Re: Dematerialization, decarbonation, post-capitalism and the entropy liberation front
... convert us from tree huggers to tree planters; since a lot of the old trees take decades or centuries to grow (and because the forestry industry favors quick-growing trees), there's a need to hug the existing trees _and_ plant new ones. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine
Re: Dematerialization, decarbonation, post-capitalism and the entropy liberation front
- Original Message - From: "Lisa Ian Murray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:26 AM Subject: [PEN-L:20801] Dematerialization, decarbonation, post-capitalism and the entropy liberation front to make the larger point that energy markets are already planned--just undemocratically. Care to expand? (seriously) Mark D H 'last time I hugged a tree it came' Lawrence-Jones
Dematerialization, decarbonation, post-capitalism and the entropy liberation front
One of the possible ways to make an eco-socialist message palatable to the scientists/engineers currently under capital's thumb$$'s is to show that a significant change in the property rights/class structure would vastly accelerate trends that capital pays them to analyze but not communicate to the wider public. This might entail flirting with neo-luddism [see Nick Dyer-Witheford's latest book] only to make the larger point that energy markets are already planned--just undemocratically. The formation of the entropy liberation front :-) [organized by Doug H.] would convert us from tree huggers to tree planters; especially since we need to plant enough trees to equal the size of India every year just to maintain the current "level" of carbon sinks from now until [?] http://phe.rockefeller.edu/Daedalus/Demat/ "the ocean is the ultimate solution" -- Frank Zappa
