Re: Re: Re: Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?

2002-02-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Title: Re: [PEN-L:23072] Re: Re: Re: Mommy, what's a
corporat



Btw, the last time I talked to Richard, he suggested the following
piece ought to be looked at by all troublemakers who can get their
hands on it:

ARTICLE
The Thirteenth Amendment Versus the Commerce Clause: Labor and the
Shaping of American Constitutional Law, 1921-1957
 James Gray Pope
Vol. 102 · January 2002 · No. 1
http://www.columbialawreview.org/

thanks, Ian, this seems to be a very interesting analysis
indeed.

ARTICLE 102 Colum.
L. Rev. 1 (2002)
The Thirteenth Amendment Versus the Commerce Clause: Labor and the
Shaping of American Constitutional Law, 1921-1957

James Gray Pope

During the twentieth century, Congress's power to regulate commerce
grew sensationally while its human rights powers atrophied. The
author traces this phenomenon back to the choice, made by lawyers and
politicians in the early 1930s, to base labor rights statutes like
the Wagner Act on the Commerce Clause instead of the Thirteenth
Amendment. Unions and workers argued that the rights to organize and
strike made the difference between freedom and involuntary servitude.
But a bevy of progressive lawyers who styled themselves "friends of
labor" undermined labor's Thirteenth Amendment theory. The author
argues that this clash reflected not merely tactical differences
among allies, but fundamentally conflicting constitutional goals. He
contends that the Supreme Court upheld the Wagner Act not because of
the lawyers' Commerce Clause arguments, but because workers staged
a series of sit-down strikes that confronted the swing justices with
a choice between industrial peace or war. Afterward, unions and
workers interpreted the Wagner Act decisions as victories for labor
freedom, but the Act's Commerce Clause foundation pointed in a
different direction-one leading to fateful distortions in the
jurisprudence of congressional powers.

We apologize, but the full text PDF of this article is currently
unavailable.



Re: Re: Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?

2002-02-22 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message -
From: "Eugene Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:55 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:23068] Re: Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?


> The POCLAD movement is slowly building, based on the long-term
strategy of
> Richard Grossman.
>
> To me it is the most appealing campaign for democracy within
capitalism.
> Everything else, including most of what I do, isn't so promising.


Btw, the last time I talked to Richard, he suggested the following
piece ought to be looked at by all troublemakers who can get their
hands on it:

ARTICLE
The Thirteenth Amendment Versus the Commerce Clause: Labor and the
Shaping of American Constitutional Law, 1921-1957
 James Gray Pope
Vol. 102 · January 2002 · No. 1
http://www.columbialawreview.org/




Re: Re: Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?

2002-02-22 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message -
From: "Eugene Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:55 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:23068] Re: Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?


> The POCLAD movement is slowly building, based on the long-term
strategy of
> Richard Grossman.
>
> To me it is the most appealing campaign for democracy within
capitalism.
> Everything else, including most of what I do, isn't so promising.
>
> The POCLAD book which Michael mentions is DEFYING CORPORATIONS,
DEFINING
> DEMOCRACY is interesting.  Subtitled " A Book of History & Strategy"
it is a
> book of readings, with the usual strengths and weaknesses of that.
>
> For California Pen-Lers, Grossman will be in California in early
March.
>
> Gene Coyle
>

=
Richard is one of the few people in the world who owns the entire
collection of Morris Cohen's legal writings as well as lots of stuff
by other legal realists. He's also a big fan of Morton Horwitz'
writings.

I also think there's not much in, say, David Schweickart's 'Against
Capitalism' that he'd disagree with in terms of the relations between
markets and governance issues. Other members of POCLAD like the appeal
of Mondragon -with it's strengths, acknowledging the weaknesses- but
their strategy is to first open a public discussion regarding the
legal history of US capitalism so as to respect limited government
with greater civic participation in economic affairs in order to
attenuate class conflict. They respect economies of scale and aren't
of afraid of bigness as long as it doesn't lead to institutional
rigidity and unaccountability. My guess is that if the discussion in
the US reached a level that Richard and the others hope for, the
signifiers of 'capitalism' and 'private property' would mutate into
something a bit more complex. They'll tell you we have to come up with
the answers --the cookbooks if you will-- together.

Ian




Re: Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?

2002-02-22 Thread Eugene Coyle

The POCLAD movement is slowly building, based on the long-term strategy of
Richard Grossman.

To me it is the most appealing campaign for democracy within capitalism.
Everything else, including most of what I do, isn't so promising.

The POCLAD book which Michael mentions is DEFYING CORPORATIONS, DEFINING
DEMOCRACY is interesting.  Subtitled " A Book of History & Strategy" it is a
book of readings, with the usual strengths and weaknesses of that.

For California Pen-Lers, Grossman will be in California in early March.

Gene Coyle



Michael Perelman wrote:

> The woman who did the index for my book was a friend of the editor of the
> Poclad book.  She put us in touch for a bit.
> --
> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
>
> Tel. 530-898-5321
> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Mommy, what's a corporation?

2002-02-21 Thread Michael Perelman

The woman who did the index for my book was a friend of the editor of the
Poclad book.  She put us in touch for a bit.
-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]