Re: Re: Pearls from Perle and Hammurabi

2003-03-22 Thread k hanly



The Absolute Mind manifests itself through Bush. 
Bush is obviously conscious of this in his claim he is bringing Freedom to 
Iraqthink of how rationality is embodied in the weapons of mass destruction 
of the US and how might is now making the right of pre-emptive war in 
International Law.

Cheers, Ken Hanly

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  soula avramidis 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 1:33 
  AM
  Subject: [PEN-L:35896] Re: Pearls from 
  Perle and Hammurabi
  
   
  
  "History suggests 
  not. The UN arose from the ashes of a war that theLeague of Nations was 
  unable to avert. It was simply not up to confrontingItaly in Abyssinia, 
  much less - had it survived that debacle - to taking onNazi 
  Germany."
  If history is repeating 
  itself, then is this the tragedy or the farce? if it is a farce, it is too 
  tragic to contemplate. 
  How is one to 
  distinguish between tragedies and farces, the problem with this is people may 
  laughin the wrong place or at inopportune moment and offend other 
  people, say at a funeral. So I searched someone who knows Iraq and its culture 
  for a proverb that may throw some wisdom on the matter, and he says, one 
  ancient Babylonian proverb said and this is well documented :"the greatest of 
  calamities or tragedies is that which makes you laugh", meaning that one is so 
  hurt suchthat one is driven to insanity. here of course, farce and 
  tragedy coincide in actuality, making the matter somewhat dialectical. 
  
  speaking of the 
  dialectic, this leads to Hegel on war, or his patronizing stance with the 
  Prussian court, and for that you may look up his philosophy of right, but in 
  short one may quote this: 
  [Conflict with another 
  sovereign state] is the moment wherein the substance of the state--i.e. its 
  absolute power against everything individual and particular, against life, 
  property, and their rights, even against societies and associations--makes the 
  nullity of these finite things an accomplished fact and brings it home to 
  consciousness. (PR:323) 
  "War is the state of 
  affairs which deals in earnest with the vanity of temporal goods and 
  concernsWar has the higher significance that by its agency, as I have 
  remarked elsewhere, "the ethical health of peoples is preserved in their 
  indifference to the stabilization of finite institutions; just as the blowing 
  of the winds preserves the sea from the foulness which would be the result of 
  a prolonged calm, so also corruption in nations would be the product of 
  prolonged, let alone `perpetual,' peace." (PR:324R)
  Then the words of an 
  idealist sycophant (Hegel), devoid of any concrete substance, in which he 
  extols the Prussian drive for war, are taken by one Lee Harris, in 'Our world 
  historical gamble'. to imply that war is necessary for the betterment of the 
  human spirit: 
  "The war with Iraq will 
  constitute one of those momentous turning points of history in which one 
  nation under the guidance of a strong-willed, self-confident leader undertakes 
  to alter the fundamental state of the world. It is, to use the language of 
  Hegel, an event that is world-historical in its significance and scope. And it 
  will be world-historical, no matter what the outcome may be. Such 
  world-historical events, according to Hegel, are inherently sui generis - they 
  break the mold and shatter tradition. "
  Indeed momentous, the war 
  is notwith Iraq it is on Iraq, and 
  it is literally the molestation of the weak by the powerful; one x us pilot 
  described the bombing of the escaping convoys from Kuwait in 1991 as "shooting 
  fish in a barrel", later known as the highway of 
  death.
  This weak and 
  powerful business reminds me of something I read long ago which is to the 
  first political manifesto known to man, Hammurabi's code in which he says: 
  
  "The great gods 
  have called me, I am the salvation-bearing shepherd, whose staff is straight, 
  the good shadow that is spread over my city; on my breast I cherish the 
  inhabitants of the land of Sumer and Akkad; in my shelter I have let them 
  repose in peace; in my deep wisdom have I enclosed them. That the 
  strong might not injure the weak, in order to protect the widows and 
  orphans, I have in Babylon the city where Anu and Bel raise high 
  their head, in E-Sagil, the Temple, whose foundations stand firm as heaven and 
  earth, in order to bespeak justice in the land, to settle all disputes, and 
  heal all injuries, set up these my precious words, written upon my memorial 
  stone, before the image of me, as king of righteousness." 
  
   
  
  The man may have a 
  visionary too:for he says:
  "In future 
  time, through all coming generations, let the king, who may be in the land, 
  observe the words of righteousness which I have written on my 
  monument; l

Re: Pearls from Perle and Hammurabi

2003-03-21 Thread soula avramidis

 
"History suggests not. The UN arose from the ashes of a war that theLeague of Nations was unable to avert. It was simply not up to confrontingItaly in Abyssinia, much less - had it survived that debacle - to taking onNazi Germany."
If history is repeating itself, then is this the tragedy or the farce? if it is a farce, it is too tragic to contemplate. 
How is one to distinguish between tragedies and farces, the problem with this is people may laughin the wrong place or at inopportune moment and offend other people, say at a funeral. So I searched someone who knows Iraq and its culture for a proverb that may throw some wisdom on the matter, and he says, one ancient Babylonian proverb said and this is well documented :"the greatest of calamities or tragedies is that which makes you laugh", meaning that one is so hurt suchthat one is driven to insanity. here of course, farce and tragedy coincide in actuality, making the matter somewhat dialectical. 
speaking of the dialectic, this leads to Hegel on war, or his patronizing stance with the Prussian court, and for that you may look up his philosophy of right, but in short one may quote this: 
[Conflict with another sovereign state] is the moment wherein the substance of the state--i.e. its absolute power against everything individual and particular, against life, property, and their rights, even against societies and associations--makes the nullity of these finite things an accomplished fact and brings it home to consciousness. (PR:323) 
"War is the state of affairs which deals in earnest with the vanity of temporal goods and concernsWar has the higher significance that by its agency, as I have remarked elsewhere, "the ethical health of peoples is preserved in their indifference to the stabilization of finite institutions; just as the blowing of the winds preserves the sea from the foulness which would be the result of a prolonged calm, so also corruption in nations would be the product of prolonged, let alone `perpetual,' peace." (PR:324R)
Then the words of an idealist sycophant (Hegel), devoid of any concrete substance, in which he extols the Prussian drive for war, are taken by one Lee Harris, in 'Our world historical gamble'. to imply that war is necessary for the betterment of the human spirit: 
"The war with Iraq will constitute one of those momentous turning points of history in which one nation under the guidance of a strong-willed, self-confident leader undertakes to alter the fundamental state of the world. It is, to use the language of Hegel, an event that is world-historical in its significance and scope. And it will be world-historical, no matter what the outcome may be. Such world-historical events, according to Hegel, are inherently sui generis - they break the mold and shatter tradition. "
Indeed momentous, the war is notwith Iraq it is on Iraq, and it is literally the molestation of the weak by the powerful; one x us pilot described the bombing of the escaping convoys from Kuwait in 1991 as "shooting fish in a barrel", later known as the highway of death.
This weak and powerful business reminds me of something I read long ago which is to the first political manifesto known to man, Hammurabi's code in which he says: 
"The great gods have called me, I am the salvation-bearing shepherd, whose staff is straight, the good shadow that is spread over my city; on my breast I cherish the inhabitants of the land of Sumer and Akkad; in my shelter I have let them repose in peace; in my deep wisdom have I enclosed them. That the strong might not injure the weak, in order to protect the widows and orphans, I have in Babylon the city where Anu and Bel raise high their head, in E-Sagil, the Temple, whose foundations stand firm as heaven and earth, in order to bespeak justice in the land, to settle all disputes, and heal all injuries, set up these my precious words, written upon my memorial stone, before the image of me, as king of righteousness." 
 
The man may have a visionary too:for he says:
"In future time, through all coming generations, let the king, who may be in the land, observe the words of righteousness which I have written on my monument; let him not alter the law of the land which I have given, the edicts which I have enacted; my monument let him not mar. If such a ruler have wisdom, and be able to keep his land in order, he shall observe the words which I have written in this inscription; the rule, statute, and law of the land which I have given; the decisions which I have made will this inscription show him; let him rule his subjects accordingly, speak justice to them, give right decisions, root out the miscreants and criminals from this land, and grant prosperity to his subjects."
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