Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Bush war

2001-02-18 Thread Jim Devine

Justin wrote:
Right, a routine bombing, just what one normally does.

so when the Unabomber sent mail-bombs, these could also be interpreted as 
"routine"? (BTW, I'm being ironic, too.)

No reason, maybe "self defense"--we had to bomb them because we are over 
there in their country defending ourselves of course. I presume this means 
that if Saddam Hussein blows up NORAD in retaliation, or on a  routine 
bombing mission, that he can expect that we will let it pass as 
self-defense; I mean, why else would he be bombing targets in Wyomong.

FWIW, Cheyenne Mountain is in Colorado.

Oh, foolsih me, I forgot, he's the bad guy, we're the good guys. How could 
that have slipped my mind.

This is from the guy who accused Clinton  Gore of unnecessary imperial 
adventures. I suppose I can't be surprised, but I sort of did have hopes 
that he meant that part of it.

a hopefully more substantive comment: In my experience, even though the 
name of the occupant of the White House changes, the changes in US foreign 
policy have been typically very trivial. The political forces pressuring 
the US on these issues stay the same. The obvious case was Nixon's 
about-face on China, but he of course was one of the political forces 
against a US opening to China.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Bush war

2001-02-18 Thread Michael Pugliese

Cf. the books by Jim Mann (of the L.A. Times) book and Patrick Tyler of the
Washington Post (or is it the NYT?) on China policy.
Michael Pugliese

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Date: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:8266] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Bush war


Justin wrote:
Right, a routine bombing, just what one normally does.

so when the Unabomber sent mail-bombs, these could also be interpreted as
"routine"? (BTW, I'm being ironic, too.)

No reason, maybe "self defense"--we had to bomb them because we are over
there in their country defending ourselves of course. I presume this means
that if Saddam Hussein blows up NORAD in retaliation, or on a  routine
bombing mission, that he can expect that we will let it pass as
self-defense; I mean, why else would he be bombing targets in Wyomong.

FWIW, Cheyenne Mountain is in Colorado.

Oh, foolsih me, I forgot, he's the bad guy, we're the good guys. How could
that have slipped my mind.

This is from the guy who accused Clinton  Gore of unnecessary imperial
adventures. I suppose I can't be surprised, but I sort of did have hopes
that he meant that part of it.

a hopefully more substantive comment: In my experience, even though the
name of the occupant of the White House changes, the changes in US foreign
policy have been typically very trivial. The political forces pressuring
the US on these issues stay the same. The obvious case was Nixon's
about-face on China, but he of course was one of the political forces
against a US opening to China.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine





Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Bush war

2001-02-18 Thread Justin Schwartz


So what I am I thinking of that is is Wyoming, if anything?

I presume
this means
that if Saddam Hussein blows up NORAD in retaliation, or on a  routine
bombing mission, that he can expect that we will let it pass as
self-defense; I mean, why else would he be bombing targets in Wyomong.

FWIW, Cheyenne Mountain is in Colorado.



--jks
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