964 to 1965 and then stayed constant, the tax 
rate on the upper tax bracket (above $100,000) rose from 1965-67 to 
1968 to 1969, going from 70% to 77% (before falling during the 
Nixon years). That is, LBJ's war-era tax surcharge hit the high 
brackets more than the low brackets. 

Of course, this story does NOT tell us anything about the over-all 
progressiveness of the tax system or about that of the entire 
package of income and spending.

It's the latter package that should be central. During the Vietnam 
war, LBJ was afraid to cut civilian programs such as the "war on 
poverty" because of the increasing popular discontent with the war 
and the social situation (cf. the wave of "riots" in 1968) while he 
didn't want to cut war expenditures for obvious reasons. This 
pushed him to raise taxes via a tax surcharge which hit the rich 
most. Because he didn't want to offend them, his main constituency, 
he also engaged in increased deficit spending, which in this 
context encouraged inflation to get worse.  It's true that the 
inflation tax hurts the poor and those on fixed incomes, but it 
also hits lenders, who are typically rich. So maybe those two can 
be seen as washing out. (The "tax" on soldiers (being drafted to 
risk their lives) is hard to quantify.) If this story is right, it 
seems that the overall package became more progressive as the 
individual income tax became more progressive.

>>BTW the 1993 tax bill was a moderate but significant increase 
in tax equity with tax increases on the wealthy matched with tax 
cuts for the working poor (EITC). No war in sight.<<

Of course, that was not the kind of spike in progressiveness 
(a "big increase") that I was talking about. It seems a 
long-overdue reaction to the radically increasing 
regressiveness of the tax system in the years before, which 
had spawned major anger, though usually not expressed out of 
"normal" channels. It was also one of the last efforts of the 
Clinton administration to act like traditional Democrats 
before totally succumbing to sleaze. 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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