>--- Original Message --- >From: Jon Beasley-Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 4/16/02 12:25:12 AM > >Louis, I'm sorry that by some freak of internet you only received the last >two sentences of the first of two longish texts I sent out yesterday. >Thanks to Michael P, readers of aut-op-sy will also think that my >commentary on what's been going on in Venezuela is brief indeed. > >I'll gladly pass on the full texts of both pieces. > >Take care > >Jon > >Jon Beasley-Murray >Spanish and Portuguese >University of Manchester >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.art.man.ac.uk/spanish/jbm.html >http://www.art.man.ac.uk/lacs/ > >On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Louis Proyect wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:38:49 -0700, Jon Beasley-Murray wrote: >> > >> >The current regime lacks >> >any legitimacy, however much it may have >> >paraded invented rituals for the cameras, and >> >will survive only through repression or apathy. >> >But the multitude is waiting for other >> >alternatives, and other possibilities >> >> The multitude is waiting for other possibilities? This must be a >> reference to Spinoza-ist communism which will be ushered in by broken >> Starbucks windows. I would think the one thing that Argentina and >> Venezuela dramatize is the need for the working-class to organize >> itself politically as a class in order to create a new STATE that >> reflects its own needs. Both Venezuela and Argentina are potentially >> wealthy countries that can provide a level of income and security >> that are much higher than Cuba's, let alone the average 3rd world >> country. >> >> It continues to amaze me that these silly quasi-anarchist formulas >> about the "multitude" have any credibility. With hunger and disease >> rampant in Argentina, the STATE can deliver food and health care that >> is urgently needed. By polemicizing against the need for SOCIALISM >> let alone a left social democratic or populist government in the >> Chavez or Peron mold, the autonomists reveal themselves to be an >> anti-working class current. They are for pie in the sky in the >> future, while people go to sleep hungry today. >> >> >> -- >> Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/15/2002 >> >> Marxism list: http://www.marxmail.org >> >> >> > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- >