Re: Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-10 Thread bantam

G'day Doug,

> michael perelman wrote:
>
> >Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will probably
> win
> >the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe, for having discovered
>
> >the inverse relation between IQ and penis size.
>
> I know this is a joke, Michael, but the bourgeois science thinks
> Rushton is a fraud and an embarrassment. Before Hitler, racist
> science got plenty of respect, but it doesn't really anymore. The
> Bell Curve, despite its popularity, isn't mainstream science - though
> it might be the hidden underside of liberal bourgeois tolerance (as
> Zizek said of the relations among Laibach, nationalism, and fascism).
> Racism doesn't have much scientific prestige - except maybe in some
> economic models, where the entry of black workers is treated as a
> decline in labor force quality. It's trickier to deal with bourgeois
> ideology than it used to be. And the staff of the IMF is more
> "diverse" than most First World left organizations.

I realise that by the projected Rushton logic I should be endowed with a
short fat one a foot long, but one thing that occurs to even me is that
an IQ test is a cultural product with questionable cross-cultural
applicability (and I'd LOVE to see how one arrives at the average IQ for
Sierra Leone, for that matter).  It also occurs that one criticism that
can still be made of liberal bourgeois scientism (as manifest in
neoliberalism in general and the IMF record in particular) is that it
ethnocentrically universalises the particular with blithe abandon (eg
stuff that has worked for a while in or for the hegemon will work for
the minor dependent economy).  So on that scientism criterion, I think
there's a definitive parallel to be drawn (and, yes, I agree a few
Marxists we both know - elsewhere - falter at that hurdle, too).  I do
reckon you've a point about diversity, even heterodoxy, in today's
establishment,  but aver it might be better made with reference to
Wolfenson's World Bank.  Waddyareckon?

Cheers,
Rob.




Re: Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-09 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

>michael perelman wrote:
>
>>Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will probably win
>>the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe, for having discovered
>>the inverse relation between IQ and penis size.
>
>I know this is a joke, Michael, but the bourgeois science thinks 
>Rushton is a fraud and an embarrassment. Before Hitler, racist 
>science got plenty of respect, but it doesn't really anymore.

Cultural differences are made the explanans but the question of the 
persistence of cultural differences is left unasked, allowing racial 
assumptions to fill in the gap.

Blacks have 1/10th the wealth of whites (defining wealth to include 
stocks, bonds, homes, cars, jewlery, etc; this is not wealth defined 
in Marxian terms).

Why?

At the very least, a racial world view could remain entrenched behind 
the curtain as economists reason from the assumption that those 
individuals who remain miserable proletarians as opposed to joining 
the wealthy have a very steep present time preference, i.e., lack of 
fortitude and foresight to forgo present consumption.

For those who content themselves with the assumption that persistent 
cultural differences explain individual variance in time preference 
and thus the non random distribution of wealth across ethno-racial 
groups, all Rushton does is force them to their own implicit 
conclusion that such persistent cultural difference is most plausibly 
explained by probable heritable group differences. That's exactly 
where D'Souza ended up despite his attempt at a purely cultural 
theory of racial inequality.

I suggest that the hostile reaction to Rushton is merely the return 
of the repressed.

Rakesh




Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-09 Thread Doug Henwood

michael perelman wrote:

>Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will probably win
>the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe, for having discovered
>the inverse relation between IQ and penis size.

I know this is a joke, Michael, but the bourgeois science thinks 
Rushton is a fraud and an embarrassment. Before Hitler, racist 
science got plenty of respect, but it doesn't really anymore. The 
Bell Curve, despite its popularity, isn't mainstream science - though 
it might be the hidden underside of liberal bourgeois tolerance (as 
Zizek said of the relations among Laibach, nationalism, and fascism). 
Racism doesn't have much scientific prestige - except maybe in some 
economic models, where the entry of black workers is treated as a 
decline in labor force quality. It's trickier to deal with bourgeois 
ideology than it used to be. And the staff of the IMF is more 
"diverse" than most First World left organizations.

Doug




RE: Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

> > Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will
> > probably win the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe,
> > for having discovered the inverse relation between IQ and
> > penis size.

this explains why women are so smart.
JD




Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-08 Thread Eugene Coyle

Sabri, thanks for making me laugh out loud!

Gene Coyle

Sabri Oncu wrote:

> Michael writes:
>
> > Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will
> > probably win the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe,
> > for having discovered the inverse relation between IQ and
> > penis size.
>
> Hey,
>
> I always wondered why my IQ is so low. Now I know!..
>
> Sabri