Re: Re: Racism and Ecology.

2000-06-29 Thread Carrol Cox



Louis Proyect wrote:

> Carrol:
> > in astronomy or esp
>
> I don't know. That astronomy is pretty fishy stuff. The astronomy

Got me! :-)

Carrol




Racism and Ecology. (fwd)

2000-06-28 Thread md7148



>Not an appropriate comparison. Consider rather the way in which >Broca
the founder of neurology wasted so much of his life and twisted >his own
scientific discoveries by his attempts to prove that women's >brains
weighed less than men's brains. 

>Carrol

We don't even need to turn to Broca. Richard Dawkins, the great
scientific evolutionist of the year 2000, dedicated so much of his
time to proving in _Selfish Gene_ that it is a survival strategy for men
to be polygamous while it is biologically necessary for women to remain
monogamous. Scientific sexism still sleeps with us.


Mine




Racism and Ecology.

2000-06-28 Thread Carrol Cox



Mark Jones wrote:

>
> I think you are missing the point rather. Let me put it this way: did
> Newton's theories about alchemy disqualify him as a scientist who discovered
> the laws of gravity?

Not an appropriate comparison. Consider rather the way in which
Broca the founder of neurology wasted so much of his life and twisted
his own scientific discoveries by his attempts to prove that women's
brains weighed less than men's brains. An ecological theorist might
believe in astronomy or esp and still perform trustworthy work in
ecology. But for an ecologist to mess around with population theory
as apparently Albert Bartlett did seriously undermines his credibility
-- and since arithmetic is empty or a lie without out a trustworthy
selection of data *and* a trustworthy selection of the right
arithmetic to apply -- I think you ought to look for other sources
than Bartlett.

Incidentally, there will be no socialist revolution in the United States
until 10s of millions of non-whites find reason to trust whites. So
messing around with racist figures is again to shoot oneself in the
foot politically. Politically racism is more of a threat to human
survival than any global warming could be -- since racism is an
impenetrable barrier to actually doing anything about global
warming.

Carrol




Re: Racism and Ecology.

2000-06-28 Thread Louis Proyect

Carrol:
>brains weighed less than men's brains. An ecological theorist might
>believe in astronomy or esp and still perform trustworthy work in
>ecology. 

I don't know. That astronomy is pretty fishy stuff. The astronomy
department at Columbia University is funded--as I understand it--by Shirley
McClaine. Just to show you how unscientific it is, I am an Aquarius but my
horoscope tells me that I am compatible with a sagittarius. All the
Sagittarius women I've ever been with have given me grief. Come to think of
it, all women give me grief...

Louis Proyect
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