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on 1/27/02 07:13 AM, Devine, James at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Michael Perelman writes:>what is an anarcho-leninist?< > > I wrote: >The old FAI in Spain (which stands for the "Federacion > Anaquista Iberiana" or something like that)was conspiratorial in its > organization and so some have likened it to "leninism." Bukharian was also > known for trying to organize conspiracies.< > > ERROR: It's Bakunin, not "Bukharian." Also, it's "Iberica" not > "Iberiana," so that the FAI was (and may still be) the Federacion > Anarquista Iberica. -- Jim Devine. MIYACHI TATSUO MIYACHI TATSUO Psychiatric Deparment Komaki municipal hospital Komaki city AICHI Pref JAPAN Lenin's party before revolution was very different from Stalin's party structure,Lenin did not place local committee, and allowed end party member to direct discussion. Secondly, Lenin's party member was required persistent activity in only one without Central committee order, such as Al-Qaeda organization. In other word, Lenin's party was net-working type. But after revolution, Lenin must have took over political power, In order to continue to concentrate political power against bourgeois party, he must have concentrated political power to Central Committee. He built political revolution, not social revolution. To success political revolution, depriving capital was needed but he failed to abolish money. In other words, civil society funded upon social interaction through money remained. So he exploit and massacre peasant who lived without money in communal society. He must have not stopped NEP which contributed to grow and socialize peasant. Distinction between political revolution and social revolution was clear in Marx. Let cite young Marx's writing. I cite Marx's early work. For Marx, critique of civil society was pivotal, because in civil society, Subject is side with Sachen( commodity,money, capital) and side against people. he wanted to abolish this reversed world, and create "social humanhood". Under historical process, "Social revolution with social soul" is not yet built, instead, "social revolution with political soul" emerged in various situation. For example, Lenin gained firstly "political power" and abolished capital but failed to abolish money. In order to abolish money, mature civil society is needed. In Russia, there was only poor peasants, who didn't adequate exchange means. But Lenin exploit peasants without benefit. As the result party bureaucrat command distribution system built, which Stalin enforced. In contrary, in China " Cultural Revolution" or Cambodia, " Commune society without exchange means" ware tried to build. In these situation, great massacre happened. Because Mao or Pol Pot tried immediately to build " Commune" without adequate property, and thought bureaucrat was not needed though adequate Civil Service mechanism was needed. Now we live in international credit capitalism which is higher stage than Hilferding's " financial capital". In " financial capital" Hilferdig described financial capital within one or other nation-state. And financial capital appeared as integrator of real capitals. So severe competition occured between nation-state which led to world wars. In current credit system, capital flow is beyond border of nation-state, and organize international mechanism such as world bank, OECD, WHO, etc, and these political systems trade off each other, so nation-state competition decrease or become meaningless. In according to these tendency, workers, peasant, feminist, ecologist, etc. resist or protest, globally and further try to create "local commune" using such as LETS as exchange means. It means under historical reformist movement new possibility emerges. Reformist leaders don't recognize its own historical fruit, but in reality reformist movements results in possible new community . In other words we already can gain "social revolution with social soul" Ongoing global social movements prove it. Below is Marx's writing in 1844 Critical Notes on the Article "The King of Prussia and Social Reform. By a Prussian" [1] "The state will never discover the source of social evils in the "state and the organization of society", as the Prussian expects of his King. Wherever there are political parties each party will attribute every defect of society to the fact that its rival is at the helm of the state instead of itself. Even the radical and revolutionary politicians look for the causes of evil not in the nature of the state but in a specific form of the state which they would like to replace with another form of the state. >From a political point of view, the state and the organization of society are not two different things. The state is the organization of society. In so far as the state acknowledges the existence of social grievances, it locates their origins either in the laws of nature over which no human agency has control, or in private life, which is independent of the state, or else in malfunction
Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES
Michael Perelman writes:>what is an anarcho-leninist?< I wrote: >The old FAI in Spain (which stands for the "Federacion Anaquista Iberiana" or something like that)was conspiratorial in its organization and so some have likened it to "leninism." Bukharian was also known for trying to organize conspiracies.< ERROR: It's Bakunin, not "Bukharian." Also, it's "Iberica" not "Iberiana," so that the FAI was (and may still be) the Federacion Anarquista Iberica. -- Jim Devine.
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Michael Perelman writes:>what is an anarcho-leninist?< The old FAI in Spain (which stands for the "Federacion Anaquista Iberiana" or something like that)was conspiratorial in its organization and so some have likened it to "leninism." Bukharian was also known for trying to organize conspiracies. Jim Devine
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that's why I had the :-) at the end...Sorry if it's misunderstood Ian - Original Message - From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PEN-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: [PEN-L:21930] Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES That is not true Ian, I am still working on the definition. I will let both of you know when I am done! Best Sabri Whoever you want them to be :-) Ian - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [PEN-L:21926] Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES what is an anarcho-leninist?
Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES
That is not true Ian, I am still working on the definition. I will let both of you know when I am done! Best Sabri Whoever you want them to be :-) Ian - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [PEN-L:21926] Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES what is an anarcho-leninist?
Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES
Whoever you want them to be :-) Ian - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [PEN-L:21926] Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES what is an anarcho-leninist? On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:53:30PM -0800, Sabri Oncu wrote: > Friends, > > This is a call some anarchist comrades sent to the Mayday2k list. > Being the only anarcho-leninist (whatever this means) I know of, > I thought this would be of interest to you. > > Best, > Sabri > > + > > Call to action: CACEROLAZO GLOBAL > > INTERNATIONAL CALL TO ACTION > > C A C E R O L A Z O G L O B A L > > IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE RESISTANCE OF THE ARGENTINE PEOPLE AGAINST > THE > EXPLOITERS (Transnationals, Banks, Corrupt Government Thieves), > meeting at > the World Economic Forum/WEF (Davos) in New York. > > SATURDAY/SUNDAY FEBRUARY 2/3, 2002 - Concrete place, time and > format of the > action to be decided in each city. > > NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS OF THE WORLD: Lets make our Caceroles > sound together! > All of the worlds Caceroles sounding off at the same time in a > HUGE > CACEROLAZO GLOBAL. > > AS WE SHOUT TOGETHER WITH THE PEOPLE OF ARGENTINA IN REBELLION: > "DOWN WITH > THEM ALL; NOT EVEN ONE WILL REMAIN! > > WHAT IS A CACEROLAZO? > > When hundreds, thousands or hundreds of thousands of people get > together > and bang on their caceroles (pots and pans) as loudly as humanly > possible, > moving forward or standing still, in collective protest. The > Cacerolazo has > become the symbol of Argentine popular rebellion against the > neoliberal > order, and is fast becoming associated with the global resistance > to > transnational capitalism. > > Why ARGENTINA? > > Argentina is not a poor country, but rather a country that has > been > destroyed. It is the latest example that transnational capitalism > works like > a neutron bomb: destroying all living things. > > A large part of the population of Argentina, once the > "breadbasket of the > world" with tremendous natural resources - the hope and destiny > of many > millions of poor immigrants from around the world- is now going > hungry. > Fifteen of the 36 million Argentines are living below the poverty > line. Five > million live in extreme poverty. > > ARGENTINA IS A GLOBAL MIRROR OF NEOLIBERAL CAPITALISM. ARGENTINA > IS YOUR > FUTURE. ARGENTINA IS A GLOBAL SCENARIO. > > The current crisis in Argentina, the "top student" of the IMF and > the > WASHINGTON CONSENSUS, is the culmination of 25 years of the > neoliberal > economic model imposed through significant bloodshed by the > military > dictatorship in Argentina (1976-1983; 30,000 dissappeared, > hundreds of > millions tortured, jailed and exiled), which was supported by the > IMF and the > government of the United States. > > But Argentina has also been during the past few years, and > especially since > the popular rebellion on December 19 and 20, 2001 (that forced > the > pseudodemocratic government of De la Rua to resign), an example > of a society, > a people, and a citizenry that said ENOUGH!: No more victims! The > cacerolazos > have produced an irreversible and irreperable rupture in the > established > order. > > Local, self-generated calls to action are coming from the > grassroots > through neighborhood assemblies, which are totally self-managed, > horizontal > and democratic. A profound transformation of the political > culture is rapidly > emerging among wide sectors of the population. > > Many solidarity actions with the Argentine people have been > carried out or > are about to be carried out in diverse cities throughout the > world, such as > Barcelona, Bilbao, Paris, Toronto, Montreal, Oviedo, Berlin, > Madrid, London, > Porto Alegre and New York. > > Why February 2/3, 2002? > > There will be a huge demonstration and cacerolazo in New York > City on > Saturday, February 2 against the World Economic Forum (which used > to take > place in Davos, bringing lobbies, transnationals and banks > together with > government leaders), along with demonstrations and cacerolazos on > the same > day in cities throughout the world, particularly in Canada, > Europe (above all > in Spain) and Latin America (especially the city of Porto Alegre, > Brazil, > where the World Social Forum will be meeting at the same time, > and in Buenos > Aires). > > WHY A CACEROLAZO? > > The "Cacerolazo"is globalizing as a form of protest; as a method > it has many > advantages: > > It is absolutel
Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES
what is an anarcho-leninist? On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:53:30PM -0800, Sabri Oncu wrote: > Friends, > > This is a call some anarchist comrades sent to the Mayday2k list. > Being the only anarcho-leninist (whatever this means) I know of, > I thought this would be of interest to you. > > Best, > Sabri > > + > > Call to action: CACEROLAZO GLOBAL > > INTERNATIONAL CALL TO ACTION > > C A C E R O L A Z O G L O B A L > > IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE RESISTANCE OF THE ARGENTINE PEOPLE AGAINST > THE > EXPLOITERS (Transnationals, Banks, Corrupt Government Thieves), > meeting at > the World Economic Forum/WEF (Davos) in New York. > > SATURDAY/SUNDAY FEBRUARY 2/3, 2002 - Concrete place, time and > format of the > action to be decided in each city. > > NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS OF THE WORLD: Lets make our Caceroles > sound together! > All of the worlds Caceroles sounding off at the same time in a > HUGE > CACEROLAZO GLOBAL. > > AS WE SHOUT TOGETHER WITH THE PEOPLE OF ARGENTINA IN REBELLION: > "DOWN WITH > THEM ALL; NOT EVEN ONE WILL REMAIN! > > WHAT IS A CACEROLAZO? > > When hundreds, thousands or hundreds of thousands of people get > together > and bang on their caceroles (pots and pans) as loudly as humanly > possible, > moving forward or standing still, in collective protest. The > Cacerolazo has > become the symbol of Argentine popular rebellion against the > neoliberal > order, and is fast becoming associated with the global resistance > to > transnational capitalism. > > Why ARGENTINA? > > Argentina is not a poor country, but rather a country that has > been > destroyed. It is the latest example that transnational capitalism > works like > a neutron bomb: destroying all living things. > > A large part of the population of Argentina, once the > "breadbasket of the > world" with tremendous natural resources - the hope and destiny > of many > millions of poor immigrants from around the world- is now going > hungry. > Fifteen of the 36 million Argentines are living below the poverty > line. Five > million live in extreme poverty. > > ARGENTINA IS A GLOBAL MIRROR OF NEOLIBERAL CAPITALISM. ARGENTINA > IS YOUR > FUTURE. ARGENTINA IS A GLOBAL SCENARIO. > > The current crisis in Argentina, the "top student" of the IMF and > the > WASHINGTON CONSENSUS, is the culmination of 25 years of the > neoliberal > economic model imposed through significant bloodshed by the > military > dictatorship in Argentina (1976-1983; 30,000 dissappeared, > hundreds of > millions tortured, jailed and exiled), which was supported by the > IMF and the > government of the United States. > > But Argentina has also been during the past few years, and > especially since > the popular rebellion on December 19 and 20, 2001 (that forced > the > pseudodemocratic government of De la Rua to resign), an example > of a society, > a people, and a citizenry that said ENOUGH!: No more victims! The > cacerolazos > have produced an irreversible and irreperable rupture in the > established > order. > > Local, self-generated calls to action are coming from the > grassroots > through neighborhood assemblies, which are totally self-managed, > horizontal > and democratic. A profound transformation of the political > culture is rapidly > emerging among wide sectors of the population. > > Many solidarity actions with the Argentine people have been > carried out or > are about to be carried out in diverse cities throughout the > world, such as > Barcelona, Bilbao, Paris, Toronto, Montreal, Oviedo, Berlin, > Madrid, London, > Porto Alegre and New York. > > Why February 2/3, 2002? > > There will be a huge demonstration and cacerolazo in New York > City on > Saturday, February 2 against the World Economic Forum (which used > to take > place in Davos, bringing lobbies, transnationals and banks > together with > government leaders), along with demonstrations and cacerolazos on > the same > day in cities throughout the world, particularly in Canada, > Europe (above all > in Spain) and Latin America (especially the city of Porto Alegre, > Brazil, > where the World Social Forum will be meeting at the same time, > and in Buenos > Aires). > > WHY A CACEROLAZO? > > The "Cacerolazo"is globalizing as a form of protest; as a method > it has many > advantages: > > It is absolutely non-violent. > > It is loud and clearly visible. > > It is an extremely simple and grassroots method; it does not > require > expensive technology, training or special abilities. THE ENTIRE > FAMILY can > participate and any community or city can organize one. > > It is festive, carnavalesque and it symbolizes the social > response to the > big winners in the Argentine Crisis and the global neoliberal > order more > generally. > > PROPOSAL for ACTION in EACH LOCALE: > > 1) Organize a CACEROLAZO shaming those who are responsible for > the crisis. > > 2) Write a text to denounce the situation. > > 3) Spread the word throught the mass and alternative media. > > 4) Co
