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I'm more afraid of the FBI than of Earth First. No tree-hugger ever denied me my constitutional rights. mbs The largest question of all is Did any of the Earth First work on the north coast save even one tree from the timber industry? tim --- Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The larger question is misconduct by a law enforcement agency that is acquiring increasing powers as we speak, not the possible details of a domestic dispute. We should keep our priorities straight. mbs While clearly the verdict in this trial is appropriate, in that the FBI and the Oakland PD failed to properly investigate the bombing and blamed the victims in a political attack against them, it does not address the larger question: Who *did* bomb Judy Bari? That the FBI botched the investigation does not mean the FBI itself bombed her. I've already been accused of being an FBI flunky for not buying into the Ruppert conspiracy nonsense about 9-11. But I don't buy into the FBI-bombed-Bari story, either. From my perspective, the simplest solution is usually the best, and when a woman gets attacked nine times out of ten it's by a man in her life; in this case, the husband. See: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/05/23/judibari/index_np.html tim --- Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please expand, with links if possible. max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Perelman Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:26732] Re: Judi Bari Wins! This is excellent news, but just think what the trial would have been like if the judge had allowed the COINTELPRO story to be told. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Check out the Chico Examiner listserves at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisorderlyConduct http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChicoLeft Subscribe to the Chico Examiner for only $40 annually or $25 for six months. Mail cash or check payabe to Tim Bousquet to POBox 4627, Chico CA 95927 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com = Check out the Chico Examiner listserves at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisorderlyConduct http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChicoLeft Subscribe to the Chico Examiner for only $40 annually or $25 for six months. Mail cash or check payabe to Tim Bousquet to POBox 4627, Chico CA 95927 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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Tim gives a very hard edge to a serious controversy. I was interviewed by a woman writing a book about the role of the hubby-bomber. He makes it sound as if those who doubt his guilt think that the FBI planted the bomb. I doubt that many people believe that. The only evidence against the FBI is that they were on the site right away. In response to Max's question, the judge refused to let the plaintiffs put on a case based on the past practices of the FBI. The case against the FBI was not so much that they planted the bomb, but that once they accused Bari and Cherney, they began to use their guilt as an excuse to start going after people associated with the environmental movement. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How long was 'right away'? suspiciously, max Tim gives a very hard edge to a serious controversy. I was interviewed by a woman writing a book about the role of the hubby-bomber. He makes it sound as if those who doubt his guilt think that the FBI planted the bomb. I doubt that many people believe that. The only evidence against the FBI is that they were on the site right away.
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Title: RE: [PEN-L:26750] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Judi Bari Wins! Michael Perelman writes: Tim gives a very hard edge to a serious controversy. I was interviewed by a woman writing a book about the role of the hubby-bomber. He makes it sound as if those who doubt his guilt think that the FBI planted the bomb. I doubt that many people believe that. The only evidence against the FBI is that they were on the site right away. couldn't the bombing have been by someone from the timber industry, while the FBI had such a good response time because they were surveilling the victims? Or maybe the FBI was happy to ignore the fact that some timber industry goon was bombing an official enemy? (It's like the Fibbies who infiltrated the KKK only to participate in its activities.) Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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That was my intuition. On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:50:41AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: Michael Perelman writes: Tim gives a very hard edge to a serious controversy. I was interviewed by a woman writing a book about the role of the hubby-bomber. He makes it sound as if those who doubt his guilt think that the FBI planted the bomb. I doubt that many people believe that. The only evidence against the FBI is that they were on the site right away. couldn't the bombing have been by someone from the timber industry, while the FBI had such a good response time because they were surveilling the victims? Or maybe the FBI was happy to ignore the fact that some timber industry goon was bombing an official enemy? (It's like the Fibbies who infiltrated the KKK only to participate in its activities.) Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think that it was 5 minutes or so. On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:47:08PM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: How long was 'right away'? suspiciously, max Tim gives a very hard edge to a serious controversy. I was interviewed by a woman writing a book about the role of the hubby-bomber. He makes it sound as if those who doubt his guilt think that the FBI planted the bomb. I doubt that many people believe that. The only evidence against the FBI is that they were on the site right away. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I guess they could have been following them. If not, it strikes me as pretty good evidence. mbs I think that it was 5 minutes or so. On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:47:08PM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: How long was 'right away'? suspiciously, max The only evidence against the FBI is that they were on the site right away.
