Re: Krugman on good news

2003-11-30 Thread Julio Huato
Paul Krugman wrote: "And there are signs of an economic takeoff in at least
parts of India [...] every one of those development success stories was
based on export-led growth."
Then Michael Pollak made the following remark: "India wasn't.  Exports are
10% of its economy, like the US."
India is a big country.  Those parts of India where there are "signs of an
economic takeoff," aren't they export zones?  I'd bet they are.
Julio

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Re: Krugman on good news

2003-11-28 Thread Michael Pollak
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Krugman was quoted saying

> Now we know that the club isn't that exclusive, after all. South Korea and
> several smaller Asian economies have made a full transition to modernity.
> China is still a poor country, but it has made astonishing progress. And
> there are signs of an economic takeoff in at least parts of India. I'm not
> talking about arid economic statistics; what we've seen over the past
> generation is an enormous, unexpected improvement in the human condition.
>
> How was this improvement achieved? Whenever I give talks about my latest
> book, someone asks whether I still believe in free trade. The answer is
> yes - not because I have any fond feelings about multinational
> corporations, but because every one of those development success stories
> was based on export-led growth.

India wasn't.  Exports are 10% of its economy, like the US.

So of the only two examples that really matter for the global proportion
of poor people stats, one is wrong.  Talk about drawing a curve through
one point.

Michael


Re: Krugman on good news

2003-11-28 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Eubulides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Jeebus..]

Quite intriquing that workers keep producing and
producing, yet *we* appear to be in debt to other
ruling classes of the world.  I guess there's nothing
left to do but to take over and run the means of
production for ourselves.  Wake up turkeys or we all
through.

And now for the bad and the ugly,
Mike B)
**
Pause in the Crisis or
Beginning of New Boom?

By Loren Goldner

On Oct. 30 the U.S. Department of Commerce announced
that the U.S. economy had grown at a 7.2% annual rate
in the third quarter of 2003. Since these statistics
are constantly being revised, one wonders what they
really mean (the “productivity miracle” of the second
half of the 1990’s almost disappeared in retrospective
downward revisions after the March 2000 dot.com
crash).

Whatever the case,  is clear that the Bush
administration is pulling all stops in its re-election
strategy for 2004. One does not have to believe in a
“political business cycle” to recognize that the U.S.
government has sufficient tools to pump up the economy
going into an election year. Most notorious in the
history of this strategem was Nixon’s 1971-1972
reflation based on wage-price controls, the “reform”
of the Bretton Woods system (amounting to a 32%
surcharge on foreign imports and massive (for the
period) deficit spending) to assure his 1972
re-election, after which inflation took off,  the
Bretton Woods system collapsed, and the U.S. and the
world plunged into the deepest economic downturn to
date (1973-1975) since the 1930’s. Of course Nixon
–like Bush today--was dealing with long-term trends
that pointed far beyond his election strategy, but the
aim of the “political business cycle” is to have the
shit hit the fan immediately after the election,
allowing maximum political flexibility to “Do
Something” after consolidating political power.

What is indisputable is that there was a three-year
(2000-2003) “bear market” in the U.S. and world stock
markets in which trillions of dollars of paper value
disappeared, and a “mild recession” which,  again,
appears mild based on dubious statistics that are
constantly being manipulated for political ends. The
official unemployment rate of 6% during the 2001-2003
period does not include the 1% of the U.S. population
in prison, nor the people who have entirely dropped
out of the labor market, nor people who are working
part-time (as little as a few hours per week) who
would like to work full-time. With these parts of the
population included, the real rate of unemployment has
been estimated at roughly 11%. In reality, 2.7 million
jobs have disappeared in the U.S. economy since 2000,
and there has been little upturn so far in employment
figures.

It is equally clear that from January 2001 onward,
Greenspan and the Federal Reserve bank were looking at
the possibility of a full-blown deflationary crash,
following the end of the high-tech boom (in which it
was discovered, for example,  that 98% of the
fiber-optic cable laid in the preceding years would
never be used). The Federal funds rate (the rate at
which the Fed lends to banks) came down in lockstep
fashion from 6% to 1% by June 2003. To this must be
added the Bush tax cut for the rich (approximately
$200 billion per year) and the rapid increase in the
Federal deficit (estimated at $375 billion for 2003)
from the balanced budget achieved (with some creative
accounting) in the last years of Clinton (it is
somewhat hilarious to see the Democrats now attacking
the Republicans for large-scale deficit spending).
Finally, the post-2002 decline of the dollar (30%
against the euro, 10% against the yen) is aimed at
making U.S. goods cheaper overseas, which so far has
not begun to curb the $500 billion annual U.S.
balance-of-payments deficit, but which should in short
order result in inflation in the U.S. by increasing
the cost of imported goods. In the meantime, the U.S.
must borrow $1.5 billion per day to cover this
deficit, and is currently taking 40% of world savings.
The minimum estimate of $2 trillion of foreign
indebtedness ($10 trillion held by foreigners offset
by $8 trillion of U.S. assets abroad) means that total
U.S. foreign debt is already 20% of GDP, a level
typical of a Third World country. Already 1% of U.S.
GDP is going to pay off the interest on foreign-held
debt.

The current wave of euphoria that the 2000-2003 bear
market is over is based on these (and other) paper
indicators of an expansion that has not yet altered
any of the fundamental crisis trends of earlier years,
but is rather based on all the expansion of liquidity
mentioned above. For all the late 1990’s hype about
the “New Economy” and the high-tech “revolution”, it
seems that the health of the U.S. economy still
depends on the willingness and ability of Americans to
buy houses and cars on credit, exactly like 40 years
ago. Third-quarter corporate profits  in the U.S.
generally “look good”, 

Krugman on good news

2003-11-27 Thread Eubulides
[Jeebus..]



[New York Times]
November 28, 2003
OP-ED COLUMNIST
The Good News
By PAUL KRUGMAN

I've heard it said that I should try, just once, to write something
upbeat. Honestly, on the domestic front it's hard. Yes, the business cycle
is looking up - but with the budget out of control, pork-stuffed
legislation making its way through Congress and the extractive industries
making environmental policy, we seem to have lost the ability to govern
ourselves. Did I mention civil liberties?

But if I take the global long view, there's still a lot to cheer about.

When I went to graduate school, almost 30 years ago, I initially thought
about specializing in development. After all, there is no more important
topic in economics than how to raise the standard of living of the world's
poor.

But in the mid-1970's, development economics was just too depressing to
pursue. Indeed, it might as well have been called non-development
economics. No third world nation had made the transition to
advanced-country status since 19th-century Japan. Circa 1975 it seemed
that the club of nations with decent living standards was no longer
accepting new members.

Now we know that the club isn't that exclusive, after all. South Korea and
several smaller Asian economies have made a full transition to modernity.
China is still a poor country, but it has made astonishing progress. And
there are signs of an economic takeoff in at least parts of India. I'm not
talking about arid economic statistics; what we've seen over the past
generation is an enormous, unexpected improvement in the human condition.

How was this improvement achieved? Whenever I give talks about my latest
book, someone asks whether I still believe in free trade. The answer is
yes - not because I have any fond feelings about multinational
corporations, but because every one of those development success stories
was based on export-led growth. And that growth is possible only if rising
economies can expand into new markets. Some critics of globalization seem
to be nostalgic for the era before the big growth in third-world exports
of manufactured goods. I'm not, because I remember the way that era really
felt, our despair over the possibility of development.

That said, the critics of globalization do have some valid points.

First and foremost, the promise of export-led growth has failed in too
many places. In particular, Latin America has signally failed to replicate
Asia's success: Latin nations have liberalized, privatized and
deregulated, with results ranging from disappointing (Mexico) to
catastrophic (Argentina). Open world markets, it seems, offer the
possibility of economic development - but not an easy, universal recipe.

Meanwhile, competition from newly industrializing economies does hurt some
workers in advanced countries. I could tell you how sensible government
policies could minimize this cost, but since we don't have those policies
and aren't about to get them, free trade is, in reality, a morally
ambiguous issue. And someone in my situation has to acknowledge being in a
particularly weak moral position, since they aren't yet having newspaper
columns written in Bangalore.

Yet I keep coming back to the big good news of the past 25 years: in a
world with more or less free trade, development is possible. We are not,
it turns out, condemned to live forever on a planet where only a small
minority of the global population has a decent standard of living.

Will this good news continue? Growing tensions over world trade worry me.
The steady trickle of U.S. protectionist moves, against everything from
steel to Chinese bras, hasn't yet become a torrent. But there's a definite
sense that the grown-ups have left the building.

What's particularly striking is the contempt this administration has for
the rules. I was on the staff of the Council of Economic Advisers during
the Reagan administration (those were nonpolitical jobs back then); one
thing I remember was that if the experts said a proposed trade restriction
violated international trade law, that was that. By contrast, just about
every protectionist step taken by the Bush administration has been clearly
in violation. And if the major economic powers stop honoring the rules
that preserve open global markets, the chances of future development in
poor nations will be much reduced.

But none of this cancels the fact that over the past 25 years more people
have seen greater material progress than ever before in history. That's
something to celebrate.