Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-18 Thread boddhisatva






Dennis,



Can *you* borrow money at 2 percent interest? 4 percent?  That
money is so cheap it's almost free.  Besides, what business does a
democratic government have handing over a lot of cash to corporate
fat-cats?  Do you think the managements of Mitsubushi and Sony are
socialists or something? If they are, why don't they give their companies
to the workers and get the hell out of the way?  These are the people,
after all, who have screwed up the Japanese economy.





peace








Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-17 Thread Dennis R Redmond

On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, boddhisatva wrote:

> The
> capitalists in Japan wouldn't know what to do with more money. They
> already have the cheapest money in the industrialized world.  The very
> idea of giving them more money is absurd. 

Gee, really? I've never had any problem whatsoever spending money, so why
should Mitsubishi and Sony be any different? 

-- Dennis






Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-17 Thread boddhisatva





To whom,




Dennis has really tipped his hand with this statement: "All this
talk of how Japan is going to go bankrupt tomorrow is so much hooey --
what's happening is that some deeply unsettling fears about the length and
tenure of the Wall Street bubble are being projected, by the usual punters
and earnings-obsessed analysts, onto an immensely powerful Japanese
economy all but drained of speculative excess and about to declare its
fiscal and political autonomy from the USA."  Meanwhile Japanese debt from
bankruptcies is at a fifty year high.  The problem with the Keynesian
approach is that, unfortunately, somebody has to *own* it and that
somebody is *NOT* the proletariat.  Keynesianism is two things: welfare
for people (some) and pork-barrel gifts to capitalists (lots).  The
capitalists in Japan wouldn't know what to do with more money. They
already have the cheapest money in the industrialized world.  The very
idea of giving them more money is absurd.  As for the Japanese people, if
the government wants to fork over all those bonds to regular folks, I'm
all for it.  Two words: Not likely.



Capitalism has to be disciplined to counter its greed and
complacency because it is a bad system.  The Japanese are coddling a bad
system and it is acting badly. Either they will have to discipline it or
get rid of it.  





peace







Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-17 Thread Jay Hecht

In a message dated 98-04-17 01:36:03 EDT, you write:

<< Comptroller of the
 Currency >>

If its that guy Lugwig, there are a lot of insurance agents who HATES what
he's doing to  financial services (of course, all those Travelers' guys have
just been given a new script by that mis-named communist, oops, I mean kist,
"John Reed" of Citigroup

Jason





Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-17 Thread Doug Henwood

Dennis R Redmond wrote:

>> Tom Schlesinger - who's putting Fed transcripts up on the Financial
>> Markets Center website
>
>What's the URL on this? I spidered for this and came up empty.

It's not up yet; lots of text to input.

When I talked to Tom yesterday, he pointed out how boring most of the
transcripts are - in contrast, say, to the transcripts of LBJ's cabinet
meetings. Nothing, in other words, like this morsel reported in the NY
Times Book Review the other day (reminding us how apt his surname was):

"Johnson found it difficult to sustain his rationality in dealing with
war critics. During a private conversation with some reporters who
pressed him to explain why we were in Vietnam, Johnson lost his
patience. According to Arthur Goldberg, L.B.J. unzipped his fly, drew
out his substantial organ and declared, 'This is why!'"

Doug









Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-17 Thread Doug Henwood

Dennis R Redmond wrote:

>If Japan really did
>what Wall Street says, namely raised interest rates and cut domestic
>spending, you'd see a global credit and GDP holocaust which would make
>the breakup of the Soviet economy look like a success story.

No, Wall Street doesn't want that. Wall Street wants Japan to do some kind
of Keynesian stimulus - big tax cuts preferably. Yeah, sure they'd save a
lot of it, but they'd probably spend more of it than they save. Summers and
Rubin would never sound off about a Japanese stimulus program if Wall
Street didn't approve.

Speaking of the adminstration & Wall Street, Tom Schlesinger - who's
putting Fed transcripts up on the Financial Markets Center website soon! -
told me today that the Treasury's top bank regulator, Comptroller of the
Currency whathisname, has been the most industry-friendly in at least 30
years.

Doug







Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-17 Thread Dennis R Redmond

On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Doug Henwood wrote concerning Japanese austerity:

> No, Wall Street doesn't want that. Wall Street wants Japan to do some kind
> of Keynesian stimulus - big tax cuts preferably. Yeah, sure they'd save a
> lot of it, but they'd probably spend more of it than they save. Summers and
> Rubin would never sound off about a Japanese stimulus program if Wall
> Street didn't approve.

Rubin actually said this? Oh, yeah, the G-7 thing, I'd forgotten about
that... the idea of Wall Street talking up other people's deficit spending
is kind of amazing, though consistent with the logic of the whole Asian
bailout, which was mostly done with Japanese/European money. 
This probably explains why the Nikkei Weekly, putative voice of
Japan's deeply wounded but ever hopeful proto-rentier class, has been
sounding off for awhile now about the necessity for cutting taxes on the
rich. 

> Tom Schlesinger - who's putting Fed transcripts up on the Financial
> Markets Center website

What's the URL on this? I spidered for this and came up empty.

-- Dennis









Re: Dollars Break, the Yen Bends

1998-04-16 Thread James Devine

Dennis writes: >If Japan really did what Wall Street says, namely raised
interest rates and cut domestic spending, you'd see a global credit and GDP
holocaust which would make the breakup of the Soviet economy look like a
success story.<

I thought that what Wall Street was pushing was the opening up of financial
markets to Wall Street, not "raised interest rates and cut domestic
spending." In fact, aren't the muck-a-mucks encouraging fiscal expansion by
the Japanese? 

Please correct me if I'm wrong or give me more information.

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED] &
http://clawww.lmu.edu/1997F/ECON/jdevine.html
"The only cause of depression is prosperity." -- Clement Juglar.