Marx's Daughter & Son-In-Law was, Re: Marx and Malleability

2000-05-17 Thread Carrol Cox



"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:

>  I think that
> it is worth keeping in mind that his own daughter and son-in-
> law were gunned down at le mur des Communards in the Pere
> Lachaise cemetary at the end of that sad episode,

As I recall, they had a hairy time of it, but they lived to commit
suicide together some decades later.

Carrol




Re: Marx's Daughter & Son-In-Law was, Re: Marx and Malleability

2000-05-17 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

Carrol,
 I think that was another daughter and son-in-law.
But, I could be wrong.  One of his daughters is
mentioned on the plaque at the site in question.
Barkley
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>
>
>"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
>
>>  I think that
>> it is worth keeping in mind that his own daughter and son-in-
>> law were gunned down at le mur des Communards in the Pere
>> Lachaise cemetary at the end of that sad episode,
>
>As I recall, they had a hairy time of it, but they lived to commit
>suicide together some decades later.
>
>Carrol
>
>




Re: Marx's Daughter & Son-In-Law was, Re: Marx and Malleability

2000-05-17 Thread Michael Perelman

Tussy committed suicide.  The daughter in Paris, Laura, died early of
natural causes, I believe.

"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:

> Carrol,
>  I think that was another daughter and son-in-law.
> But, I could be wrong.  One of his daughters is
> mentioned on the plaque at the site in question.
> Barkley
> -Original Message-
> From: Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:26 PM
> Subject: [PEN-L:19162] Marx's Daughter & Son-In-Law was, Re: Marx and
> Malleability
>
> >
> >
> >"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
> >
> >>  I think that
> >> it is worth keeping in mind that his own daughter and son-in-
> >> law were gunned down at le mur des Communards in the Pere
> >> Lachaise cemetary at the end of that sad episode,
> >
> >As I recall, they had a hairy time of it, but they lived to commit
> >suicide together some decades later.
> >
> >Carrol
> >
> >

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Re: Marx's Daughter & Son-In-Law was,Re: Marx and Malleability

2000-05-18 Thread Carrol Cox



Michael Perelman wrote:

> Tussy committed suicide.  The daughter in Paris, Laura, died early of
> natural causes, I believe.

Eleanor (Tussy) committed suicide in London in 1898. Laura married
Paul Lafargue. She and her husband both committed suicide sometime
after 1910. I have (long ago) read a letter Lenin wrote (I forget the
recipient) in which he speaks of the shock the suicides caused in
revolutionary circles.

For information on all three sisters and their relations to the Paris
Commune,
see Yvonne Kapp, *Eleanor Marx*, Vol. 1, pages 125 forward.

Eleanor's suicide had its grounds in clinical depression but many events,
including the misdeeds of her companion, Aveling, triggered it. See
Kapp, Vol. 2 for that. Laura's suicide, on the basis of what little I have
read on it, is somewhat "suspect" in that it may reflect the way in
which male dominance can/did affect even revolutionary women -- she
may have committed suicide only because Paul's indirect pressure.
During the time of the Commune Laura was preoccupied with the
illness of one of her children. Paul Lafargue was in Paris part of the
time but was not among those captured and executed.

Carrol