RE: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

Ken writes:>Certainly one could expect support for Israel as a strategic
ally but how is Israel loyal when it deliberately ignores US presidential
demands to withdraw. Israeli actions make a planned attack on Iraq much more
difficult--by alienating all of Iraq's neighbours and also threatens
stability in places such as Bahrain which are militarily important for the
US.<

I'm not convinced that the US really wants Sharon to pull the troops out.
Instead, the US wants to _look like_ it want Sharon to do so.

The problem with the Israeli actions that "make [the] planned attack on Iraq
much more difficult" is that it's the nature of international relations (or
of imperialism, for you guys) that events can't be predicted. No-one really
knew that the Intifada would go the way it did, with people deciding not to
give up passively to Israeli domination but to do so explosively. Then, I am
sure that a lot of people in Washington DC are extremely sympathetic to
Sharon's blitzkrieg. (Colin Powell was sent on a slow boat to the Levant
rather than sped into impose his President's Diktat. That's because it
wasn't really a Diktat. It was done for show.) 

Israel is a U.S. ally in the sense that it will never do anything against
the U.S. directly and has done stuff in the past such as bombing Iraq. The
Mossad works hand in glove with the CIA and seems to do its dirty work
sometimes. (The US elite has been willing to forget events such as the
bombing of the USS Liberty in 1967. This was at the start of the period when
the US/Israel friendship deepened.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
 




Re: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

Sabri,

Put me in the anti-NATO camp and I'd send Milosevich home to Serbia if it
were up to me, since they could sort it out far better.

I'd say using the sort of reasoning which props up US foreign policy and the
use of its deadly power, Milosevic has not only argued his case well but won
it. Milosevic is far from the worst the 20th century gave us and he is on
trial while many others who should be aren't. The irony is, had he been
taken seriously in the first place, things would never have got so far out
of hand.
That's one problem with the 'imperial presidency' approach since the Reagan
era. The US regimes think if they engage people they disagree with or
dislike at a top diplomatic level (and the zealots at the State Department
have a lot to do with this), not only does it raise their opponent, but it
lowers the regal status of the office.

And just look at that part of the world now. No wonder more and more living
in the wreck of what was all of Yugoslavia are getting nostalgic. You never
know what you had til you've lost it. Be careful what you wish for, you
might get it. Etc. Etc.
I'm sure I'll get bombarded with all sorts of statistics and analysis
(probably from analysts at merchant banks, right) about what progress former
Yugoslav countries are making, but I'll believe it when they are ready to
host another Olympics.

Charles Jannuzi